Sony DSLT-A77 and 16-50 f/2.8 SSM hands-on review
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siewsphone
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u sure he eat dim sum in naked?
ageha
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Looks 'clothed' to me.So you don't know if he's clothed or not.
Though, I don't see any bokeh.If you're in your own room? Who knows...
Looks 'clothed' to me.
Off to the right of his wife's face you can see the background blurred. The bokeh doesn't seem harsh, but there are no specular highlights to judge.
ageha
Senior Member
To me it just looks like out of focus.Off to the right of his wife's face you can see the background blurred. The bokeh doesn't seem harsh, but there are no specular highlights to judge.
albertri
Senior Member
this is ISO800? what lens did you use here? Noise seems to be controlled just slight softening but still have a lot of details looking at the eyes, eyebrow area...
To me it just looks like out of focus.
....and bokeh is the quality of the out of focus (blurred) areas.
I think you need to read up on what bokeh is.
1650 ssm
Was it kei bro remark on "naked" then got u lkg into other things???Looks 'clothed' to me.
I am clothed la. Was in a hk restaurant and jus testing out my newly collected toy. Was jus runnig thru the shots earlier and noticed the details in the eyes!
Believe a well lit studio setup would hv outstanding results.
albertri
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1650 ssm
nice lens =) I'll be in HK this Dec hope will be able to get this lens not so sure if I'll take the 1650 as I have the tammy and 1680 =( anyways see how it goes. Bro can PM me the details like shop and price and warranty matters =)
thanks in advanced
NUDITY!
Now that I have your attention . . .
. . . here's another observation about the a77:
The first time I shot with it, I clicked off a few close-ups with my Tamron 60mm f/2 using autofocus and spot AF area. I noticed that they weren't so sharp. Since I shoot macro almost 100% manual focus, I didn't think much about it.
Yesterday while shooting extensively with my 70-400g, AF and spot AF area again, I noticed some variation in the sharpness of my shots--some were ok, some weren't. I switched to MF using peaking and got consistently sharp results.
Before taking the tedious step of AF fine tuning, I decided to try my Minolta 200mm f/2.8 HS. I got the same result: some AF shots were sharp and some weren't; but all MF shots using peaking were sharp.
If all my AF shots had been OOF by the same amount, I would have assumed there to be some sort of calibration issue with the a77. But some were ok. Also, spot AF and MF peaking matched exactly at infinity. So, that would probably rule out a calibration issue.
As the a77's spot AF area has no size adjustment (as does that of the D700), my only conclusion is that maybe the spot AF sensor covers too large an area, especially for shots that have a fairly shallow DOF, which would explain the varied results. The shots I've made using other AF area modes all seem in proper focus.
If the size of the spot AF area is indeed the problem it could have other implications, as in shooting moving targets, such as a bird in flight. 12FPS-capability becomes irrelevant if not one is in focus.
Now that I have your attention . . .
. . . here's another observation about the a77:
The first time I shot with it, I clicked off a few close-ups with my Tamron 60mm f/2 using autofocus and spot AF area. I noticed that they weren't so sharp. Since I shoot macro almost 100% manual focus, I didn't think much about it.
Yesterday while shooting extensively with my 70-400g, AF and spot AF area again, I noticed some variation in the sharpness of my shots--some were ok, some weren't. I switched to MF using peaking and got consistently sharp results.
Before taking the tedious step of AF fine tuning, I decided to try my Minolta 200mm f/2.8 HS. I got the same result: some AF shots were sharp and some weren't; but all MF shots using peaking were sharp.
If all my AF shots had been OOF by the same amount, I would have assumed there to be some sort of calibration issue with the a77. But some were ok. Also, spot AF and MF peaking matched exactly at infinity. So, that would probably rule out a calibration issue.
As the a77's spot AF area has no size adjustment (as does that of the D700), my only conclusion is that maybe the spot AF sensor covers too large an area, especially for shots that have a fairly shallow DOF, which would explain the varied results. The shots I've made using other AF area modes all seem in proper focus.
If the size of the spot AF area is indeed the problem it could have other implications, as in shooting moving targets, such as a bird in flight. 12FPS-capability becomes irrelevant if not one is in focus.
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TWmilkteaTW
Senior Member
am more interested to see high iso performance... hopefully Sony can come out with a v good high ISO performer like D3s..
TWmilkteaTW said:
I think it is clear now that a77 is not going to work that well in iso dept like nex5n .
And really print size and viewing size needs to be taken into consideration . Personally , I think the resolution and details really beat the crap out of many other cameras. It's like when I shoot with my a850 , I was wowed by the resolution and dr the camera has over my old a350.
From the a77 sample shots at dpr, 3200 and 6400 iso looks usable . coupled with a good 1.4/1.8/2.8 glass , that should be adequate to shoot in most lighting conditions . Then again , different people have different yardsticks of what is acceptable iso .
TWmilkteaTW
Senior Member
hmm was referring to future Sony cameras. I think they can and should do better in that particular area.. But its just me because i dont like to use flash. so high ISO is important to me.
kei1309
Senior Member
go calibrate your lens/body. might be a back-or-front focus issue.
I covered & ruled out that possibility, as detailed in the post you quoted.
Done here, see y'all in B&S, and in the field. Happy shooting!
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I covered & ruled out that possibility, as detailed in the post you quoted.
Done here, see y'all in B&S, and in the field. Happy shooting!
I didn't have that focus inaccuracy problem when I was shooting. I wonder if you can keep testing and let us know if it comes back.
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