Ricoh GR

[kelvinty]

D800E + Zeiss is sharper and wider

And about 7x more expensive and heavy than the GR+GW3. 7x better IQ? Naaaaaah... I'd grab the GR from the dry cabi for a casual shoot anytime.

 

[canbedone]

And about 7x more expensive and heavy than the GR+GW3. 7x better IQ? Naaaaaah... I'd grab the GR from the dry cabi for a casual shoot anytime.

thats why i am getting it hahaha, light weight and pocket size

 

[fengwei]

Want to see a showdown between the Zeiss 21mm 2.8 + D800E vs the Ricoh GR with 21mm converter?

See this post on Clubsnap.

Also, another comparison - this is the bottom right part of the picture (about 30% of the entire picture). Notice how the GR+GW3 sharpness and contrast is just a little worse than the Zeiss 21mm which is prob the best performing 21mm now. All said, i'd sacrifice a little drop in IQ for the pocketability of the GR, though I don't see myself using the GW-3 that much since it's a hassle.

And I think Ricoh is a bloody robber to make us buy the hood and adapter for close to SGD$90 just to use the GW-3 again. They are nothing but two pieces of plastic.

You can download the full pictures here for your comparison. GR + GW3 vs D800E + Zeiss.

Theses two photos seem were not taken from the same location? The Zeiss/E800 combo is just so much wider than the GR21 combo. From my own experience the GR21 is pretty wide, definitely as wide as the 14mm on our Pentax APSC (means 21mm equivalent FOV on full frame).

 

[fengwei]

New stocks in at Pentax 2U dot com Penang online shop, they send by POS LAJU Air Parcel from Penang.
Ricoh GR

Price isn't much cheaper if you don't count in the freebies (which the shop indicates only the first 30 buyers are able to get?). I'd go w the local set just to save the hassle.

 

[kelvinty]

Theses two photos seem were not taken from the same location? The Zeiss/E800 combo is just so much wider than the GR21 combo. From my own experience the GR21 is pretty wide, definitely as wide as the 14mm on our Pentax APSC (means 21mm equivalent FOV on full frame).

Same location (tripod and ballhead didn't move), but the off centre tripod mount on the GR means it might be a bit off, did try and match up my wimberley plate as much as possi le though.. However, it does really seem that the Zeiss is slightly wider.

 

[wonglp]

And I think Ricoh is a bloody robber to make us buy the hood and adapter for close to SGD$90 just to use the GW-3 again. They are nothing but two pieces of plastic.

Never been a fan of converter but the GW3 looks like a steal for it's performance even corners wrt to D800E+ZF21. ye, if you are not using GW3 it's probably not worth it just to buy and mount filters/hood on GH2...am so waiting for GR now...

 

[hjbyeo]

Same location (tripod and ballhead didn't move), but the off centre tripod mount on the GR means it might be a bit off, did try and match up my wimberley plate as much as possi le though.. However, it does really seem that the Zeiss is slightly wider.

I really don't think it's "that different".

 

[kelvinty]

Ya... it's almost impossible that the image on the left is with the GW3. I test my Canon 20mm and the GR 21mm. It's definitely not "that different".

Height of camera different. Lens nodal point different. Ideally one would readjust the second camera and line it up exactly. Too lazy to do so, just swapped cameras.

Download the jpeg and look @ the exit data. I'll do another test if you all want.

 

[kelvinty]

I really don't think it's "that different".

Lol same here, any differences are marginal. As stated, it's much cheaper and much more portable - that's good enough for me!

 

[pinholecam]

Want to see a showdown between the Zeiss 21mm 2.8 + D800E vs the Ricoh GR with 21mm converter?

See this post on Clubsnap.

Also, another comparison - this is the bottom right part of the picture (about 30% of the entire picture). Notice how the GR+GW3 sharpness and contrast is just a little worse than the Zeiss 21mm which is prob the best performing 21mm now. All said, i'd sacrifice a little drop in IQ for the pocketability of the GR, though I don't see myself using the GW-3 that much since it's a hassle.

And I think Ricoh is a bloody robber to make us buy the hood and adapter for close to SGD$90 just to use the GW-3 again. They are nothing but two pieces of plastic.

You can download the full pictures here for your comparison. GR + GW3 vs D800E + Zeiss.

It seems that they are totally different FL.
It seems that the GR is 1/8 less FOV. (so 23mm equivalent?? )

Not disputing the results, just interesting...

 

[fengwei]

Same location (tripod and ballhead didn't move), but the off centre tripod mount on the GR means it might be a bit off, did try and match up my wimberley plate as much as possi le though.. However, it does really seem that the Zeiss is slightly wider.

Looked at the full sized photos, they don't seem to be that much different, definitely not as different as what you showed in the cropped ones.

 

[kelvinty]

Looked at the full sized photos, they don't seem to be that much different, definitely not as different as what you showed in the cropped ones.

Quick n dirty job. If you want a full blown comparison the jpgs are there. Can even email you both the raw files and you can go through them.

 

[canbedone]

I get it its due to the position of the camera might be different one more to the right the other more to the left, wideness relatively the same, Nikon looks warmer, GR looks cooler

 

[PhilipKr35]

Ya, same price as local in the end, after add GST S$72.80.

Price isn't much cheaper if you don't count in the freebies (which the shop indicates only the first 30 buyers are able to get?). I'd go w the local set just to save the hassle.

 

[audreyJGJM]

To be frank, for such an attachment, the GW 3 is indeed very good on the GR.

 

[hjbyeo]

I am pleased with the GW3, and will use it for my landscapes whenever possible or appropriate. I am sure many of you are enjoying this combo. ;-)

GR + GH3 + GW3


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[felixcat8888]

I am pleased with the GW3, and will use it for my landscapes whenever possible or appropriate. I am sure many of you are enjoying this combo. ;-)

GR + GH3 + GW3


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The GR is getting to be pretty poisonous . . .

 

[agawads]

The GR is getting to be pretty poisonous . . .

It's becoming deadly poisonous... I m on the brink of succumbing to it... Sold the grd iv because of sensor size, now w aps-c... It's gorgeously attractive.

 

[dash7869]

It's becoming deadly poisonous... I m on the brink of succumbing to it... Sold the grd iv because of sensor size, now w aps-c... It's gorgeously attractive.

agreed - same case for me

 

[brandonkbk]

It's becoming deadly poisonous... I m on the brink of succumbing to it... Sold the grd iv because of sensor size, now w aps-c... It's gorgeously attractive.

Me three.