I can't quite find the word for this but I would say you are a Backstroke Nikon fan.
Official Announcement of Nikon Df
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I can't quite find the word for this but I would say you are a Backstroke Nikon fan.
This is a wise product decision by Nikon.
I think a lot of thought and market research went into it.
I think it looks good.
Checked CNet website and if they are correct, then this sports an optical viewfinder - that means it has a mirror.
Hopefully the screens can be user-changeable too and one can buy and insert a split image screen.
Not more fumbling around with "focus peaking" or back-focusAF problems.
You get EXACT focus confirmation on MF setting with a split image and large aperture lens (no darkening of the split image).
The target market is the millions of users who still keep their manual focus Nikkors.
No video? Too bad.
D4 sensor? - That's good.
The price is high. Would be nice if it was $1,500.
I think a lot of thought and market research went into it.
I think it looks good.
Checked CNet website and if they are correct, then this sports an optical viewfinder - that means it has a mirror.
Hopefully the screens can be user-changeable too and one can buy and insert a split image screen.
Not more fumbling around with "focus peaking" or back-focusAF problems.
You get EXACT focus confirmation on MF setting with a split image and large aperture lens (no darkening of the split image).
The target market is the millions of users who still keep their manual focus Nikkors.
No video? Too bad.
D4 sensor? - That's good.
The price is high. Would be nice if it was $1,500.
PhilipKr35
Senior Member
Looks huge on these ladies ! but 710grams ? so light for the size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up52HiQK-yE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up52HiQK-yE
You are wrong about one thing. Even with a split prism, there can still be back or front focus problems. The only way to solve back or front focus problems on a split-prism, or diamond prism, is to add or remove shims from the screen assembly. It can be a pain.
BTW, the specs already say the Df's screen is not user replaceable. But we all know we can DIY like all the cameras before it, but it might void any warranty...
The ladies are very petite la. :bsmilie:
ageha
Senior Member
You needed to consult "CNet" to figure out it has a mirror?
Blur Shadow
Senior Member
The Df Looks big...
Buy a 35mm film SLR camera...pure photography for a poor man.
A D3200 is probably cheaper after you factored in a couple of rolls of film.
You needed to consult "CNet" to figure out it has a mirror?
Yes. Nikon has been giving mysterious videos and not saying things clearly. Maybe they think this will stir interest in the DF like a strip tease.
But it is basically very poor public communication. Nikon has failed badly in this aspect.
You're right. I think the PRC factories will come out with something, complete with shims provided.
GReddyZC76
New Member
a new VW beetle will never be the same as the original VW beetle.
there are in different class anyway.
So you see, those who want this camera, are not just want a camera, they want something more, some thing that you can not find in D4, D800/E or D600, so it is unfair to make such comparison.
Agree!
Look at porsche 911. For over past 50+yrs. Design of 911 still havent change. Whaaa
jeff7id
Senior Member
NIKON Df vs NIKON D610
They look like siblings, don't they ?
Nikon Df dimensions: 143.5x110x66.5 mm (body only, excluding protrusion).
Nikon D610 dimensions: 141x113x82 mm (body only, excluding protrusion).
I just realized that pure photography do not need built-in flash, hence Df is only 3mm shorter than D610.
Image courtesy of camerasize.com
They look like siblings, don't they ?
Nikon Df dimensions: 143.5x110x66.5 mm (body only, excluding protrusion).
Nikon D610 dimensions: 141x113x82 mm (body only, excluding protrusion).
I just realized that pure photography do not need built-in flash, hence Df is only 3mm shorter than D610.
Image courtesy of camerasize.com
ageha
Senior Member
Not really.
tofu master
Member
Now......will there be a retro body with aps-c sensor....? If it's about the same price with D7100 that'll be more within budget
photo-orama
New Member
I don't understand how you came up with this being "wise", and that they have done "a lot of thought and market research"... As you said, the price point seems to be wrong (though I doubt that they would have priced a new FF at $1,500
).. there goes the market research.. we have been able to use manual Nikon lenses or Nikon Digital FF for like forever (not sure if any Nikon FF has any limitations).. unless of course you are referring to pre-AI lenses.. but would there be a huge market for pre-AI lenses? I doubt it..
diediealsomustdive
Senior Member
I don't understand how you came up with this being "wise", and that they have done "a lot of thought and market research"... As you said, the price point seems to be wrong (though I doubt that they would have priced a new FF at $1,500
If the price point seems wrong to you then the clear conclusion is that you are not the target audience. As would those who cried ugly and those who doubt there's market for pre-Ai lenses. The marketing point is who will buy Df, and those with a few pre-Ai lenses from the "good old days " who now should be cash rich and sentimental about yesteryears. Not young "punks" who go waaaa with Sony A7, for example.
The price point includes a D4 sensor. From that perspective it's cheap.
I would say, front and top looks retro, rear doesn't look any retro to me. the MSAP knob & triangular loop strap maybe oddly placed, maybe slightly uncomfy with the index fingers during (half)pressing the shutter release. But the more I look at it the more I grow into it. Tempted though. 
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photo-orama
New Member
... I am not young, but feel young.. But anyway.. the market will decide whether the price point is right or wrong.. whether including a D4 sensor is the right choice, if indeed is what pushed the price high..
Possible, so you are saying its created for a few (I hear you).. I (take note: I) feel Nikon lost the chance to push the envelop at this point.. Maybe they created another S3-2000, nice and limited for a few (then its not for me, I admit that, I have become a practical person as I season through the years!).... Thus we therefore agree (I think) that this camera is not a D3, which is what put Nikon back on the map, or a D3s which is what pushed Nikon further ahead, and hopefully is not an oily D600 or the left side of D800 which is what troubled Nikon fans (me inclusive)...
Why I "waaa" (!)
with Sony A7??.. because its a game changer (anyone can see that I think).. Nikon missed it with the 1 series and whatever they created there.. Just like Nikon missed it with the P series when competing with the Canon G series and they are still playing catch up in that market... Time will tell... a camera for a few, or a camera that pushes the envelop? I am disappointed not because it looks ugly or its thin, I am disappointed because it offers nothing new! What a missed opportunity!Similar threads
