Sony DSLT-A77 and 16-50 f/2.8 SSM hands-on review


Compared to the D700, which changes those settings the instant the dial is turned, yes, there's a very slight lag, though probably less than a half-second. To me it's not bothersome at all. Oddly, my a35 has no such delay.

I watched for the reported delay in shutdown and did not experience that at all. The only thing I noticed is that there's some clicking noise on startup and a few seconds after shutdown, which I guess to be the body's motor drive engaging with/disengaging from the lens. My a35 has the same noise. I guess that's the tradeoff for Sony's low-end bodies being able to drive autofocus and meter with fully manual lenses, a boast Nikon can't make. Still, I was a bit surprised to hear it in the a77.

Yeah the clicking sound seem to be the motor resetting to rest position or normal power on position I am used to that sound using A33 I am not bothered with it it gives me a feedback feel that my cam is awaking up or shutting down =)
 

javabeans said:
Running on 1.03 now. It's much better. Evf still shows a lag tats slightly better than a55. The aperture setting is better but still some microseconds off.

Bro, you bought your set from hk and its shipped with fw1.03 default?

Btw share with us your thoughts on high iso quality. :)
 

I knee down beg cried and raved like a spoilt kid then got upgraded lor.
 

OKAY, A FEW FACTS . . . in the field, powered up for 2 hrs 40 mins except to power down for a few lens changes . . . approx 175 frames shot, about a third of those using flash, used 56% of battery. Hopefully battery life will improve a bit after it's cycled a few times. The a35 is even worse...

. . . and SOME SUBJECTIVE STUFF: turns out that little so-I-thought "viewfinder magnification" button crops the frame size! Still no apparent glitches/bugs whatsoever observed during operation. After about 10 minutes, the minor lag in response to changing aperture and/or shutter speed just seems negligible. AF to MF on the fly requires one slight thumb motion, which almost rewrites the book on bug shooting. For shooting at a specific distance, use AF to get in the ballpark, push the MF button to move to precise focus. For specific magnification, use the scale on the lens, thumb that button, move into precise focus, and nail the critter! Slide the thumb off the button and you've got instant AF again. And if that's not easy enough, peaking comes on as soon as MF is selected, but you'll see it only on in-focus areas in your subject.

OTHER THINGS TO LIKE: when going back and forth between aperture priority and manual mode, the camera remembered my settings for each, unlike the D700, which had to have aperture dialed in again with each change. Changing aperture and shutter speed in manual mode makes use of front and rear wheels, rather than also requiring the simultaneous push of a button (as in the D700 does for shutter speed change). Virtual horizon is full-time on demand if needed. ALL shooting info can be displayed in the EVF, enabling tweaking by menu or FN button while not losing track of the subject. I haven't gotten around to the two presets, but I'll probably end up using the mode dial more often.

AS FOR THE NOISE ISSUE: more subjective observation... I did dial it up for a few shots just to see what all the hoopla is about. It looks about the same as my a35--coarse grain and/or mottling is more or less obvious in OOF areas depending on what color those areas are. Generally, though, at 100% magnification, even ISO 400 bothers me. Below 65% magnification at ISO 400 it's not so noticeable. Strange as it may seem, my NEX C3 seems to do better in the ISO noise department.

AND THE EVF: Using my standard of being able to see the texture of a dragonfly's eyes inside 1:2 magnification, the EVF doesn't render detail comparable to a FF OVF. But it gives enough detail to enable accurate MF, even to an aging pair of eyes like mine. And, given what I mentioned in my previous post, I much prefer it to an OVF.

AND WHAT ABOUT DETAIL? Unretouched 100% crop at around 1:1 . . . well, you be the judge . . .

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See y'all in the field . . . happy shooting! :D
 

OKAY, A FEW FACTS . . . See y'all in the field . . . happy shooting! :D

Again great stuff bro =) and thank you on keeping us updated as per your experience =)

May I know what EXIF of this photo? and what ISO you used for this shot 400? seem some noise looking at the transition between darker shade but again this is subjective and it's 100% crop. Still great details =)
 

Again great stuff bro =) and thank you on keeping us updated as per your experience =)

May I know what EXIF of this photo? and what ISO you used for this shot 400? seem some noise looking at the transition between darker shade but again this is subjective and it's 100% crop. Still great details =)

ISO 200, 1/250, f/11, hand-held, with flash. Tamron 60mm f/2.

