'No Photography' Plz...

[yeobt]

i will not give in for shooting if i know and am sure i'm not in someone's property.
i always contest my right of photography in public places and i really hope all of us do,
so that we can carry on our hobby without disturbance.

remember, there's NO LAW for photography in public area. you can shoot all you want.

 

[TheQuestion]

so....the law is killing street photography then in a sense?

its not the law. its over zealous security and property owners.

 

[shiruikage]

i will not give in for shooting if i know and am sure i'm not in someone's property.
i always contest my right of photography in public places and i really hope all of us do,
so that we can carry on our hobby without disturbance.

remember, there's NO LAW for photography in public area. you can shoot all you want.

its not the law. its over zealous security and property owners.

sooo....technically speaking we 'can' stick up our finger and continue shooting? hmmm..... wouldn't want to be arrested under ISA lor...

 

[vince123123]

Heheh, well for this case, it isn't really about the law but merely testing their resolve. I have prevailed many times even when I know the law does not really favour me, through well reasoned questions and being firm.

If based strictly on the law, we first need to find out whether the sidewalk area is public or private property. Also, whether the national library is considered public or private property. Anyone with some insight could share with us so that we can acceleerate the learning process for everyone (because I can't be checking everything everytime )

update us please.

i guess it's good someone like you can educate us on photographer's rights to shoot...
if any at all in the first place...

 

[TheQuestion]

sooo....technically speaking we 'can' stick up our finger and continue shooting? hmmm..... wouldn't want to be arrested under ISA lor...

maybe for istana or parliament building. if its private property but in an area where public can access its semi public and therefore private property does not apply. they got no right to stop you.

 

[TheQuestion]

Heheh, well for this case, it isn't really about the law but merely testing their resolve. I have prevailed many times even when I know the law does not really favour me, through well reasoned questions and being firm.

If based strictly on the law, we first need to find out whether the sidewalk area is public or private property. Also, whether the national library is considered public or private property. Anyone with some insight could share with us so that we can acceleerate the learning process for everyone (because I can't be checking everything everytime )

It's a PUBLIC library. so u say le?

 

[shiruikage]

that's what i thot. for obviously security conscious areas...but the way security guards act, its like the road side plant is a national security issue!

 

[TheQuestion]

that's what i thot. for obviously security conscious areas...but the way security guards act, its like the road side plant is a national security issue!

sometimes its better not bother fighting and just leave. look at the situation and see. also if its an interior and they said its private or copyrighted that is bullshit coz like a stair well is indistinguishable so that will not fly.

 

[TheQuestion]

i will not give in for shooting if i know and am sure i'm not in someone's property.
i always contest my right of photography in public places and i really hope all of us do,
so that we can carry on our hobby without disturbance.

remember, there's NO LAW for photography in public area. you can shoot all you want.

i want to see the chinatown vendors kenna from this because its like they think they own the street.:thumbsd:

 

[Canonised]

Someone should do up an online petition to the Ministry of Arts ....
how do you expect a nation to be artistic when everywhere is "NO PHOTOGRAPHY" area?

 

[vince123123]

I give you two thumbs up (I've only got two thumbs, else I'd give you more) for standing up for what you believe in and not letting people walk over you.

We have too many pple here in SG who do not stand up for themselves

If you all tend to shoot there again, do give me a call - I'll be glad to assist anyway I can

In fact, if that happens to you again ,tell that guy that his photo will be posted on the Internet for all to see! HAHAH

This is my story .... :cry:

Last week, 1 moller and 6 shooters at Esplanade Walk, more precise, at the food stalls area. But because it was 9-30 AM, no stalls were open for business and the whole place was deserted. This is the area where we posed the moller ...

Out from nowhere this Boy Scout came out and started chasing 6 adults away with his "lawyer" English about they can't allow people to shoot at the whole Esplanade area (i.e. including the whole 2 durians and all the area surrounding them). I remember 3 weeks ago i was with Mike's group (more than 9 shooters and 5 girls) and we were shooting IN the entrance hall of the theatre and the few guards didn't trouble us at all. In fact they asked the shooters to continue shooting! - those members can confirm if they are reading this.

Then one of us started explaining that we didnt write in for permission as required by him because we are hobbyists, and he mentioned that we joined the shoot from Clubsnap.
Somehow, he seemed to be very familair with Clubsnap and started insisting that he can't allow CS organised shooters here, blab, blab, blab ......

Since we didnt find that place particularly interesting and also not to spoil our mood, we decided to walk to the padang instead.

