Rumours again ! Pentax DSLR but no FF


Well, the only reason why I like FF (in general) is because I find the viewfinder nice and big for the myopic me. :P
 

Well, the only reason why I like FF (in general) is because I find the viewfinder nice and big for the myopic me. :P

Anyway what we are discussing here is nothing contentious; it is just personal opinion. Such opinion may change in time to come. Every range of camera has its pros and cons; you sacrifice portability for extra depth of field and vice versa. Although I personally own a K5 IIs, Fujifilm S5 Pro and Nex 7, the S5 Pro is still the best for skin tone and many photo studio still use one of this (even the S3 Pro) may be until it runs out of shutter. I keep the S5 Pro as an antique and hardly use it as it is much heavier than the K5 IIs. The Nex 7 is always with me when I travelled. I wish that Pentax can come out one like the latest Ricoh but with changeable lens, this will be wonderful.
 

Anyway what we are discussing here is nothing contentious; it is just personal opinion. Such opinion may change in time to come. Every range of camera has its pros and cons; you sacrifice portability for extra depth of field and vice versa. Although I personally own a K5 IIs, Fujifilm S5 Pro and Nex 7, the S5 Pro is still the best for skin tone and many photo studio still use one of this (even the S3 Pro) may be until it runs out of shutter. I keep the S5 Pro as an antique and hardly use it as it is much heavier than the K5 IIs. The Nex 7 is always with me when I travelled. I wish that Pentax can come out one like the latest Ricoh but with changeable lens, this will be wonderful.

or fullframe compact camera like rx1 with fix 31mm lens? :)

like how leica put their Elmarit 24mm 2.8 on X1 (APS-C compact camera), and the signature rendering still there, i think if pentax can put 31mm design on compact camera it would be great :lovegrin:

ps: i agree on portability, carrying heavy camera ain't fun
 

basic function of watch is to tell time...with many choices of brands, models, sizes and prices...
huh?? what am I talking?
going back to hibernation...:confused:
 

basic function of watch is to tell time...with many choices of brands, models, sizes and prices...
huh?? what am I talking?
going back to hibernation...:confused:

To each his own :-)
 

I should not have posted this rumour!
Seemed a lot of discussion w deep thoughts from many members. Pentax R&D must be under a lot of stress with the global call for FF by segment of the Pentaxian community.

To each his own :-)
 

It definitely would cause the greatest stir in the Pentax user group if FF is announced for release whether u want one or not. This is good for the product portfolio n for Pentax to upgrade itself to a full-fledge vendor capable of what other big boys r doing. People like to be along the big boys generally. Esp with Ricoh at it's helm, no reason of not dreaming big m make it happen.
Come on PR, you can do it!
I believe many wld consider to get one if its out there. Further more if its better than the big boys in some aspects, that how PR shld strategize to put the PULL factor for the other guys to change ship.
 

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By not releasing a FF dslr Pentax will never be token seriously no matter how good their new products are. Its all about marketing, not so much about how clever you can shoot with your apsc cameras. And i find condescending to be told that FF are not necessary.
 

By not releasing a FF dslr Pentax will never be token seriously no matter how good their new products are. Its all about marketing, not so much about how clever you can shoot with your apsc cameras. And i find condescending to be told that FF are not necessary.

That's the whole point... ;)
 

By not releasing a FF dslr Pentax will never be token seriously no matter how good their new products are. Its all about marketing, not so much about how clever you can shoot with your apsc cameras. And i find condescending to be told that FF are not necessary.

Yeah, so that hobbyists can pretend that they need something they don't need. :bsmilie:

Go marketing! Go consumerism!
 

I should not have posted this rumour!
Seemed a lot of discussion w deep thoughts from many members. Pentax R&D must be under a lot of stress with the global call for FF by segment of the Pentaxian community.

I actually wrote a very long post about all this, with samples and what I'd think is reasoning on why FF is not a panecea.
But decided not to post it.
Don't want to make trouble when the mod is not around.


I'd suggest everyone do the same.
Go out and take more photos.
Its certainly more joyful than arguing over all this or feel aggreaved over it.


Just found the rarest Takumar yesterday, shot a friend's ROM, even got some money from their ang-po.
Managed to oust the childcare's pro photog as the main photog this year (yes, they offered I never asked, and its paid service)
All in a day, with a Pentax and all due to experiencing the joys of photography, not via anger/unhappiness/perceived greviances.
Just shoot more ;)
 

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That's the whole point... ;)

the whole POINT where FF is concerned, is simply this: if everybody put their money where their mouth is, pentax would have released one long ago.

there are users who have genuine needs where a FF will add value - i fully respect that - but what's the deal with the rest of the noise from pple who do not need one, will not buy one, cannot afford one, but who loves to be associated with a brand that offers a FF?

come on lah... this is so weird on so many levels that it is not even funny...
 

Yeah, so that hobbyists can pretend that they need something they don't need. :bsmilie:

Go marketing! Go consumerism!

I can see that Pentaxians are a different breed of photography enthusiasts. The initial decision to go for Pentax instead of C&N already proved that we are independent minded rather than followers. I attended a photography course many years ago, the whole class room of about a dozen people all using either C or N. Even the instructor would base everything according to C&N and also recommended those who are upgrading to one of these brands. For us a minority stood firm and made our choice. We know the equipment that we are using is good and stands head and shoulder above the competitions. Certainly we feel proud of what we have in our hand, regardless of whether it is a FF or APC-S or whatever.
 

I should not have posted this rumour!
Seemed a lot of discussion w deep thoughts from many members. Pentax R&D must be under a lot of stress with the global call for FF by segment of the Pentaxian community.

dun worry about it.
it's good to stir up some brain cells once in a while...:)
 

Yeah, so that hobbyists can pretend that they need something they don't need. :bsmilie:

Go marketing! Go consumerism!

bro,
as bro FW puts it:
it's WANT, not need lah.... nobody needs to take any pictures to live - unless he's a professional.

in your words - consumerism! marketing! (sounds dirty) but that's what gets business going, and Pentax-Ricoh is every bit a business concern, they must do something about it.
 

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doesn't look like will affect me this release .... oh well back to saving for the next upgrade to K5
 

bro,
as bro FW puts it:
it's WANT, not need lah.... nobody needs to take any pictures to live - unless he's a professional.

in your words - consumerism! marketing! (sounds dirty) but that's what gets business going, and Pentax-Ricoh is every bit a business concern, they must do something about it.
Oh, I was talking about "need" from the context of taking pictures. I doubt many hobbyists really need the supposed plus points that a FF offers.

I agree with you that Pentax-Ricoh needs to care about its business. I just dispute that the answer lies in just pushing out a FF for the sake of doing so. Even if I agree that FF is the answer to keeping Pentax viable in the long run - frankly speaking, I'd rather they take their time and release a kick-arse product, especially since Canikon have themselves an established foothold in this segment (Sony is trying but I don't think the reception is very good, but I won't know). Better to burst into the party with a bang than to release some half-baked nonsense which will die out unnoticed and without a whimper (or worse, be famous for the wrong things).
 

im a hobbyist... and i need FF.... maybe im just an oddball :bsmilie:

Pentax better not go FF... it will be a losing money venture for sure... focus on making the best VFM APC camera out there... and sell more lenses...
 

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