Sony DSC-RX100


Saw previous posting of someone selling as staff price, which is lower than the market price.

If no lobang to get staff price, this are some updates on retail price.

Checked Funan yesterday. This is the current cash price, GST included, no credit card allowed (dated 1 Oct 2012):
1) Alan Photo - $900
2) Cathay Photo - $920
3) Bally Photo - $950
4) Southeast - $999 (bargained to lowest $915)
5) SLRR - $975

All shops above have no stocks for the original leather case ($99 if bundled with camera, or $139 if buying separately). Only Southeast has good supply of the leather case.

Bro, Thank you for the quick update, i just got my RX100 from Alan Photo at SGD 920, with 16GB..... 20 bucks more....haha
 

Thanks for the update guys. I'm looking to get one for my wife.

So the bundle now doesnt include the casing?
 

The standard set does not include the leather case, but you can bundle with the RX100 by paying $99 instead of $139 for the case.

The shops (if they have stocks for the leather case) will sell for the leather case at full price at $139 if you are not buying with the RX100.

If you know how and where to bargain, it is a different story all together.

Have been playing with friend's set today, and I must say it is really a solid compact camera. Under good lighting, it is sharper and more resolving than Nex with APS-C sensor!

Guess this is what a tuned lens could do to maximise the sensor resolution.
 

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Under good lighting, it is sharper and more resolving than Nex with APS-C sensor!

Guess this is what a tuned lens could do to maximise the sensor resolution.

Could you elaborate on how you came to such a judgment? I'm specifically interested in knowing what ISO you used in comparing the two and what lens you used on the NEX with the APS-C sensor, as well as what you mean by "more resolving."
 

Sold my Nex 7 quite sometime back so only tested with a Nex F3 using the kit zoom lens.

May not be fair to compare 16mpx (F3) vs 20mpx (RX100), but at ISO125 (daylight shots) at roughly same focal length around 50mm zoom (under 35mm standard), RX100 could resolve far away object slightly better (I have only tried taking some shots from office building across). Road signs can still be seen easily with RX100, but not so clear with F3.

Both of the cameras are with OSS on.

Will try to post some shots when I have a chance to test the camera again.

This is not a scientific test, but I am just surprised of the sharpness and resolution of such a small camera. May end up getting one as spare.


Could you elaborate on how you came to such a judgment? I'm specifically interested in knowing what ISO you used in comparing the two and what lens you used on the NEX with the APS-C sensor, as well as what you mean by "more resolving."
 

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Sold my Nex 7 quite sometime back so only tested with a Nex F3 using the kit zoom lens.

May not be fair to compare 16mpx (F3) vs 20mpx (RX100), but at ISO125 (daylight shots) at roughly same focal length around 50mm zoom (under 35mm standard), RX100 could resolve far away object slightly better (I have only tried taking some shots from office building across). Road signs can still be seen easily with RX100, but not so clear with F3.

Both of the cameras are with OSS on.

Will try to post some shots when I have a chance to test the camera again.

This is not a scientific test, but I am just surprised of the sharpness and resolution of such a small camera. May end up getting one as spare.

In raw with zero sharpening in post?
 

Nope. Shot in jpg for both, NR set to LOW. Smaller letters, roadnames seems sharper and more obvious with RX100.

Guessing that the customised zoom lens on RX100 is better tuned to produce a sharper image.


In raw with zero sharpening in post?
 

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Nope. Shot in jpg for both, NR set to LOW. Smaller letters, roadnames seems sharper and more obvious with RX100.

Guessing that the customised zoom lens on RX100 is better tuned to produce a sharper image.

It's a zeiss! :)
 

Nope. Shot in jpg for both, NR set to LOW. Smaller letters, roadnames seems sharper and more obvious with RX100.

Guessing that the customised zoom lens on RX100 is better tuned to produce a sharper image.
;) Could be just the JPEG processing... Not saying it couldn't be the lens. ;) My copy of the E 18-55mm is pretty bad, even my 1 Nikkor 10-30mm runs circles around it.
 

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ageha said:
;) Could be just the JPEG processing... Not saying it couldn't be the lens. ;) My copy of the E 18-55mm is pretty bad, even my 1 Nikkor 10-30mm runs circles around it.

