reachme2003
Senior Member
Give credit where it is due. Don't throw the baby out together with the bath water.
... that reminded me of a Magnum photog who recently visited Singapore, Steve McCurry. His infamous shot of the Afghanistan Girl didn't really impress me. But when I saw one of his latest books "South Southeast", I now put him on my list of "Great Photographers". Why I brought him up? Beautiful work of people in those regions which had that touch of 'salon' flavour? 'Salon' is a taboo to people doing street work, I'm included. But to do street with that little touch (don't be confuse with actual 'salon' work), I think Steve is superb.teL said:In fact, I would say that a large number of them are taken on the street, just like many guys claim to do: "street photography" but in my case, with a salon "flavour" or touch to the final picture.
kenghor said:Salon is a good place to start off with. It teaches u the very fundamentals. But my personal advise is to learn the basic and move on because:
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ed9119 said:Kenghor, well spoken.
I mean, how am I going to break the 'rules' if I dont even know what the 'rules' are in the first place?....and these do not just cover salon photography 'rules' but society's own 'rules' of what is acceptable/unacceptable, and each social environment's own set of values, moral/ethical codes.
ed9119 said:I've not abandoned any of these rules but rather use them as a basis from which I try to deviate....and if it dont seem to work, well, go back to base again and go on a different tangent and again and again and again.....To me, that's how I developed.
dom72 said:Photography should be progressive but styles and technics from different eras can be cross blended . . . eg: salon styled lighting with a graphic composition . . . posed pictures with bright or stark white background instead of black . . . selective focussing instead of everything sharp . . . sunset shots with super wide distortion and camera tilts instead of standard 180° horizon and 90° trees.
Azure said:With due respect, EngLoy, I've had less-than-happy experience of encountering Salon "photogs" at work. Yes, they have the theory. Practical, as in real life, that's altogether another animal. (yes, they had all those rubbish attached too - FRPS, PSS, S-n-more-S)
Steven Yee said:Not to offend, don't be a frog in the well.
Steven Yee said:The only reason which I can think of, why people criticise Salons is because they have no guts to pit their works, or they are afraid of failures. Usually those who criticise Salons are those who failed badly in Salons, the usual case of "sour grapes". Let us not get affected by them.
teL said:I will lay the gauntlet here: rather than be "sour grapes" about it all, I challenge you (and whoever who think that they are better) to apply and qualify for a FRPS, an ARPS, or for that matter, an LRPS, or even a LPSS and APSS. Talking about being good is pointless. Show us how good you really are. Think you're good? PROVE IT.
teL said:Just a post to satisfy my curiousity.. not intended to start a flame war or otherwiseWhat's your take?