Then when we were at the walk, with those little concrete shops, I asked the moller to stand by the side wall for a couple of shots.


I was caught by surprise that he actually followed us and walked more than 300 metres to chase us again!

At this point of time, it's obvious that I have lost my kool and we were at a shouting war ... the organizer then pacified me to kool down and asked that we continued the shoot at the padang.
I knew that if I continued then either the managers or the Police will be called in.
Anyway, i have seen enough of these little rascals, abusing their authority and stroking their ego on being a "eat sh1t" Singaporean. How stupid is this idiot to stop us Singaporeans from shooting in a public place where there are thousands of tourists and local?
I gave him a final shot (above) and challenge him to come and get me!

I can only say little boy, Rohuan, if you are reading this, you are such a #%^^*(^%#

 

[vince123123]

Security guards have NO jurisdiction as far as national security issues are concerned. Hence they have no right trying to bring in their own definition on what national security is about nor can they cite terrorist concerns to try to stop you from photography.

that's what i thot. for obviously security conscious areas...but the way security guards act, its like the road side plant is a national security issue!

 

[TheQuestion]

Security guards have NO jurisdiction as far as national security issues are concerned. Hence they have no right trying to bring in their own definition on what national security is about nor can they cite terrorist concerns to try to stop you from photography.

to be fair they are also just doing their jobs...if anything i blame the management for doing a half assed job of briefing the guards. also for that case won't they have police or soldiers guarding the place instead of private guards?

 

[Canonised]

I give you two thumbs up (I've only got two thumbs, else I'd give you more) for standing up for what you believe in and not letting people walk over you.

We have too many pple here in SG who do not stand up for themselves

If you all tend to shoot there again, do give me a call - I'll be glad to assist anyway I can

In fact, if that happens to you again ,tell that guy that his photo will be posted on the Internet for all to see! HAHAH

thanks Lawyer !
Like our MM, maybe next time I go shooting in public i bring along my lawyer Vince, bodyguards, bankers, etc....:bsmilie::sweatsm:

 

[Gizmore]

really.... hai......

 

[yeobt]

sooo....technically speaking we 'can' stick up our finger and continue shooting? hmmm..... wouldn't want to be arrested under ISA lor...

ISA dont apply that way lah. dont worry.

well, i was once stopped by a TP for shooting an accident scene. he wanted me to delete
the pic i took which i refused. i than wrote in to MHA and TP to clarify if taking photo in
public places is not allowed. i received an apology call from TP name jason a week later.
i was reaffirmed by jason that photography is allowed and always do in public places even
if is an accident scene as long as we are not in the way of their officers investigation.

 

[shadowpartner]

It seems that foreign people never get scolded.
Uniquely Singapore.

 

[yeobt]

i want to see the chinatown vendors kenna from this because its like they think they own the street.:thumbsd:

i will come back to post 2 emails exchanged i had with STB and chinatown street stalls
community pertaining to the above. i'm rushing out now. srry.

 

[TheQuestion]

i will come back to post 2 emails exchanged i had with STB and chinatown street stalls
community pertaining to the above. i'm rushing out now. srry.

positive response from them i hope.

 

[danielli]

I was there at circle 3 too last friday.


And I got the same treatment as the person you mentioned!

There's really a double standard in SG. :thumbsd:

today on ST. :embrass:

Why double standards on taking photos at Esplanade?

I WAS at the Esplanade last Friday evening to see the musical Cats. During the intermission, some members of the cast, dressed in cat costumes, came off stage and mingled with the audience, many of whom were children. Many cast members posed for photographs with them. This was not an isolated occurrence throughout the theatre area.
I thought this was a unique part of the overall experience.

However, when I was taking a photo of a few cast members with some of the audience, an usher came up to me and curtly told me not to take photos.

My surprised and automatic response was: 'Everyone else is doing it.' But she raised her voice and said: 'No flash.' I was bewildered and a little upset at her response.

I have a few questions:

- Is the Esplanade management practising double standards? Although a sign outside the theatre said 'no photography or video recording', certain members of the audience were allowed to do so, particularly those in more exclusive seating.

- Is that particular Esplanade usher, among others, inadequately trained? Why did she address patrons in such a rude manner without sufficient explanation?

- Is photography allowed during the intermission or after some performances?

- If it is allowed, why does the use of flash during the intermission matter? And again, why are some people allowed to do so but others prohibited?

I hope my experience at the Esplanade will not be marred in this fashion in future. There is little reason to spend a considerable sum to have an otherwise pleasant performance spoilt by such an incident.

Do Su Ern