Actually d kit 18-55 is pretty ok when stopped down ain't it?
 

the the CZ lens on the RX100 is optimized to work in tandem with the sensor. that's why it performs very well in terms of edge sharpness and overall resolving power.

but it isn't the same for the NEX-7 and the E-mount 18-55mm. that black lens is perpetually in my dry cabinet now :bsmilie:

i have no intention to sell it because it still comes in handy as a back-up for certain events.

but if you're talking about resolving power, the SEL50F18, Samyang Lenses and Voigtlanders work very well with the NEX-7. needless to say, the Leica lenses too.
 

the the CZ lens on the RX100 is optimized to work in tandem with the sensor. that's why it performs very well in terms of edge sharpness and overall resolving power.

but it isn't the same for the NEX-7 and the E-mount 18-55mm. that black lens is perpetually in my dry cabinet now :bsmilie:

i have no intention to sell it because it still comes in handy as a back-up for certain events.

but if you're talking about resolving power, the SEL50F18, Samyang Lenses and Voigtlanders work very well with the NEX-7. needless to say, the Leica lenses too.

Dun forget about the legacy Zeiss lenses... Resolve the NEX 7 sensor very well too...
 

Yes, that is exactly what I meant.

It is really a petite camera which really can't tell that it can take such sharp and detailed photos.

Certainly not comparing it to a Nex-7 with good manual lenses from Zeiss, Leica or Voigtlander. Just that this small camera with significantly smaller sensor than APS-C can actually deliver very close resolution to it's Nex brothers is amazing. I will not compare lowlight shots as it will be quite inappropriate, but day shots taken are really solid with sharpness that I used to get only from bigger sensors.

Given it's size (this is really pocketable) and superb resolution, this may be a good choice for someone looking for travel-size camera.



the the CZ lens on the RX100 is optimized to work in tandem with the sensor. that's why it performs very well in terms of edge sharpness and overall resolving power.

but it isn't the same for the NEX-7 and the E-mount 18-55mm. that black lens is perpetually in my dry cabinet now :bsmilie:

i have no intention to sell it because it still comes in handy as a back-up for certain events.

but if you're talking about resolving power, the SEL50F18, Samyang Lenses and Voigtlanders work very well with the NEX-7. needless to say, the Leica lenses too.
 

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Yes, that is exactly what I meant.

It is really a petite camera which really can't tell that it can take such sharp and detailed photos.

Certainly not comparing it to a Nex-7 with good manual lenses from Zeiss, Leica or Voigtlander. Just that this small camera with significantly smaller sensor than APS-C can actually deliver very close resolution to it's Nex brothers is amazing. I will not compare lowlight shots as it will be quite inappropriate, but day shots taken are really solid with sharpness that I used to get only from bigger sensors.

Given it's size (this is really pocketable) and superb resolution, this may be a good choice for someone looking for travel-size camera.

Which get us thinking.... RX1 on Full Frame... wif Zeiss lens customized to it... It will blow current NEX systems off d charts... No?
 

Which get us thinking.... RX1 on Full Frame... wif Zeiss lens customized to it... It will blow current NEX systems off d charts... No?

Why taking the NEX system as a reference? Take e.g. the D600 + 35/2 Nikkor, should cost approximately the same. ;)
 

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Why taking the NEX system as a reference? Take e.g. the D600 + 35/2 Nikkor, should cost approximately the same. ;)

If u take FF to FF comparison, yes... D600 wif 35/2 Nikkor will be a good comparison. RX1 is so much lighter and compact though. Initially tot everyone is comparing Sony to Sony systems and tatz y I ask for RX1 to NEX system comparison instead.. LOL;p
 

Sold my Nex 7 quite sometime back so only tested with a Nex F3 using the kit zoom lens.

May not be fair to compare 16mpx (F3) vs 20mpx (RX100), but at ISO125 (daylight shots) at roughly same focal length around 50mm zoom (under 35mm standard), RX100 could resolve far away object slightly better (I have only tried taking some shots from office building across). Road signs can still be seen easily with RX100, but not so clear with F3.

Both of the cameras are with OSS on.

Will try to post some shots when I have a chance to test the camera again.

This is not a scientific test, but I am just surprised of the sharpness and resolution of such a small camera. May end up getting one as spare.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. No need for scientific tests; your fact-based opinion is good enough for me. The kit lens . . . it's no surprise. But then, any NEX shooter who could discern the difference probably has a cabinet full of 3rd-party glass anyway. ;)

I have a sneaking suspicion that Sony tweaked the NEX firmware to amp contrast for the kit lens, the dearth of which might explain some of the absence of detail when compared to a lens that produces a markedly smaller image circle.
 

parkway Harvey Norman. 899. Just checked today
 

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