Pana FZ18 user!!! Come in here!!!
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skyguy
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i got mine at about $600 during april, now i think is about the same price but more freebies...
more like can use filter... i won't like to use the word lens, coz might confuse some people, lens is like for DSLR like when the say wat 10 - 18mm
didn't photoshop any effect, just add border and signature
not sure if u can see the noise, it can be retify by using longer shutter speed, for this shot i did not use very long shutter speed
more like can use filter... i won't like to use the word lens, coz might confuse some people, lens is like for DSLR like when the say wat 10 - 18mm
didn't photoshop any effect, just add border and signature
not sure if u can see the noise, it can be retify by using longer shutter speed, for this shot i did not use very long shutter speed
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skyguy
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not bad an idea... Fz28 is actually quite similar to but better version of Fz18
hkingx
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=x but must wait till end of this month for my paid. =.= what' rating u give for your FZ18? ?/10
skyguy
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=x but must wait till end of this month for my paid. =.= what' rating u give for your FZ18? ?/10
haven't really try many camera, but will give it 8/10
Seasonizer
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hey hkingx ... 100 diff ??... so how much alan shop quot u for fz -28?
with only 4gb sd hd + case ?
with only 4gb sd hd + case ?
I made this decision before. I ultimately chosed FZ18 because I was able to get it cheaper than the 8100. If you want it cheap, go for the 8100, however the FZ18 is better in a lot of ways. In fact I feel that the FZ18 is amongst the top of all the equivalent prosumer zooms, heres why, please contradict me if you feel that its necessary.
Biggest Aperture F2.8-4.2, most others start at F3.1 - 5-ish.
Longest focal length of 504... not like 18mm matters much but... FZ28 has only 486 (darn!) but the wide angle starts at 27mm... (I don't see a difference really, 1 step back. But you don't always get to take 1 step forward when you zoom.).
Battery Power. Most websites agree that FZ18 has 4 hours of battery life, the rest have about 3 hours, S8100 has 2 hours but uses AA batteries.
About the noise, I heard reviews that FZ18 is slightly better than others, although the difference is almost insignificant I believe. Actually I am starting to get used to the noise, just over expose 1 step in most cases can help a lot.
Leica Lens. the only one that come close might be Sony's H9 or H50? (I think so at least, I'm not very familiar with lens but I know Leica is good.)
What else is there to talk about? I think S8100 has no RAW format, neither does it have 16:9 aspect ratio, I can't remember now and I'm too lazy to check.
But at this moment you might want to be looking at FZ28 if you feel a little richer.
As for your question about the nightshots. I did one this morning, I don't know how to post images here and the images are on my personal blog so I shall not share for this moment. But the noise is bearable at 400. ISO 800 is still bearable if you have no choice, but you definitely can't afford to under-expose. Keeping in mind that this is without using Noise Reduction. I usually photoshop a little when the pictures are good and definitely saves the day. Plus noise at 400 is not really visible below 66% zoom. If you view on a 1024x768 screen, the standard size you're viewing is 16.7%, don't think you'll see the noise. =)
And I shot a lot of shots handheld at 1/4, ISO400, 4am this morning. I'm surprised that I didn't get blurring!
But truth be told, the noise issue can be irritating to me, but live with it unless you are willing to buy a camera 5x the price. dSLR that is. OR unless zoom is not important to you.
I hope this helps you! Not very well written and not very proficient language, but I tried. =X
hkingx
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hkingx
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woah, thanks alott. s8100 only last for 2hur?? so little huh. But s8100 has better noise reduces right? when taking night photo.
From what I know, not true. Its the F series (Fujifilm) that has the "Super CCD", its only those cameras what have very good ISO settings, at least thats how they sell it. The S series uses the normal sensors.
I think according to Camera Labs (www.cameralabs.com), their testing finds that FZ18 is the better one. Contrary to what most people will tell you.
Anyway, just to conclude, the FZ18 is unfortunately also the most expensive in the range. It used to be 100 dollars more than the Olympus, Nikon and other equivalent models. Maybe now with the FZ28 out, its more even.
Also the S8100fd has the telephoto aperture at a max of F/4.5 ... 0.3 less than the FZ18, probably 1 step down in shutter speed. I don't know if thats important for you but I like big apertures a lot.
I just realized, 8100 has 10mp. The one I was looking at last time was 8000 with 7 or 8mp only but really cheap, you can get brand new at 430. Though I got my FZ18 at 400 brand new ^^
MidasTouch
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nly re-sizing for posting purposes. 
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MidasTouch
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Thank you.
Yes ,ISO 100.
I'm still learning der.Wish to join those photographer out there.But using my camera is abit awkward compare with DSLR.:embrass::embrass:
Yes ,ISO 100.
I'm still learning der.Wish to join those photographer out there.But using my camera is abit awkward compare with DSLR.:embrass::embrass:
Seasonizer
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Nice Panorama ...
Btw how to u do a Panorama ? like how to shoot? how u break estimate to break up the pictures to join them up ?
Btw how to u do a Panorama ? like how to shoot? how u break estimate to break up the pictures to join them up ?
Yes I agree! I wanted too.
Actually even when I take people on the streets, I don't feel good either. I think if someone shoots you with a dSLR you won't mind but a SLR-look-alike... err.
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As for the panoramic shots, I usually use photoshop, create a new image and make it very long, maybe like 15000 x 3000 pixels. Then copy all 3-4 pictures in (I would also shoot them in 16:9). Set the opacity of the top layer to maybe 50% (your own comfort) and try to match up the pixels. Then just hit Ctrl+E which will merge it to the bottom layer. If you didn't take them perfectly, just transform them or do a little adjusting of your own and clip off the top and bottom edges that don't match. =X
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Anyway does anyone have experience with FZ20? I feel like getting a second hand one for low-light uses. Has constant F2.8, but I'm guessing that the noise control won't even match the FZ18.
Anyways I got my little flickr up, I'm not very proud of it yet, neither are they my best shots but if you guys wanna take a look go ahead, I'm up for comments and critques, hope to learn! (Actually I take a lot of random shots and try to make some sense out of them so... urm.) Don't expect too much out of a 6 weeks old photographer!
MidasTouch
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Very easy.You must use manual setting.Everything no change on the setting.Even a small tilt will spoil whole process.Only allowable movement is the horizontal movement. Once you think the few shots will make up panorama.Use Panasonic software to stitch the photo.
sengkangboy
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not sure if this is already mentioned. Where can i get add ons for my FZ-18 ah ? and what can i get ? i am a beginner photgrapher
What are you looking at?
If lens, you need an adapter first, I recommend getting the original DMW-LA3, buy it from ebay, the Japanese companies ships fast, got mine in 3 days. About 60 dollars. shipping included.
Filters, just go down to the camera shops and get 46mm or 55mm. I don't recommend using step rings, causes barrel jams and vignetting.
You just bought an FZ18?
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