[ Released ] - Panasonic GF1
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clubgrit
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That's me too, Azul ... need "shooting glasses". This is where the magnification comes in handy for manual focus, I can move my arms closer i.e. I can see :what:.
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lightsabre
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I think the AF assist lamp on the GF-1 and pop-up flash would make it more PnS like, expecially for taking snapshots in gatherings and social events. Some owners of E-P1 found it so difficult to focus in low light that they gave up doing party snap shots.
The pop-up flash is definitely not perfect ( with the guide number at 6@ISO100 instead of the normal 12@ISO100) and definitely does not meet the requirements of professional portait photography. However, if the new breed of m43 is aimed at bridging the gap between PnS and dSLR, it should first be a good PnS..... and all PnS have a popup flash for low light candids.
The AF speed of GF-1 of about 0.4s (on a beta unit, and may be closer to 0.35s in production) would also bring it closer to dSLR in terms of speed. The measured AF speed of E-P1 is around 1sec.
Having said all these, I think the E-P1's image quality is simply stunning, beating some entry level dSLR and equalling the very best in the segment. Good noise control in high ISO, excellent per-pixel sharpness and nice colors.
If I were to choose between the two, I may just go for the GF-1. Having owned the Sigma DP1/DP2 as well as the E-P1 before, both cameras of exceptional image quality but somehow a little slow on AF, I realized that sometimes speed and usability of a camera may be worth a slight sacrifice in terms of image quality. So while the E-P1 may be expected to edge out the GF-1 in image quality, speed and features of the GF-1 would swing my decision towards it.
Ofcourse, this is just my humble opinion, others would love the styling and image quality of the E-P1 so much they will never consider buying the the GF-1. Some others don't even use AF
The pop-up flash is definitely not perfect ( with the guide number at 6@ISO100 instead of the normal 12@ISO100) and definitely does not meet the requirements of professional portait photography. However, if the new breed of m43 is aimed at bridging the gap between PnS and dSLR, it should first be a good PnS..... and all PnS have a popup flash for low light candids.
The AF speed of GF-1 of about 0.4s (on a beta unit, and may be closer to 0.35s in production) would also bring it closer to dSLR in terms of speed. The measured AF speed of E-P1 is around 1sec.
Having said all these, I think the E-P1's image quality is simply stunning, beating some entry level dSLR and equalling the very best in the segment. Good noise control in high ISO, excellent per-pixel sharpness and nice colors.
If I were to choose between the two, I may just go for the GF-1. Having owned the Sigma DP1/DP2 as well as the E-P1 before, both cameras of exceptional image quality but somehow a little slow on AF, I realized that sometimes speed and usability of a camera may be worth a slight sacrifice in terms of image quality. So while the E-P1 may be expected to edge out the GF-1 in image quality, speed and features of the GF-1 would swing my decision towards it.
Ofcourse, this is just my humble opinion, others would love the styling and image quality of the E-P1 so much they will never consider buying the the GF-1. Some others don't even use AF
Bridgerock
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Yeah. Not sure if the retailers already have this camera. Just waiting to sell them. 
azul123
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wildcat
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I think the AF assist lamp on the GF-1 and pop-up flash would make it more PnS like, expecially for taking snapshots in gatherings and social events. Some owners of E-P1 found it so difficult to focus in low light that they gave up doing party snap shots.
The pop-up flash is definitely not perfect ( with the guide number at 6@ISO100 instead of the normal 12@ISO100) and definitely does not meet the requirements of professional portait photography. However, if the new breed of m43 is aimed at bridging the gap between PnS and dSLR, it should first be a good PnS..... and all PnS have a popup flash for low light candids.
The AF speed of GF-1 of about 0.4s (on a beta unit, and may be closer to 0.35s in production) would also bring it closer to dSLR in terms of speed. The measured AF speed of E-P1 is around 1sec.
Having said all these, I think the E-P1's image quality is simply stunning, beating some entry level dSLR and equalling the very best in the segment. Good noise control in high ISO, excellent per-pixel sharpness and nice colors.
If I were to choose between the two, I may just go for the GF-1. Having owned the Sigma DP1/DP2 as well as the E-P1 before, both cameras of exceptional image quality but somehow a little slow on AF, I realized that sometimes speed and usability of a camera may be worth a slight sacrifice in terms of image quality. So while the E-P1 may be expected to edge out the GF-1 in image quality, speed and features of the GF-1 would swing my decision towards it.
