Newman said:This is a win-win situation for both models and photographers cum studio owners who wish to expand their portfolios.
However, I think if the thread starter had been upfront with the intention of her request, some ugly remarks could have been avoided. If you start a thread without clearly stating your intention and the purpose of the request, it can be misleading for readers and eventually you're going to get remarks such as these. This is a situation which is very common in a forum like Clubsnap.
whiteprecision said:Yes, I do admit my first post wasn't all that clear...
As I'm entirely new to this forum, I am sorry for not providing adequate information that
photographers need...
My apologies...
I will try to be more precise the next time.
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wildstallion said:After reading the posts following on from the last few I do now believe that this could benefit both parties and is not a way to exploit photographers like so many try to do in CS. Next time just be a bit more clearer in your first post and not so rude when questioned. I agree with Newman, lets make CS a more calm and nicer to place to hang around.
blazer_workz said:That's the way for CS..win-win situation for all..
No point arguing; u dun like u ignore, u interested u find out more..
By the way, 1 suggestion to make - is it possible to organise outdoor models shoot at ultra low price, so that newbie like me here who doesn't own a studio to have the opportunity to learn/practice..
Uppzz for u whiteprecision..造福人群:thumbsup:
whiteprecision said:Would you like to quote an amount? Email me at whiteprecision@gmail.com
I'll see if the models wanna do...
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vbs1979 said:that shld be the way! The forum is a channel for sharing and exchanging.
Do count me in if you are organising a newbie outdoor shoot. I am still a newbie
wildstallion said:Ok, i just have one point, if someone already owns their own studio, dont you think they dont need to expand their portfolio anymore by offering free work?
Again, CS is a fishing site for free photographers, its such a shame :cry: :thumbsd:
lobinhoot said:Nailing it right on the spot, Will... If the guys already owns the studio, I'm sure he will have pple paying to use his studio for shoots....
Sighz....:cry: Sadzz....
Well said....yqt said:There seems to be some misconception about photographer/studio owners. Below are some info from a photographer/studio owner for you guys to consider.
1) Owning a studio do not mean I will have people renting my studio for shoot everyday. ( maybe 10% of all studios in SG do studio rental. The rest either do not rent or only to close friends or associates )
2) Even if I do have people renting my studio every day, it does not make any diff. to my own portfolio.
3) Do you think it is professional for me to join in the shoot? I think not.
4) Even if I know the one who rents the studio from me, and is invited to join the shoot, do you think I'll have a major say as to the concept, lighting, set up and direction of the shoot? He's the one paying, it is his shoot not mine.
5) If he wants me to do 4), than it is not studio rental but an org. shoot. And how many photographers/studio owners org. shoot?
5) Since I did not come up with the concept, lighting, set up and direction, can I say that the images are my work/portfolio? No, No way. At most, the session will just be a practice session for me or just a fun shoot, not something which I can claim to be my portfolio. ( In fact, in the few instance where I was in a group shoot, either at my studio of at the photo club's studio, I was helping them with the lighting, set up and giving directions to the models. Hack, I didn't even touch my CF card.)
6) Since I can't claim the work to be my own. Don't you think I need to do some shots to call my own for my portfolio?
7) I can only claim credit for a fashion shoot because I'm part of the creative team that produced the image. But I'm only PART of the creative process.
8) If I want to shoot something diff. from what I usually do, I'll need to shoot outside of a commercial shoot. In other words, look for a model/talent and do my own stuff.
9) The best way to achieve 8) is to either book a model/talent, look for friends or TFCD
10) TFCD is the most cost effective way for a photographer and the models to get to do something that they both want without the constrain of a client's interest and at the lowest cost possible.
There is no free lunch in this world. Everyone should get something out of the effort they put in.
When I do a commercial shoot, my payment is money.
When I shoot for TFCD, my payment are the images.
When I shoot for charity, my payment is the knowledge that I'm helping someone lead a better life.
Hope I've given some of you some food for though.
whiteprecision said:One that is held in a relaxed atmosphere with no pressure involved .
catchlights said:Well said....
I would say the same thing also.....
I pay you with my images I did for you, or you pay me $$$ for the my images I did for you.