kentwong81
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You buy ur cam from Amazon? those price are local price. U can check out from CP or AP .. but of course don't check with MS color since u got bad encounter with them
Yeah, Courts is still selling at SGD699. Good. :bigeyes:
Samsung EX-1 Review
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Yeah, Courts is still selling at SGD699. Good. :bigeyes:
peterpan1975
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Siao ... so expensive ....
denniskee
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again i am asking ex1 owner to pls come out with me to do a side by side comparison.
should ex1 come out on top, my buddy will buy ex1 & than i have chance to get is lx3.;p;p
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kentwong81
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I would love to but I'm afraid that I don't have the professional skills and experience to do a fair comparison. I believe the website http://www.seriouscompacts.com/f41/ have provided a good reference on the testings for EX1.
peterpan1975
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Taken from your Recommended site.
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1) In some cases, it looks like more sharpening was applied to the EX1 crop. As I stated above, all files were processed in Silkypix with the same sharpening applied. It is possible that the Samsung version of Silkypix is doing something different, but this very slight overall softness is something I have seen before with the LX3 files processed using a converter which corrects the marked barrel distortion of that camera, and the noise levels between crops are similar. I have tried adding extra sharpening to the LX3 crops (data not shown), and that did not change any of the conclusions.
Why the tester did not use Photoshop? why tester using Silkypix which was provided by Samsung? Does it seem a fair test? So come back to what you mention being fair comparsion.... seem like it still not so. Thats why, Denniskee request any ppl with EX1 to come out and do a test.
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denniskee
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oh!! u r tooo modest liao.
as u can see in my "test", it is as simple as taking a few shots of the same subject under same lighting condition with both cameras, we r not talking about using iso test chart here.
how complicated can it be? the link u posted, they r "pro tester" (note there is a difference between pro photog and a pro lab tech)? do u know the tester personally? what i can see is also a normal outdoor day shot of neighbourhood mah. did they specified testing condition? what is their GR&R? what sort of eqpt did they use? does those eqpt has valid iso calibrations by a valid independent org?
i quote from the link u provided
2) Regarding the decentering issues, some may say that I have defective copies of both cameras, and that this invalidates the test results. Having tested many advanced compacts, I know that this degree of lens decentering is par for the course. For example, both of the S90 units I tested (each bought separately from Best Buy) were affected by decentering. The same was true for my GX100, G7, G9, D-LUX 3, D-LUX 4, and so forth. It's easy to say that a $400+ camera should have a perfectly centered lens, but very few of them do.
so how is it that de-centering issue here is consider ok but not when dpreview has similar issue?
now i m confuse again.
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kentwong81
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You have to ask the tester, not me. I just refer the website to the forumers here as a guide.
For me, both LX3 and EX1 are good compact cameras. I never look for the best one as this is very subjective and everyone has different needs.
peterpan1975
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Thats why come back to the question you ask me "do you trust the website or personal hands on?"
My answer still the same "website only cover 60% of the decision factor, the rest still have to do hands on".
If a person that so simple minded to trust advisterment without testing it, then i got nothing to say.
Sorry to add 1 more thing. You mention that "I never look for the best .... " so does it mean ???
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peterpan1975
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I think we are confussing ourself here trying to out spoken each other. Its starting to get out of topic lao. So many review, so many posting, so many refer, so many URL. Each say theirs the best. Who would say their is "so-so" or "bad".
Its simply pointless trying to figure out which review is the correct version. thats why u call for a on-site compareson. But the true is, NO one will come forward.
Hmm .. maybe we can ask TS for assistance
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me?
i HATE technical shootouts and their useless micro peeping tendencies (to me, unless it is TOTALLY glaring ) but for the sake of entertainment........sure!
give me a call Dennis (PMed u) .... was really hoping for another forum member to volunteer .... but since no takers, I'll step up
BTW ..... dont expect me to defend this camera.... i love it and i hate it.... at the same time.
:bsmilie:
i HATE technical shootouts and their useless micro peeping tendencies (to me, unless it is TOTALLY glaring ) but for the sake of entertainment........sure!
give me a call Dennis (PMed u) .... was really hoping for another forum member to volunteer .... but since no takers, I'll step up
BTW ..... dont expect me to defend this camera.... i love it and i hate it.... at the same time.
:bsmilie:
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peterpan1975
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cool cool ... can i join? I will supply the laptop, card reader and other stuff if need be. hehehe
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oh goodness , I could not care less ......... Dennis if you make me sit down at a kopi stall all sat afternoon shooting coffee cups at different iso and different focal lengths , I will definitely strangle u...
Peterpan, if u want to join us this sat around 2.30pm ... PM me.
kentwong81
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Yup, I never find out which one is the best because there is no absolute answer. Everyone has different needs and preference. :dunno:
For me, both LX3 and EX1 are good cameras. There are many good reviews about these 2 cameras. If you need a camera, just buy either one and you can't go wrong with them.
I bought EX1 because it is cheaper and newer than LX3 and I like its swivel clear AMOLED. Of course these features may not be important to you and you may look at other features of LX3 which EX1 doesn't have. If there is no EX1, I will buy LX3. Just simple as that.
Technical testings/comparisons are welcomed, but the right skills and knowledge are needed to find out the absolute answer, especially when the two cameras are very similar in performance. So who has the right skills and knowledge? If you say you have, others may not agree. This is the nature of human beings and the universe. That's why the reviews are not trusted by all the people in the world. Also the effort and time spent may sound burden for some people, especially when dealing with just a compact camera instead of advanced DSLR which costs more than $2000.
Life is short. Make your life easier.
denniskee
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like i had posted, do u know that person in the link u provided for u to claim it as "good reference"
pls enlighten us the difference between his normal day outdoor shot of his neighbourhood to the shot i taken in plaza sing?
also, that person mentioned the camera has de-centralizing issue, so, isnt that a problem if base on ur post?
denniskee
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alamak, rest assure i only interested in 24mm & full zoom, iso400 & iso800. so total only 4 shots, buy u 4 cups of kopi lor.:bsmilie::bsmilie:
kentwong81
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like i had posted, do u know that person in the link u provided for u to claim it as "good reference"
pls enlighten us the difference between his normal day outdoor shot of his neighbourhood to the shot i taken in plaza sing?
also, that person mentioned the camera has de-centralizing issue, so, isnt that a problem if base on ur post?
I posted that website because I saw that some of you in this thread are interested to see comparison between LX3 and EX1? Whether you agree with the review from that website, it's up to your own judgement and I am unable to correct you as I don't have the right skill and knowledge. There are many photos taken using LX3 and EX1 side-by-side including the bokeh in that website. To me, they are all good and could be better than other compact cameras.
peterpan1975
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Hmm ... strange, i was about to comment the same thing.
Life short, play hard. but don't make life difficult for yourself or to other.
denniskee
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like i say, pls enlighten me, cause since u r qualify to make such sweeping comment.
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kentwong81
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Hmm ... strange, i was about to comment the same thing.
Life short, play hard. but don't make life difficult for yourself or to other.
Ya, just buy and enjoy photoshooting. Why make ur life difficult by doing testings/comparisons on two similar good performance compact camera?
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