Ofcourse, this is just my humble opinion, others would love the styling and image quality of the E-P1 so much they will never consider buying the the GF-1. Some others don't even use AF
I think this sums up the difference for people choosing the E-P1 and GF-1 very well. One man's meat is another man's poison. Another issue is the in-body IS and in-lens IS. I would like the best of both worlds but that doesn't exist, and my own personal preference is also for faster AF (which is why I'm using a G1
)I think this sums up the difference for people choosing the E-P1 and GF-1 very well. One man's meat is another man's poison. Another issue is the in-body IS and in-lens IS. I would like the best of both worlds but that doesn't exist, and my own personal preference is also for faster AF (which is why I'm using a G1
My sentiments exactly :thumbsup:. It's always better to dive into a camera aperture wide open knowing its limitations than fantasizing about extra features. Once you know what you can live with and what you cannot, the rest are just icing on cake and matters little.
I could live with the noticeably slower AF and preferred the styling so it's E-P1 for me even now.
microcosm
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The focal length is kind of turn off... dunno how to use this lens... neither here nor there... you will know when the lens is out.
clubgrit
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The GF1 is interesting too. It has its own strengths, one I like is the dial working for both magnification and exposure, definitely for better shooting when using manual lenses, no need to jump from one dial to another as in the E-P1, and no need to take off eye from viewfinder. Wonder how is it's ISO performance.
Hmm ... may have to find a way to buy the GF1 body, I need to replace my 10 year old video camera that still uses tape anyway
(found an excuse). It should be cheaper than a real video camera I think ... only thing is that my 10-year old video camera kills these cameras for anti-shock, IS, VR.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PanasonicGF1/
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Hmm ... may have to find a way to buy the GF1 body, I need to replace my 10 year old video camera that still uses tape anyway
(found an excuse). It should be cheaper than a real video camera I think ... only thing is that my 10-year old video camera kills these cameras for anti-shock, IS, VR.http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PanasonicGF1/
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Really? How many compact 35mm cameras, including those from Olympus came with a 38mm lens? Plenty, as I recall.
An effective 40mm seems just enough to get a small group without struggling and the f/1.7 means that you can do it reasonably with candle light, such as taking birthday cake photos. The older you get, the better your chances to get a properly lit shot lah.
I think the 20mm f/1.7 will be a great lens, especially if it has high image quality to match the price.
microcosm
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I have never used a 38mm lens since I never really liked this focal length. 35mm was my "standard lens" in my film days, 20mm was my favourite wide. So 40mm (in 135 format) is really a weird focal length for my style of shooting, but like you mentioned, everyone shoots differently. I just either go tele or pretty wide, nothing between 40-85mm.
wildcat
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Not quite the party animal huh?
I am guessing it will be the party animal's fav lens or maybe just normal outings where one needs a fast lens and can move around to take snapshots of people. I think a bit more versatile than Oly's 25mm pancake. Factor in the f-stop and definitely more versatile.Not cool to bring an E-P1 with Godzilla lens to one of these, ya know. Heh.
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raymondluo
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The GF1 is interesting too. It has its own strengths, one I like is the dial working for both magnification and exposure, definitely for better shooting when using manual lenses, no need to jump from one dial to another as in the E-P1, and no need to take off eye from viewfinder. Wonder how is it's ISO performance.
Hmm ... may have to find a way to buy the GF1 body, I need to replace my 10 year old video camera that still uses tape anyway
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PanasonicGF1/
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It doesn't lock in shutter speed during movie mode though, which is the only thing that makes me want the GH1 body only. (If it sold with the 20mm pancake that be great to- just not the 14-140mm)
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DMCGF1/DMCGF1A.HTM
Personally prefer the 17mm as well. Since 35mm film days, my favourite FL had been 35mm. Free from distortion and wide enough to shoot from the hip. Can use something a bit brighter though, e.g. a 17/1.4 would be perfect.
I don't get what you mean,is there even a rumour? Either way,E-P1's 14-42 has no IS but still can be use on the GF1 because it uses the same mount
E-P1 uses sensor shift IS.. but GF1 uses Lens shift Mega-OIS..
so i lose IS when mixing these two items..
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