Old/alternate lenses, adapters, and lens mount conversions.

[tony_teo]

I am using Tagotech's adapters, with AF confirmation. They are pretty accurate and are selling only at S$ 50 each. Check with them. Cheers.

This was shot on my OM 50f1,4 with a Tagotech's adapter on my EOS 5d at F8.

Thanks, looks good.

 

[ManWearPants]

Totally agree that CY 50/1.7 is a champion both wide open or stopped down. What happened to TS, not posting anymore?

@ f8

 

[Ben Ang]

i've had 3 exams and a paper to write this week. abit busy. haha!

anw, here's some i ve dug up, both converted to nikonf F and shot with a D200

Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 SSC.

All str8 out of camera, no adjustments, but converted with nikon view. the SSC gives very very warm, nice tones. i believe all shot at 1.2. i din have much time with this lens so this is about all i ve got.

And it non SSC coated version a little less sharp and contrasty, but has more 'bite' in black and white

extension tube, f/2

 

[giantcanopy]

I visited your website. There is this of the MBS which you mentioned tilt shifted panorama. How do you do this? I also noticed that you do horizontal tilt more than vertical tilt. Is the former more pleasing than the latter. I have rather disastrous attempt on TS. No one seems to like the effect produced by vertical tilt. :dunno:

The MBS shots are all done with horizontal tilt.

The reason why i tilt along the length of the panorama is because my Mirex adapter is made that way, i cannot do a vertical tilt while shifting perpendicular axis.
But with the newer Canon TSEs that allow independent movement, it will be great.
( The older TSEs and Nikon's current PC/PCE lenses can have their axises modded with some handiwork i believe )
I do make a couple of tilts in vertical orientation, depends really.
A small vertical focus on a large panorama seems to loose focus easily. not too sure, i haven gotten a chance to try so.

Ryan

 

[giantcanopy]

Introducing the Mamiya 50mm f4 shift
( sorry for the various badly taken shots )

Here is the Mamiya 50mm f4 shift on my Mirex T/S adapter. Even though the lens is pretty heavy, the Mirex adapter holds it quite well
No automatic aperture on the setup which is to be expected really.
Light falloff is extreme at extremes of shift. Double shift with the Mirex to the extreme is not useable. Lens itself shifts 15mm to edge, the Mirex adapter makes another 15 mm shift giving a theoretical 30mm either ways which is huge. But practically speaking, I will only go up to 25mm max in total. I usually centre the lens unshifted and shift to the maximum on Mirex, then extend the shift on the Mamiya to add on if any.

Ok at f4, but shines at f8 +. For tilt at f4, sharpness is satisfactory, the 85mm f2.8 PC is a little better wide open

Here is a quick and dirty pano of my neighbourhood, which is what you get at full shift on both adapters and the lens. I have not had a need to do such a long pano so far.

True value of setup is it allows independent shifts when the lens and the mirex adapters are fixed with their shift axes perpendicular : eg, you can shift by a certain amount on x axis and a certain amount on y axis.

Here is a recent example taken in Macau:
I was a little too positioned to the right, and i shifted horizontally leftwards to centre on the scene, and an upward shift to align the tower

As like the other old Mamiya lenses i tried adapting for tilt shots, they typically produce softer oof blur compared to my previous experience with Nikon 85mm PC and 24mm PCE.

 

[ManWearPants]

Introducing the Mamiya 50mm f4 shift

Wow...this is insane, the world's first tilt shift shift lens. :bsmilie: :thumbsup:

 

[Anthony Lee]

giantcanopy,

So, the mirex acts both as an adapter for Mamiya's 645 lenses as well as tilt and shift. How is the quality compared to the Canon latest versions, especially the 24 tse.

 

[ManWearPants]

Another of those very sharp lens with great colour rendering.

Leica Vario-Elmar-R 35-70 f4 @ f8

cropped above bottom left

 

[Anthony Lee]

Another of those very sharp lens with great colour rendering.
Leica Vario-Elmar-R 35-70 f4 @ f8

How is this compared to the Zeiss CY 35-70f3.4? The recent posts at FM capturing the fall colors are exceptional. If you still have this lens, will like to test it against my OM 35-70f3.6 one day.

