REVIEW: Olympus PEN E-PL2 - by ed9119
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Anson
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Wow.. 600mm HANDHELD without any "problem" hmm... maybe you are still young...
For me my longest setup is 200 x 1.6 x 2 = 640mm (35mm equivalent), it helps alot in my composition.
Lenses are not as "dumb" as you think... they are firmware upgradable too. :bsmilie:
For example the same generation Panny m4/3 using it's own kit lens have a general faster AF compared to the Oly with kit lens. This is achieve not only by the body but the lens as well.
Like I say, both technologies have their advantages and disadvantages and there are many field of debate on this.
Is the saving pass back to the consumer? My answer: Not Always... just look at the price of Sony lenses in SG to those of the same class of other brands.
Did TS (Thread Starter - Ed), asked the question? :dunno:
To Ed (TS), if you feel I OT too much on this topic do let me know....
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IS on body or on lens ..... I have no opinion.... its always turned off ... maybe the other mods who use IS can comment .... or maybe it deserves a thread on its own in General Tech Talk section
OK still raining this afternoon... brought the camera down to chinatown for a bit of a walkabout
OK still raining this afternoon... brought the camera down to chinatown for a bit of a walkabout
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I just read up about this red spot issue in the other forums ......I really dont know.... LOL :bsmilie: there has been no sun to speak of these few days and I rarely shoot backlit into a blazing sun
But I do have an 'Epic Fail' pic below from last night (my fault, not the camera's) which should simulate the sun . Handheld in absolutely miserable conditions
No Red anything spotted in or around the headlights.... a bit of flare maybe ..... which is expected on ANY camera/lens shooting like this
and the crop below
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gooseberry
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Would it be possible for one of the reviewers to post a landscape type photo with foliage, grass in the scene - taken at base ISO and with NR off (with the foliage/grass at a distance as in a fairly typical landscape type scene, ie not a close-up of foliage/grass) ? Some samples I've seen from the net shows very 'mushy' greens in the images (very reminiscent of some canon models which do similar on foliage/grass) - not sure if it's the noise reduction or not.
An example of what I'm talking about, from this review at ephotozine
http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/olympus-e-pl2-15470/images/olympus_epl2_colour.jpg
Notice the very 'mushy' grass in the scene - very digital and not natural looking (and this is at base ISO 200)
An example of what I'm talking about, from this review at ephotozine
http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/olympus-e-pl2-15470/images/olympus_epl2_colour.jpg
Notice the very 'mushy' grass in the scene - very digital and not natural looking (and this is at base ISO 200)
eh... som, the link don't work... :sweat:
anyway, as ed9119 said, there are a few of the mods running ard with the EPL-2 now... problem is that the sun is not cooperating. wait a bit, and we hope to update everyone soon.
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I did a little more googling about this 'red spot issue' because I was curious to know more from my cursory checks last night on the Net..... this phenomenons seems to be feedback by users over a whole range of camera brands and lenses and not just Oly
I'm not an expert in shooting blazing lights at high f stops so am in no position to comment further
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I should know. All the Oly ZD lenses are digital and hence firmware upgradeable. But I would rather keep as little technology out of the lenses and put them into the body as much as possible. IS technology is bound to improve with time. If u have IS in the lens, u have to change all your lenses if the IS technology improves and if u want to keep up. Whereas, u only need to change one body if u want the latest IS technology. U dun have to go and upgrade all your lenses.
As for shooting at long focal lengths, the longest on the ZD system is 300mm which is equivalent of 600 mm FOV. I shoot this focal length hand held as a routine. The only time when I shoot this on a tripod is when I slap on a 2x teleconverter and convert this to a 600mm with a 1200 mm FOV when I am shooting the moon....
Here is a shot at 300 mm (FOV 600 mm) - this is a OOC JPEG, uncropped and no other processing done.
Olympus E3, 300mm, 1/200s, f5.6, ISO 1600
PS. Maybe we should start another thread if we are going to talk about this more.....
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Anson
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Here is a shot at 300 mm (FOV 600 mm) - this is a OOC JPEG, uncropped and no other processing done.
PS. Maybe we should start another thread if we are going to talk about this more.....
This is a thread about EPL2, unless the above pix was taken by the camera with a 300mm lens I dun see the point of posting it in this thread...?????? :dunno:
Which would often confuse people who usually skips the text. :think:
Like I say... not all can hand-held in long focal length, and often the VR/IS on lenses does help... that it's Pros of the design...
Of course there are Cons as well... Remember there is always two side in a coin... no single brand/model camera is BEST for everyone... :bsmilie:
Anson
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No problem Ed, I would not comment on the above mention topic in this thread...
To Oly5050, if you wish to start a new thread on this... and let me know okie?....
Discussion well underway HERE in Clubsnap's Micro4/3 sub-section
great discussion thread above on Berkin's question
great discussion thread above on Berkin's question
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wow... looks great...
i promise to be a good boy...
cheers
banana
I would DEARLY love to see the Oly EPL2 in your wicked street-wise hands Banana
Agrivar
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Errr.... you DO know that the Panny 20mm doesnt have OIS right?
gooseberry
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eh... som, the link don't work... :sweat:
anyway, as ed9119 said, there are a few of the mods running ard with the EPL-2 now... problem is that the sun is not cooperating. wait a bit, and we hope to update everyone soon.
No worries mate, can wait. As for the link, think they have a referrer check to try and prevent hotlinking - can try this, right click on the link and copy the link, then open up a new tab/window and paste the link, the photo will load then.
Shot at wide angle before the other art filter images applied ... this is outside my home this morning around 8ish
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shot this afternoon around 6.30pm , apologies, I forgot to take a 'normal' pic thats why used this morning's image of same scene for a comparison
ARTmode on top dial
ISO200
Pop Art filter
Soft Focus filter
Grainy Film filter
Pin Hole filter
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shot this afternoon around 6.30pm , apologies, I forgot to take a 'normal' pic thats why used this morning's image of same scene for a comparison
ARTmode on top dial
ISO200
Pop Art filter
Soft Focus filter
Grainy Film filter
Pin Hole filter
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