Nikon D800 arrival

[Nikkornos]

Hello Guys

For those who are venturing into digital MF system, please have a look at Nikon's latest offering the D800.
The pixel count, Nikon's firmware on NEF, the picture is comparable only with high-end medium format digital equipment.
What is more attractive is the price only at $2,999. I am glad I read the news because I nearly obtained a D700.

At 36.3MP the D800 offers a pixel count that rivals medium format on paper, but its sister model the D800E presents a much more serious challenge, boasting the same pixel count but without the stock D800's optical low-pass filter (otherwise known as an 'anti-aliasing' filter). This will have a significant boost of the pixel.

To properly utilize the D800, the lens resolving capabilities need to be considered.
The current offering of DX lines or traditional zooms may not be able to full take advantage of this new resolution.

The D800 introduction may push up the prices of the classic Nikkor AFD/AIS prime lenses.
The sharpest lens with great resolving power is none other than the Nikkor 55mm F3.5 micro AIS.
(currently only usable on D60, D700, D90, etc). I am glad I kept all the old AFD and AIS lenses well.

I have a bad feeling with Nikon D800, not about the camera itself though.
I finally see a D cam that may convince me to use less film.
Since 1999 until now, at 2012, technology has changed much.

 

[Nikkornos]

More information, read Ortega's review.

Also, Nikon D800 Preview: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review

 

[Shadowleong]

Not sure if cramming megapixels = medium format

But the price point is sure attractive if you're comparing it to the current offerings.

 

[Nikkornos]

Not sure if cramming megapixels = medium format
But the price point is sure attractive if you're comparing it to the current offerings.

The new sensor is making use of the latest wafer etching technology developed in Europe.
The sensor manufacturing is now much more advanced, at wafer level approaching 40nm, that is almost the wavelength of light.

That means, it may approach the true resolution of film at 135mm, minus the noise.
Nikon firmware in camera algorithm has produced NEF files that are state of the art in colour rendition.
Even the D40x days already Nikon got it right.
What I am saying is, this seriously obsoletes many 645 D cams. And how ridiculous some of them are priced at.

Look at the sample test shots from the prototype D800.

DSC07338: dpreview review samples: Galleries: Digital Photography Review

 

[Nikkornos]

Lua Lua, this camera is serious. Have a look.

 

[ericcf]

I m buying this d800 for sure.. Ask so many shop but currently not able to pre order..

 

[Nikkornos]

No hurry, wait. The quality of the images smokes a lot of old big guns. Its worth waiting for.

 

[Shadowleong]

This is not the only camera without an AA filter, Wonder how this compares to the Sigma SD1

 

[Nikkornos]

As long as Sigma still stick to their own lens mount, this will be another failure.

Today, Sigma has to compete with Nikon D800.

The SD1 Merrill is an old camera strictly speaking.
The Fuji X10 can do a better job.

 

[lualua]

Lua Lua, this camera is serious. Have a look.

This is definitely good news for professional photographers who needs to blow up their work without blowing up their bank account or blowing away their clients if they have to pass the equipment cost to their customers.

The D70 you sold me years ago(if u still remember) has produced very nice coffee table books(12x14inches) and my current D90, which is used mainly for indoor studio family(baby) portraits, has been serving me well and I will be very happy with it for at least the next 3 to 5 years. Pass me a D800 and I'll curse it for eating up my harddisk!

My passion lies in seeing black and white images appearing from a sourish concoction under dim red lightings on bromide paper.

I think you know what i mean bro

Dinosaur in the making? kakakaka

 

[Shadowleong]

Thats how I feel about the SD1 too. I actually like the output of feveon sensors but the deal breaker is the lack of support for lenses,
Pretty funny how they stubbornly stick to their own mount when they already are making canon/nikon mount lenses.

Not very sure about the technical specs but the SD1 is 46mp divided by 3 so we are not really comparing apples and apples right?

Nikon is making a great move, since the SD1 is priced at 3300USD

 

[Nikkornos]

Viewing from the computer screen, a Nikon D40x or D60 more than does the job.
I still use the D60 like a FM2, mounting AFD or AIS lenses for street shots.
For many, D90 will more than serve the purpose.

Nikon transfer is easy. Just click and walk off.
I see people spend so much time trying to post process shot by shot, and the output sucks. A bit sadomasochist.

I sold away my D90 for the D700, but just before I was going to pick up the D700, the D800 arrived.
This helps because I am going the Ji Lin China this coming autumn.
I agree that large pixels can be a problem. (32G card only can hold about 300 NEF files!)
But when it comes to cropping, it helps (like 6X6 can always crop to 645).
The latest D800 sensor is also closer to film when it comes to dynamic range.

Age is catching up. Focusing, exposure determination, composing, etc are getting slower.
You are right, nothing beats traditional dark room. When is your darkroom ready?

Recently also made a few coffee table books from Photohub. Scanning from film still beats D cam pictures, as of now.

