Zeckson Chow
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OMG, both are very good. I love Roxanne's natural beauty. I love Constance's aura in pictures. Cannot really tell who I like better. All has their good points.
Roxanne: Episode 1 - Part 1
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OMG said:
Neither, Bro OMG. I am myself. Hope to be myself. Newbie, on the path to learn. Hope to catch your comments as well. Read some of your post. Your comments are very constructive. I like them. Something that will really make me sit dwn and ponder.
Zeckson Chow said:Okay, I'll take note of the cropping in the next shoot. All my shots uses tight cropping. Guess I need to learn more... Thanks for commenting.
It is better to take with some space, then you got more choice to tight crop certain shot. All photos being tight crop also make the series very boring.
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T16 said:
Okay. I will take note of this point as well, thanks. But I have done this already, too late to change. Will try again in my next shoot. Thanks T16.
Zeckson Chow
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I think you may have a point there. I attended her second shoot. It was in the late morning, almost afternoon. The sun was scorching though. She came here straight after her first shoot.
And yes, she is gorgeous! You should see her in real person.
And yes, she is gorgeous! You should see her in real person.
Zeckson Chow said:
Zeckson,
Good attempt, i read somewhere that if you intend to post process your pics, don't set it sharper in your camera..
Again it may just apply for a particular camera made but it's worth trying..
My guess, what Darkforce did was soften your pic using noise tool and perhaps unsharp mask, if he is using CS, to give the pic a softer look.. is that correct DarkForce?... really nice piece of touch up :thumbsup:
Zeckson Chow
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Thanks LeeDan. I will take note of that in my next shoot. But what was done cannot be undone already. I have also posted Part 2. Hope to hear your pro comments. Thanks.
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grantyale said:
All correct. I did this on purpose for the fear that I will over-expose the picture. My D70 was set to ISO250, +1 EV, -2 Slow Sync flash, aperture F6 or higher and shutter speed 1/100 or faster.
Output picture is rather dim, as would D70 intentional leverage to medium gray. Post processing, I have to level up the exposure, brighten the contrast, increase the gamma, push up the saturation and add in a slight blue. Afterwhich, I have to sharpen the pictures a little bit as it look OOF due to handshake. And finally resize the large picture to a small size so that posting up in ClubSnap will be easy. During resizing, I have to sharpen it constantly as after every resizing, it becomes soft (Shouldn't have used Slow Sync flash).
The above are general settings used on most shots.
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Try to get exposure right from the beginning. Overexposure will blow out the highlight and that's what we're all aware of - however, underexposure, especially when shooting JPEGs, is also deadly. JPEGs are not linear in intensity and subsequent levelling/curving will cause color changes. Also when you correct underexpose pictures, their darker stops are streched too much and noise will be very apparent. (For normal processes with normalized signals, a gamma=0.45 correction is done, where mid-tone to highlight is raised to their 0.45th power and the darkest part is approximated by multiplying 4.5 - that's why the significant noise).
I remembered it was a damn fine day and I got burnt after an afternoon of shooting at Sentosa... How did you get 1/100s speed?
I remembered it was a damn fine day and I got burnt after an afternoon of shooting at Sentosa... How did you get 1/100s speed?
Zeckson Chow
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We were trying to get her into the sun. Some shots were in the sun, some were in the shades. That's where I need to adjust the shutter speed so that it will not over-expose her.
I have a total of 3 episodes of her. Episode 1 is mainly done in the sun. Episodes 2 and 3 are done in the shades. I have not post process them yet. Will take note of all the pointers mentioned here when doing it. Achieving consistent post processing is difficult, especially to me.
I have a total of 3 episodes of her. Episode 1 is mainly done in the sun. Episodes 2 and 3 are done in the shades. I have not post process them yet. Will take note of all the pointers mentioned here when doing it. Achieving consistent post processing is difficult, especially to me.
LeeDan said:
Thanks LeeDan,
I avoid using any noise reduction tool (eg: Neat Image, Noise Ninja etc ...) as it will more to less reduce some amount of details on the photo.
Was using PS to salvage the overdone photo by
- Soften the skin and hair
- adjust the curves
- using multiply layers to create some details and highlights so that the photo is not that flat.
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Agreed with Dann, "Best is to use minimum PS, try to get right on the camera".
Zeckson Chow
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TMC said:
No need to enlighten you on anything. The pictures turned out to be dim as well. Stop asking all these unnecessary questions if you do not have any constructive comments to offer. You love doing this, don't you? Scrutinize at people's mistakes and laught at it on some other thread... You are bored. Don't talk so much. Since you commented until as if you know a lot, post up some of your shots and let's see if your pictures are as good as what you are talking. Let's see how your "science" vs your "art" and we will see if you are really as good as what you are. If not, please shut up if you have nothing to offer. Nobody will say you are dumb if you don't speak. I welcome constructive comments on how to improve (as you can read from earlier posts by other CSers) and not sit here for some of you to take me as target board. I believe I am not too far on this.
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TMC said:
PoohBear, does this sound like a constructive comment to you? Capitalize the words with exclaimation marks. I am very sure he knows what he is writing. I still remembered when he used the word "freaking" on one of my threads when I asked about convex lines. And in public forums, MSN, IRC, etc., capitalization of your words represent that you are stressing on it and caps with "!" at the back will mean a different thing, more emphasizing on the mood. Do you think I should still be sitting there talking nicely?
Look at other comments. They are constructive because they pinpointed out the wrongs and highlighted them to me so that I can take note. You do not see me replying to them in the way I replied to TMC (and some other people which may participate after reading this).
If I am defensive, I would have argued with everybody when they commented. But I didn't do so. In fact, I sat down with them and discuss and also agreed on the findings. This is called discussion. What TMC was doing was totally of a kids' playfulness and mentality. He might know a lot (which to me he claimed to be since he was so loud) but this is definitely not the way to reply to someone he doesn't know and has no direct relationship with.
It is either he is doing it on purpose or he has serious problems on his writing. "It's your freaking lens", "Yeah, you hear it right the first time. It's your freaking lens." And he commented that it was his way of speech and style for "non-abusive" interaction -- What childish talk is this?
You have been following all my threads and I am sure you know what I am talking about. To make things worse, some of them even mock at me in some other threads along with another bunch of people (you guys know yourself). Yes, my skills are poor. I don't have the knowledge. But that doesn't mean that they could gather and mock at me like this. If I am so good, would I be here posting and asking questions? I would be a pro already. Especially when they even called names to the model as "bapok"! My goodness!
Let me quote you what one of my friends who is a full time professional photographer working in Amsterdam said, "Zec, stop wasting time in ClubSnap. Some people just don't have the correct attitude."
I am beginning to wonder too.
Thanks for reading.
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