 

[ManWearPants]

How is this compared to the Zeiss CY 35-70f3.4? The recent posts at FM capturing the fall colors are exceptional. If you still have this lens, will like to test it against my OM 35-70f3.6 one day.

I think the CY has better contrast and more 3D but I read that it is sharp only after stopping down to f5.6-f8. I have not handle it before. This L/R is sharp wide open. Furthermore, it is a 2 touch zoom. Unfortunately, I sold it as I think the 2x zoom is a bit restrictive and f4 is not wide enough at this focal length for generating bokeh for the times when you need it. It is just a very sharp and lightweight lens.

 

[giantcanopy]

Wow...this is insane, the world's first tilt shift shift lens. :bsmilie: :thumbsup:

Hahah. fixing the Mamiya FE on the Mirex makes it one of the first Tilt shift fish eyes too.
Me actually thinking of fixing a shift adapter on the Mirex but limited by funds for now :bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:

giantcanopy,

So, the mirex acts both as an adapter for Mamiya's 645 lenses as well as tilt and shift. How is the quality compared to the Canon latest versions, especially the 24 tse.

Yes as an adapter that does tilt and shift on the relatively larger image circle of the Mamiya lenses. Although i have not tried the new canon ones before, I would think the digitally optimised latest versions to be better then these oldies la. but oldies got character and dun hurt my wallet too much. Stepped down they work great, shift and tilt more than canon/nikon's offerings.


Ryan

 

[ManWearPants]

Hahah. fixing the Mamiya FE on the Mirex makes it one of the first Tilt shift fish eyes too.
Me actually thinking of fixing a shift adapter on the Mirex but limited by funds for now :bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:

Ryan

The Mirex adapter seems quite thick. Any infinity focusing issue?

 

[giantcanopy]

The Mirex adapter seems quite thick. Any infinity focusing issue?

No. Mamiya M645 lenses are focused to infinity. The M645 has a much longer flange focal distance than the Canon, hence a thicker adapter. Canon has a lesser flange focal distance compared to Nikon, thats why the German company managed to make it for Canon and not the F mount.

Ryan

 

[ManWearPants]

No. Mamiya M645 lenses are focused to infinity. The M645 has a much longer flange focal distance than the Canon, hence a thicker adapter. Canon has a lesser flange focal distance compared to Nikon, thats why the German company managed to make it for Canon and not the F mount.

Ryan

Why did you choose the Mamiya over the Pentax version? Is it because you already pre-own some lenses or there are some advantages of the Mamiya.

wow...this Mirex T/S adapter damn expensive man...EU400. How long did you wait from order till delivery? I read that it can take as long as 6 weeks?

Hahah. fixing the Mamiya FE on the Mirex makes it one of the first Tilt shift fish eyes too.
Me actually thinking of fixing a shift adapter on the Mirex but limited by funds for now

How does a 24mm MF fisheye looked like on 35mm DSLR compared to the normal 16mm? less distorted?

What do you mean by fixing a shift adapter, doesn't it already come with tilt and shift??

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found a russian manufacturer Arax but the price states N/A. not sure if it is still in production.
http://araxfoto.com/accessories/shift-mamiya/

There is another one from Zoerk or Zork.
http://www.zoerk.com/pages/p_pshift.htm

I know the Mirex is German made and probably best of the lot. But have you done any comparison before?

 

[Anthony Lee]

Yes as an adapter that does tilt and shift on the relatively larger image circle of the Mamiya lenses. Although i have not tried the new canon ones before, I would think the digitally optimised latest versions to be better then these oldies la. but oldies got character and dun hurt my wallet too much. Stepped down they work great, shift and tilt more than canon/nikon's offerings.


Ryan

Hi Ryan,

The Mamiya MF range has some very good macro lenses, like the 80f4 and 120f4. Apart from Mirex, are there other adapters that can be used on Canon FF without tilt and shift.

