Suggestion of Non-Profitable MO

[vince123123]

It is.

Flying aeroplane issues have been solved by taking money before ordering.

Warranty issues are solved by the end user going directly to the manufacturer and not the MO organiser.

There isn't much trouble in consolidating orders - many have already done it before.

As for savings of S$22, perhaps the better measure is how much percentage savings you can get.

catch,
let's take the example of savings $22.

for the trouble of consolidating orders, the risks of people 'flying aeroplanes', the waiting/lead time, the warranty issues(if any)...

do you think it's still worth it?

:dunno:

anyway, i'm off topic.the issue here is not what i make my point about.
apologies.

 

[catchlights]

It is.

Flying aeroplane issues have been solved by taking money before ordering.

Warranty issues are solved by the end user going directly to the manufacturer and not the MO organiser.

There isn't much trouble in consolidating orders - many have already done it before.

As for savings of S$22, perhaps the better measure is how much percentage savings you can get.

can't imagine jeanie will want to buy cheap stuffs.... :bsmilie:

maybe one day will see jeanie making a MO.....

"I got Lobang of Benz 600, anyone interested? can do a MO........"

 

[nightwolf75]

I think for all MO (Non Profit) organisers, they should submit a copy of their NRIC (front and back) & contact number (HP) to the Mods or admin for vetting. Only after vetting will they be registered as MO organisers.

As for transparency, once MO organiser decides to do a MO or spree for an item, he should indicate the overseas supplier he is getting the item from (e.g. amazon.com), price listed on the website (e.g. USD xx), estimated currency conversion rate (normally interbank rate +2%) & estimated shipping cost. For low cost items, he should indicate how many orders or how much orders will be accepted before MO/Spree is closed. For high cost items, he should indicate whether GST will be payable.

As for deposits, usually full deposit is required. This is to protect the spree organiser in case participants in the spree decide to pull out after the order is processed.

the Admin team cannot act as a policeman for CS, not matter wat the good intentions. CS policy has always been one of buyer-beware.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8466

besides, as a matter of practicalities, we dun have the manpower to vet. also, how are we going to get potential Mass Sellers to voluntarily submit their NRIC for vetting, considering dat we have a number of people (albeit small numbers) who try to skirt the current system and then try to claim ignorance?

we need a more viable system. i am all for non-profit MO/MS if we all can think of a viable way to make sure of (a) credible sellers and buyers, and (b) really not for profit at all.

 

[jeanie]

catch, dun lidat say wor.

i'm affected by the financial crisis ok?but i'm STILL not gonna give up photography.:bsmilie:

anyway, to save the trouble, i seriously think just go ahead and buy whatever you want to buy yourself.
anything wrong, just dump it back to the shop.
for my equipments, i never ever had to go back to manufacturer.
anything that goes wrong, my shop always exchange or replace for me.well, everything is still in warranty window lah...that is.

and usually for MO, say a nikon lens...
exactly HOW much can you save if it's MO?
can someone please enlighten me?

 

[vince123123]

Actually to me, MOs are more of a way to get items which are not sold in Singapore and do not have a local distributor for. All the last MOs I organised were of this category.

Hence, no MO = pay heavy shipping to bring ONE item for yourself.

 

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

catch, dun lidat say wor.

i'm affected by the financial crisis ok?but i'm STILL not gonna give up photography.:bsmilie:

anyway, to save the trouble, i seriously think just go ahead and buy whatever you want to buy yourself.
anything wrong, just dump it back to the shop.
for my equipments, i never ever had to go back to manufacturer.
anything that goes wrong, my shop always exchange or replace for me.well, everything is still in warranty window lah...that is.

and usually for MO, say a nikon lens...
exactly HOW much can you save if it's MO?
can someone please enlighten me?

not as much as your fuel cost lah...

i'd already said, this is for discussing on the MO, not about the MO feasible anot...

 

[liveevil]

Actually, MO is very common in other forums as well. sometime i wonder if the thread starter make a bit of money from doing the MO. But i only buy from MO (both clubsnap and HWZ) only if the price is lower from what i can get locally and from amazon or ebay.

since i'm already saving money from the MO, i dont really care if it's non-profitable.

 

[soeypixels]

lol
the buyer of cos don care if is profit or non profit

the problem is the owner feel is fair to pay for a fee if someone wants to make $ out the the MO.
but is hard to know if is a profit or non profit MO

 

[skyguy]

lol
the buyer of cos don care if is profit or non profit

the problem is the owner feel is fair to pay for a fee if someone wants to make $ out the the MO.
but is hard to know if is a profit or non profit MO

yea... agree with u... its like in the buy/sell tread... people say they are selling 2nd hand but its still possible to earn a profit out of it

 

[slaam]

hmmm why be bothered if the person makes a profit or not if you already made savings?
sounds kinda selfish or nitpicking no?

i would like to ask the same person if they feel unjust when the credit company charges u interest on ur credit card debt when they make $ from the merchant for every purchase already...

middlemen earning $ is ok IMHO

if the middleman make u pay more than what u can get outside, this is OVER PRICING

but then if you didn't check it out then U r UNSAVVY CONSUMER

 

[Excel-glsi]

So wat the outcome? Can do Non-Profitable MO? :dunno:

 

[Yappy]

Usually for Sprees or MOs on other forums, the principle is very simple. All prices are transparent. Spree organiser will order form a single website/retailer and the price is known to everyone participating in the Spree/MO. Currency exchange rate is estimated and final one will be made known to everyone participating by the Spree organiser when the amount is billed to his credit card account. Likewise shipping charges will be made known to everyone through scanning of the shipping invoice.

Thus, in most circumstances, no profit is made by the spree organiser. One may then question why people go through all the trouble if no profit is made. Reason simply is that the spree organiser also needs to order something from the website/retailer and benefit to him/her is the cost savings from the consolidated shipping.

If no profit is made, who should the buyer complaint if he received a defective good? The one in-chrge of the purchase is responsible to do the exchanging for the good?

 

[vince123123]

I will suggest that the buyer take the complaint directly to the manufacturer. The reason why local distirbutors charge more is for such support. And without charging more, the buyers cannot be expecting the non-profit MO-er to do the support.