OMG! Look at the EM-1 aka the now official E-M1 Thread

[tomboy87]

More reviews here
http://www.tvsmith.my/new-olympus-om-d-em-1/

 

[Alphonse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESOj56fWB8Q

 

[ageha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESOj56fWB8Q

Thanks for the link!

 

[NazgulKing]

Everything I've read about the 12-35mm said that it was equally unremarkable. My first impression was that they were great US$750 lenses, except that they were twice that much. I kind of figured by a filter size of 58mm (vs 77mm on the ZD 35-100mm f/2.0) that the lens was average at best. Somehow, I've got some good low light sports photos with the combination, but they're not incredibly better than the E-5/ZD 35-100mm f/2.0 combo. It's just that the GH3 will work a little easier in lower light.

Had I not bought the GH3, I'm sure I'd be buying an E-M1 now. I think I'll wait for the next one.

Olympus might deliver the optical goods, but judging from their financial performance, they are obviously going for lower margins on the lens and body pricing than they ought to be to stay profitable.

As always, there are 2 driving factors for lens design: Cost and Performance. No point giving top performance and charge too low only to run into issues with profitability.

 

[wackykid]

Maybe because Sony is the largest shareholder of Olympus?

looks like amazon removed the sony banner already... probably someone used the same templete (which was used for sony products) to create that page and forgotten to remove the sony banner... :bsmilie:


regards,
wacky

 

[wackykid]

Right. I put the numbers together over in the pricing thread and the E-M1 is almost the same, except for the grip, as the Panasonic GH3, which I'm finding to be a bit small, especially for use with the ZD 35-100mm f/2.0. The 35-100mm f/2.0 isn't particularly big when you look at the 90-250mm f/2.8 and the 300mm f/2.8 which others might have. Of course, those are meant to be used with a tripod, whereas the 35-100mm can be handheld. I photograph basketball with it.

just a thought... perhaps EM-1 could more be a replacement for the FT users (rather than to attract pro users on APS-C/FF DSLRs)...? afterall it's a "bridging camera" for the current users on their FT cameras who have existing FT lens and are targeting to downsize (not necessarily downgrade) their arsenal..? olympus perhaps hoped that this group of users will eventually be convinced of "lighter (and smaller) is better" and will eventually convert their gear to pure m43...?


regards,
wacky

 

[semajm85]

interesting thought, i had this exact same thought too, that this was meant for 43 users. it is a great upgrade from the E5........

 

[ageha]

looks like amazon removed the sony banner already... probably someone used the same templete (which was used for sony products) to create that page and forgotten to remove the sony banner... :bsmilie:


regards,
wacky

I think they have a more sophisticated system for placing the ads.

 

[semajm85]

i swear....the more i read the more i feel GAS setting in...LOL

 

[Errz]

once you done reading.. u might want to watch some video :bsmilie:

[video=youtube_share;HcNW-OFLFj8]http://youtu.be/HcNW-OFLFj8[/video]

 

[semajm85]

once you done reading.. u might want to watch some video :bsmilie:

[video=youtube_share;HcNW-OFLFj8]http://youtu.be/HcNW-OFLFj8[/video]

i hate you sooooo much

 

[Johnbon]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ESOj56fWB8Q

Hands on review. MFT camera have to reduce their price cos a lot apsc csc to choose from now. MFT sensor will always be at disadvantage so make cheaper to Make it more attractive. Is like pricing apsc & ff camera around the same price.

 

[Errz]

i hate you sooooo much

u r welcome :bsmilie:

 

[maldito]

how is the 12-40 paired with em5?

 

[Hitman]

Having gone through the previews and reviews... I think I like this camera... BUT I'll stay with my E-5 until it is not working anymore... or unless someone wants to buy my E-5!

Money is one reason, the other reason is (for me), size does not matter. I've been comfortable with the E-5, and I already own the E-M5 for whenever I want to travel light. Guess I'll wait for the EM7...

 

[ed9119]

Clubsnap laid its hands on the EM1 a couple of weeks ago and could not say anything due to gag order

1. the pre production moel looks alot sleeker and prettier
2. with the 2 dials on the top deck, one of the unique features is that I'm able to dedicate the dials to hue and saturation .... fine tuned funny colors at finger tips but more importantly.... we could tweak hue and saturation via these dials to get various renditions of B&W output which is also reflected in the LCD screen and the viewfinder ..... this could open a whole new world in the B&W digital photography genre
3. yeah grip's a little deep but now super stable AND the grip material is alot more sleek vs the mock up photos above
4. wifi enabled and enhanced to allow other camera adjustments via smartphone which is a huge leap forward vs first generation wifi enabled cameras

We'll be getting a few sets and setting up a few molest outings with the camera and the new zoom .... so look out for the news !

 

[bousozoku]

Olympus might deliver the optical goods, but judging from their financial performance, they are obviously going for lower margins on the lens and body pricing than they ought to be to stay profitable.

As always, there are 2 driving factors for lens design: Cost and Performance. No point giving top performance and charge too low only to run into issues with profitability.

You mean higher margins, don't you? Olympus charge far too much for average lenses in micro Four-Thirds. The ZD 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 (SWD or not) is a bargain compared to micro Four-Thirds.

just a thought... perhaps EM-1 could more be a replacement for the FT users (rather than to attract pro users on APS-C/FF DSLRs)...? afterall it's a "bridging camera" for the current users on their FT cameras who have existing FT lens and are targeting to downsize (not necessarily downgrade) their arsenal..? olympus perhaps hoped that this group of users will eventually be convinced of "lighter (and smaller) is better" and will eventually convert their gear to pure m43...?


regards,
wacky

They've been trying to get away those still using the E-1/E-3/E-30/E-5.

The E-M1 was meant to work for them, for me. Unfortunately, reports say that the auto focus with Four-Thirds lenses is not good. I already have the GH3 which will auto focus my Four-Thirds lenses but only if I have time to wait. I was never one to use auto focus with the E-1, so why worry about it?

The size of the E-M1 is reasonable, but it's just not a substitute for a proper Four-Thirds body, unfortunately. I should have switched to Nikon in late 2011 before buying an E-5.

 

[ageha]

I should have switched to Nikon in late 2011 before buying an E-5.

Obviously

 

[Agrivar]

The E-M1 was meant to work for them, for me. Unfortunately, reports say that the auto focus with Four-Thirds lenses is not good. I already have the GH3 which will auto focus my Four-Thirds lenses but only if I have time to wait. I was never one to use auto focus with the E-1, so why worry about it?.

From videos on the web, it seems the EM1 focuses the 4/3 lenses as fast as the E-X DSLRs.. go take a look..

 

[NazgulKing]

You mean higher margins, don't you? Olympus charge far too much for average lenses in micro Four-Thirds. The ZD 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 (SWD or not) is a bargain compared to micro Four-Thirds.

I think I really meant lower profits for the higher spec lenses. Sorry. But it seems they are charging more for the average lenses. I seem to recall and note that the older FT high end zooms used to cost as much as their FF equivalents from other companies. But here we are, and Olympus seems to be asking for lower prices. Olympus tends to overspec their higher end lenses to get out better image quality (the 75/1.8 has actually a larger effective field of view hence a larger image circle). While that is good, it means the costs go up accordingly.