I agree. When I found this critter who didn't mind being blinded from four inches away, I forgot to switch back to ISO 100. ISO 200 is the first setting at which I notice a change in texture at 100% magnification. And from there, it gets dirtier in a hurry.

100% crop from the one ISO 400 shot I didn't delete . . . yet. 400mm FL at 1/125 didn't help, either . . . ;p

birdnoise.jpg


By comparison, 100% crop from an ISO 100 shot (wish I had some o' what this critter's been drinking!):

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ISO 200, 1/250, f/11, hand-held, with flash. Tamron 60mm f/2.

I agree. When I found this critter who didn't mind being blinded from four inches away, I forgot to switch back to ISO 100. ISO 200 is the first setting at which I notice a change in texture at 100% magnification. And from there, it gets dirtier in a hurry.

100% crop from the one ISO 400 shot I didn't delete . . . yet. 400mm FL at 1/125 didn't help, either . . . ;p


By comparison, 100% crop from an ISO 100 shot (wish I had some o' what this critter's been drinking!):

yeah seeing the huge difference =) this is a trade off of having huge mega pixel hopefully Sony on its next firmware update could came out with a better algorithm for noise control/reduction. I cant imagine if you turn off NR =) for smaller megapixel like those of A33 when using ISO 100/200 I could convert my RAW to JPEG with NR turn off =)
 

. . . and SOME SUBJECTIVE STUFF: turns out that little so-I-thought "viewfinder magnification" button crops the frame size!

Toggle it in the menu to 100% magnification. :)
 

Any news on when the 16-50mm f/2.8 will arrive here? :)
 

Toggle it in the menu to 100% magnification. :)

Thanks . . . just tried it and it's the same as the NEX C3 and a35. Once the shutter button is touched, the magnification is lost. Great for some applications, but useless for obtaining focus in close-up shooting.

If anyone from Sony is listening, it would be great if this feature could have an option so that the magnification can be retained in the EVF until the shutter is released. Add that to the peaking feature and the articulating LCD, and you'd have the ultimate arsenal of focusing aids for critter shooting. Beyond that, it's hard to imagine anything that could make the a77 any easier to shoot than it already is.
 

Running on 1.03 now. It's much better. Evf still shows a lag tats slightly better than a55. The aperture setting is better but still some microseconds off.

bro sorry did i missed the link? can you share where to download 1.03? thanks in advance
 

Rashkae,

I am trying to purchase Sony A77 if possible before oct 10-got a big function overseas and would love to able to use the camera for that event. pse advise possibility or any hint of sale date in Singapore?. Welcome yr advice to sms 96380263 cheerio
 

Rashkae,

I am trying to purchase Sony A77 if possible before oct 10-got a big function overseas and would love to able to use the camera for that event. pse advise possibility or any hint of sale date in Singapore?. Welcome yr advice to sms 96380263 cheerio

Call up Sony and ask. But if you need it in a rush, you need to order from HK. Will probably save a lot of $$$ that way too as Sony SG prices are way too high.
 

Hmm, direct from Sony HK? They do shipping to sg? Alternatively, you can buy it from digitalrev.com. But thee price is crazy. But, if you're in need than...
 

Hmm, direct from Sony HK? They do shipping to sg? Alternatively, you can buy it from digitalrev.com. But thee price is crazy. But, if you're in need than...

Of course not shipped from Sony HK. From the shops/digitalrev.
 

was taking portrait of my wife while having dim sum in HK. OMG, could see myself in her eyes! Check out the bokeh behind.

ISO 800, F4.5
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was taking portrait of my wife while having dim sum in HK. OMG, could see myself in her eyes! Check out the bokeh behind.

ISO 800, F4.5
6206588052_7e46e99e04_b.jpg


the reflection is so clear... i can tell that you're... naked? :o
 

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