how many lenses u see in the pics are still in production... ? showing a bunch of discontinued lenses does not tell ppl we have lots of lens options... its just tell ppl about ur lenses collection...
u want to dispel the misinformation... should post how a DA16-50 can perform, how a 50-135 can perform, how a DA12-24 can perform etc...
In my humble opinion, pinholecam was just trying to get the ball rolling amongst PENTAXIANs to showcase their lens collection to viewers ( potential converts / new DSRL users ) that with PENTAX, they have the option of using both old manual lens ( some which can be 20yrs old ) or / and modern lens ( i.e. F, FA, DA ), not forgetting that users can even use third-party lens, some of which can be obtained at very attractive prices. This by itself means that users have wider choices.
As things turn out, the majority of lens in pinholecam's collection are manual discontinued lens ( that is personal preference ). The lens may be discontinued, but importantly they are still available internationally.
I wonder if your comments would have been any different if the thread were started by some senior masters with a sizeable collection - manual and automatic.
To further illustrate the point about choices, with the recent influx of new PENTAXIANs, we witnessed a recent demand for 50mm lens. Now users have a choice between autofocus lens such as the FA50 f/1.4 ( for those with no budget ) , or manual lens such as K, M, or A, 50mm F/1.7 or even f/2 . ( there are pictures available to show result from these lens ). Also with the 85mm, not everyone has the budget for the 85mm F/1.4 or FA 85mm F/1.4 or FA77 Limited. But there are options such as the M 85mm F/2. Then there is the choice between FA31mm Limited and FA35mm F/2. Other options would be the third-party brands.
For me, Manual lens will be used in situations where I have all the time in the world to focus on the subject ( and the subject will not charge me on an hourly basis

), while autofocus will be applicable for situations where time is of the essence, or when holidaying.
If viewers find that this thread does not add much value, over time it will be forgotten, just like so many others.
To pharaphase the words of Paramount Chinese Leader Deng XiaoPeng : DON'T BOTHER WHETHER IT IS A MANUAL LENS ( discontinued or not ) OR A MODERN LENS, AS LONG AS IT ASSIST IN PRODUCING A GOOD PICTURE, IT IS A GOOD LENS. :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie: