kel77
Senior Member
Unfortunately it seems that new toys suffer such quirks even from other camera brands.
If you prefer higher reliability always get those that are more matured.
OMG! Look at the EM-1 aka the now official E-M1 Thread
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Unfortunately it seems that new toys suffer such quirks even from other camera brands.
If you prefer higher reliability always get those that are more matured.
tomcat
Senior Member
What is these 2 images supposed to show?I find that the lens IS really sucks big time! Not just on 35-100 but other lenses too!
U can view at at full res:
35-100 IS on
35-100 IS off
That the image without IS looked sharper than the one with IS?
If so, then you are saying that Panasonic's lens OIS is shitty, right?
How about comparing with both lenses' OIS off and the E-M1 body's IS on and off to check on the effectiveness of Olympus' built-in 5-axis IS?
Anyone with both E-M1 and E-M5 realise that E-M5 sensor perform better in low light compare to E-M1? I did a search on the net and realise I'm not the only one having this issue. Even at ISO 800 there is so much noise in dark spot of the picture compare to E-M5 with the same setting. I really wonder is it build this way or I have a faulty unit..
microcosm
Senior Member
Likely a setting issue. I hope it is not a lemon. I have not noticed this on mine. And I have both cameras.
At 1st I thought so too. But after I tried changing the setting for Noise Reduct. and Noise Filter on both EM1 AND EM5. It seem to me that the noise is a lot more on EM1 when compare with EM5. I'm not sure whether is it becoz my eye identify noise in the wrong way.
Top E-M1
Bottom E-M5
Both shoot with 12-40mm ISO 2500
With Noise Reduct. and Noise Filter Off
Top E-M1
Bottom E-M5
Both shoot with 12-40mm ISO 2500
With Noise Reduct. : Auto
Noise Filter : High
Did I miss out any setting?
microcosm
Senior Member
Bro, it saddens me to tell you that you might have to take the print out of the above images and make a trip to the Olympus Service Center. If possible, demand for a new camera, not lens. Something is definitely very wrong here.
That is assuming that sharpness, contrast and color settings are set to "0" for both cameras and they are both shot in the same mode.
Check your EXIF if the shutter speed is between 1/30 - 1/160 sec. Your set might be suffering from a case of the "shutter shock". Show them the photo and get the engineers there to check, and if they are not sure of what it is, time to request for a new camera.
At the meantime, using the same above setting, but mount the cameras on a tripod, turn OFF IS on both cameras and shoot again. See what happens.
That is assuming that sharpness, contrast and color settings are set to "0" for both cameras and they are both shot in the same mode.
Check your EXIF if the shutter speed is between 1/30 - 1/160 sec. Your set might be suffering from a case of the "shutter shock". Show them the photo and get the engineers there to check, and if they are not sure of what it is, time to request for a new camera.
At the meantime, using the same above setting, but mount the cameras on a tripod, turn OFF IS on both cameras and shoot again. See what happens.
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Shouldn't be like in your case. In worst case, the IQ is still comparable.
U should visit Oly or if u r too busy now, my suggestion is to email the issue and attached photos and Attn to Donald from Olympus SG.
Send to : Tech_support.oisp@olympus-ap.com
Bro thought shutter shock cause blurness, his is like noise profile being worse off on the em1????
I already sent an email to Sg Olympus. Maybe I will do a factory reset and test it out again tomorrow after I'm back home from work. Haiz, so suay. 4D didn't tio but tio this type of thing. LOL!
Btw the photo shutter speed is at 1/320. Shutter shock will only affect shutter speed between 1/30 - 1/160 sec?
Btw the photo shutter speed is at 1/320. Shutter shock will only affect shutter speed between 1/30 - 1/160 sec?
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microcosm
Senior Member
No official word on the supposed "shutter shock", so this is all guess work. The blurriness of the shot made me notice more than noise issue you mentioned. That is why I am guessing that it might have to do with the "shutter shock syndrome" mentioned on forums here and elsewhere. So far, me and another member in this forums tested our set and we did not notice this on our sets so we are all trying to replicate this issue.
When you are back, factory reset your camera, then turn IS to "OFF" and shoot again, with support (tripod mounted) and see what happens again. Shoot at ISO 200 and 800 and 3200. Post 100% crops like what you did above and let's see what we get.
Kept bugging at my conscience but maybe weekh was facing issues similar to Stargaz3r but it just wasn't communicated clearly for us to understand or help much. Apologies if we didn't help out enough and even though u've decided to sell the EM-1, i do hope that u take up MFT one day again.
Windballad
Member
Any of u guys experienced laggy fps on the LCD and EVF when using c-af+tr mode?
microcosm
Senior Member
Yes, it will drop the fps down quite a bit when shooting in C-AF+TR mode.
microcosm
Senior Member
Looks like the 12-40Pro manufacturing cannot keep up with the demand.
http://www.43rumors.com/olympus-12-...s-are-alreayd-shipping-in-us-amazon-and-ebay/
Those who are still waiting for "lens only purchase" might have to wait for a little while more.
http://www.43rumors.com/olympus-12-...s-are-alreayd-shipping-in-us-amazon-and-ebay/
Those who are still waiting for "lens only purchase" might have to wait for a little while more.
silver blade
Member
Just curious to know if Olympus Sg has replied and what do they plan to do about it?
tomcat
Senior Member
Actually it looked to me like the shots taken with the E-M1 were not properly focussed and are therefore soft. Just compare the pupils in the eyes of the toy in the 2 shots.
microcosm
Senior Member
I was looking at the "rope" thing underneath the chin. Looks like that was the focus point. Hmmm...
Windballad
Member
Ahhh I see... Thought I over stressed my camera so quickly when I only used it for my first event.. hahaha
tomcat
Senior Member
Either way, to be comparative, the same points in both images should be in similar focus if we are to discuss the issues properly. Perhaps the lens in question has a back/front focussing problem though Olympus lenses are generally not prone to such problems unlike Sigma lenses. At least I have not encountered any Olympus lenses with such problems. In any case, I believe the E-M1 does has a micro-focusing adjustment function built-in, or so I'm told.