 

[Nikkornos]

Thats how I feel about the SD1 too. I actually like the output of feveon sensors but the deal breaker is the lack of support for lenses,
Pretty funny how they stubbornly stick to their own mount when they already are making canon/nikon mount lenses.
Not very sure about the technical specs but the SD1 is 46mp divided by 3 so we are not really comparing apples and apples right?
Nikon is making a great move, since the SD1 is priced at 3300USD

Sigma ripped so many off by the first SD1, now they lower the price so much.
Its like spending SGD$140,000 buying a Japanese car, and then end of the year COE drop to $50 again. :angry:

 

[genobee kai]

okay, so the D800 has 36+ MP now..., but on the other hand, can anyone say for sure the clarity and details are in medium format territory? I agree its rather impressive though, it used to be cramming more megapixel = more noise, but this doesn't seem the case

Also, lens quality utilization? Sensor size impact on image? A lot of people use medium format because the bigger "film size" and "bigger" lens deliver clarity in details. I'm not sure if we have seen the clarity of medium format being married with the speed of SLR.

I did saw the kimono image on the nikon site though, impressive.

But I'm sorry, I still think medium format has the edge in clarity of details.:embrass:

 

[wootsk]

Viewing from the computer screen, a Nikon D40x or D60 more than does the job.
I still use the D60 like a FM2, mounting AFD or AIS lenses for street shots.
For many, D90 will more than serve the purpose.

Nikon transfer is easy. Just click and walk off.
I see people spend so much time trying to post process shot by shot, and the output sucks. A bit sadomasochist.

I sold away my D90 for the D700, but just before I was going to pick up the D700, the D800 arrived.
This helps because I am going the Ji Lin China this coming autumn.
I agree that large pixels can be a problem. (32G card only can hold about 300 NEF files!)
But when it comes to cropping, it helps (like 6X6 can always crop to 645).
The latest D800 sensor is also closer to film when it comes to dynamic range.

Age is catching up. Focusing, exposure determination, composing, etc are getting slower. :think:
You are right, nothing beats traditional dark room. When is your darkroom :think:ready?

Recently also made a few coffee table books from Photohub. Scanning from film still beats D cam pictures, as of now.

:think: D800, scanning, D and lots of mp...
Vege bird better stays out of this, nothing good will come out from it...

 

[Nikkornos]

But I'm sorry, I still think medium format has the edge in clarity of details.:embrass:

Are you referring to the mf digital back?
Pentax 645D and some D backs I have already used, not convincing.
Since the film days, already found that 645 has no real advantages in doing jobs compared to matured 135 system.

By physics I agree the size of 135 format is small. However, the new sensor is of new technology.
The 14-bit A/D conversion is capable of producing low noise images with a wide dynamic range.
It also allows ISO 50 all the way up to 25,600, great for demanding usage.
The Nikon NEF processing software is easy to use.

I am waiting for the test comparison between the D800 and the D Hasselblad.
I would expect the Hasselablad to have an edge. If not, then it is really very bad news for many people.

 

[lualua]

my darkroom is actually up already...

Viewing from the computer screen, a Nikon D40x or D60 more than does the job.
I still use the D60 like a FM2, mounting AFD or AIS lenses for street shots.
For many, D90 will more than serve the purpose.

Nikon transfer is easy. Just click and walk off.
I see people spend so much time trying to post process shot by shot, and the output sucks. A bit sadomasochist.

I sold away my D90 for the D700, but just before I was going to pick up the D700, the D800 arrived.
This helps because I am going the Ji Lin China this coming autumn.
I agree that large pixels can be a problem. (32G card only can hold about 300 NEF files!)
But when it comes to cropping, it helps (like 6X6 can always crop to 645).
The latest D800 sensor is also closer to film when it comes to dynamic range.

Age is catching up. Focusing, exposure determination, composing, etc are getting slower.
You are right, nothing beats traditional dark room. When is your darkroom ready?

Recently also made a few coffee table books from Photohub. Scanning from film still beats D cam pictures, as of now.

 

[Nikkornos]

Good morning! Call you later

 

[wootsk]

Are you referring to the mf digital back?
Pentax 645D and some D backs I have already used, not convincing.
Since the film days, already found that 645 has no real advantages in doing jobs compared to matured 135 system.

By physics I agree the size of 135 format is small. However, the new sensor is of new technology.
The 14-bit A/D conversion is capable of producing low noise images with a wide dynamic range.
It also allows ISO 50 all the way up to 25,600, great for demanding usage.
The Nikon NEF processing software is easy to use.

I am waiting for the test comparison between the D800 and the D Hasselblad.
I would expect the Hasselablad to have an edge. If not, then it is really very bad news for many people.

14 bit greyscale sensor???
:think:

 

[Tachyon]

The sharpest lens with great resolving power is none other than the Nikkor 55mm F3.5 micro AIS.

Can you please refer me to the source for this so that I can read more? Thanks!