 

[giantcanopy]

Why did you choose the Mamiya over the Pentax version? Is it because you already pre-own some lenses or there are some advantages of the Mamiya.

wow...this Mirex T/S adapter damn expensive man...EU400. How long did you wait from order till delivery? I read that it can take as long as 6 weeks?

I got the Mamiya mainly because Mamiya offered the widest focal length at 24mm. The manual focusing Hasselblad i heard did not carry such a wide focal length. And Mirex did not have a Pentax version then - I heard the pentax 35mm is pretty stellar.

I waited only less than 2 weeks because they had one in stock. I think it is a small company so during the holidays they go on leave u have to be expected to wait quite a while. Dun buy just before your trip - buy way in advance first when i got my Mirex adapter it costs me a little less than 300 euros I think. Zork also inflated their prices grossly after the downturn.

How does a 24mm MF fisheye looked like on 35mm DSLR compared to the normal 16mm? less distorted?

What do you mean by fixing a shift adapter, doesn't it already come with tilt and shift??

It looks like a half cooked corrected rectilinear lens unshifted on a 35mm format. But here is how it looks when fully stitched shifted from end to end.

The Mamiya 24mm FE is a very sharp old lens, the CA on the sides can be easily fixed post processing.

I wanted to fix a Pentax 67 to Mamiya M645 shift adapter on my existing Mirex so i can have independent shift axes, and no more vignetting issues on full shift with my Mirex. ( not all Mamiya lenses can tolerate a 15mm shift to the edge ) but the price of the Zork adapter will set me 2k SGD ... a little pricey for a little gadget for a little hobby.

found a russian manufacturer Arax but the price states N/A. not sure if it is still in production.
http://araxfoto.com/accessories/shift-mamiya/

There is another one from Zoerk or Zork.
http://www.zoerk.com/pages/p_pshift.htm

I know the Mirex is German made and probably best of the lot. But have you done any comparison before?

Only the Mirex offers tilt and shift in one piece. The Zork contrapture is abit more complicated and you need at least two pieces to come up with tilt shift and the lenses are a little complicated - and each of the pieces cost more than Mirex. I know of a person who has it but i think too tedious and bulky to use. The arax one is often mentioned in other forums, u can try buying from ebay. Their tilt adapter i think is fixed, pretty useless for me.

Hi Ryan,

The Mamiya MF range has some very good macro lenses, like the 80f4 and 120f4. Apart from Mirex, are there other adapters that can be used on Canon FF without tilt and shift.

Offhand I think Fotodiox and Zork makes them, and probably some Russian adapters. The Zork ones are particularly expensive though.

Ryan

 

[ManWearPants]

GiantCanopy,

Thanks for explaining. The cost of the adapter is on the high side though the M645 or P645 lenses could be had for reasonable prices. This is an interesting option.

 

[giantcanopy]

The Mamiya 35mm f3.5
( Again coupled with the Mirex t/s adapter )

Easily my favourite most used lens, light and rugged.

Very soft oof areas when tilted compared to the newer digital lenses, but not exactly the sharpest Mamiya that i have, works great when stepped down to 5.6 and beyond

Street shooting

T3

Moeraki sunrise

Somewhere in the middle of the cold Matheson Lake

Akaroa tilt shifted stitched pano

 

[ManWearPants]

Ryan,

Very nice. Someone once commented in an old thread that I posted that tilt effect is a novelty to a new user of T/S lenses and once it wears off, brings nothing to the picture if it is not to align to the plane of focus. You have obviously used it to great effect here. I should picked up my T/S lens and try again.

 

[giantcanopy]

Ryan,

Very nice. Someone once commented in an old thread that I posted that tilt effect is a novelty to a new user of T/S lenses and once it wears off, brings nothing to the picture if it is not to align to the plane of focus. You have obviously used it to great effect here. I should picked up my T/S lens and try again.

To be fair, even with t/s lenses, bulk of the shots are not the toy shot type la. I often use the shift for the simplicity in making pano, and the tilt to extend dof on landscapes. But on and off i do take quirky shots.

yours is a 24TSE ?

ryan