Nikon D50

[xtemujin]

Jeet

Thanks for the heads up bro.

What's the price like for CP ?

 

[MichaelLee]

how much more to buy the 55-200mm as a bundle package ?

 

[faisalee]

MS, AP quoted $1500 for the kit inclusive of GST. No free gifts.
Max quoted $1699 for the kit, bag, 1gb sd card (normal speed).




Also avoid the one besides AP (Square video) in sls.

Hey Jeet,

Good job getting the quots man I saw D50 yesterday at Max Photo it was looking cool but couldnt hold it in my hands as the shop was already closed !

 

[mpenza]

MS Colour's stock came in yesterday I think. They have a few sets.

 

[mohgui]

Any free gifts ?

sorry for the late reply... but i think don't have.

 

[Luval]

SD card not that popular .. and problematic .. imagine ..... this scenoic. eg . can i borrow ur cam to shoot ... alamak... you use Sd card... i cant use ur cam lah.. all of us uses CF card.. and you cant borrow card from other pple cos most slr uses CF card ,... .. any way . D50 look too patheic to be Slr .. hope it doesnt have so much problem vs the D70.. it a flop

 

[xtemujin]

Mohgui,

Thanks for the Info bro.

Luval,

No worries, the use of the Portable storage device(PSD) has made it possible to use both memory card whether SD or CF.

Both the D70s and D50 are entry level DSLR and are good to go for it's targeted market.

HTH.

 

[espn]

Yup... SD not being too common in DSLRs aren't really a worry, the D50 is targetted at those with SD cards (ie, digital camera users).

 

[Xtrahot]

What is the fuss over SD cards?

Doesn't everyone know that there are adapters to convert SD cards to CF format for SGD 45? :dunno:

Doesn't everyone know that the write speed of the camera is the limitation now when you buy a high speed SD card (not extreme versions)? :dunno:

Doesn't everyone know that there are 2 GB SD cards available? :dunno:

Doesn't everyone know that there are no pins in the SD format to bend? :dunno:

I guess not. :embrass:

This reminds me of the film vs digital arguements. Each have their advantages but ultimately, usability and flexibility will win out.

If anything, the SD format is more flexible as one can use a cheap adapter to covert the SD card to the CF format. Try doing it the other way.

If I were starting my memory card collection today, it'll be pure SD.

Xtrahot
don't know what the fuss is about

 

[espn]

What is the fuss over SD cards?

Doesn't everyone know that there are adapters to convert SD cards to CF format for SGD 45? :dunno:

Did you also know majority of these converters won't work with most of the DSLRs?

Doesn't everyone know that the write speed of the camera is the limitation now whne you buy a high speed SD card (not extreme versions)? :dunno:

Incorrect. It's also limited by the speed of the media as well.

Doesn't everyone know that there are 2 GB SD cards available? :dunno:

I guess not. :embrass:

I don't think everybody knows and due to investments already in place with their CF cards, switching to SD is not a good choice to spend money. Thus their concerns.

 

[F2000]

Sooner or later, storage format will shift to smaller form factor. When the first generation palmtop computer comes out (e.g. HP 95LX), it uses PC cards. Nowadays, almost every PDA switched to SD cards. Even quite a few notebook computers has built-in SD card slots. Early digital camera actually use PC cards as well. However, for now, most of the consumer to prosumer Digital camera are using SD/XD cards, only a few still have CF slots.

I believe the trend will continue and SD will become the main stream storage card format replacing CF. I have three different types of cards for my gadgets - CF, SD, memory stick. It is not ideal, but will live with it.

 

[shutterbug]

Actually, CF has hit or almost it's speed limitation. It's capacity is also limited. SD on the other hand is designed to be more secure and has lots of room to grow in both speed and capacity. The SD market has grown and expanded faster than CF, last and this year. Almost everybody is betting on SD as the future format, of course CF will also stay on for a long time.

 

[espn]

Actually, CF has hit or almost it's speed limitation. It's capacity is also limited. SD on the other hand is designed to be more secure and has lots of room to grow in both speed and capacity. The SD market has grown and expanded faster than CF, last and this year. Almost everybody is betting on SD as the future format, of course CF will also stay on for a long time.

Limited? CF has storage up to 8GB and 16GB IIRC. Where got limited in capacity. The speed is already very fast also, don't really think it's that limited in capabilities.

 

[Xtrahot]

Did you also know majority of these converters won't work with most of the DSLRs?

Not the cheapo one I have. If they can get it right for cheapo card readers. I can't for the life of me imagine how the manufacturers can screw up the adapter. :dunno:

Incorrect. It's also limited by the speed of the media as well.

I see no difference in speed between the write speed on a good (not the best) CF card and a good SD (not the best) card with an adapter on a D70. Call me crazy. :dunno:

I don't think everybody knows and due to investments already in place with their CF cards, switching to SD is not a good choice to spend money. Thus their concerns.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I too have investments in plenty of CF media. But times change. Digital photos are not better than film but we change and progress for convenience. But that does not mean SD media is somehow inferior to CF. That perception is incorrect.

Xtrahot
don't know what's the downside

 

[espn]

Not the cheapo one I have. If they can get it right for cheapo card readers. I can't for the life of me imagine how the manufacturers can screw up the adapter. :dunno:

It's nothing to do with the cheap or expensive, I also have card readers, they can read the cards, but the adaptor itself must be able to be used by the DSLRs themselves. Converters don't always work everywhere.

I see no difference in speed between the write speed on a good (not the best) CF card and a good SD (not the best) card with an adapter on a D70. Call me crazy. :dunno:

That's because the speed is standard on the average cards, try a fast one like Lexar 80X vs a Kingston normal card and you'll see the difference.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I too have investments in plenty of CF media. But times change. Digital photos are not better than film but we change and progress for convenience. But that does not mean SD media is somehow inferior to CF. That perception is incorrect.

Nope! Nobody claimed SD was inferior to CF, it's just basically the size and commoness of it for DSLRs nowadays. Given the D2X just annoucned it's encryption with Lexar new secure media, CF will be here for quite some time.

I also have SD card. I use it for my CoolPix 4600.

 

[tao]

SD card not that popular .. and problematic .. imagine ..... this scenoic. eg . can i borrow ur cam to shoot ... alamak... you use Sd card... i cant use ur cam lah.. all of us uses CF card.. and you cant borrow card from other pple cos most slr uses CF card ,... .. any way . D50 look too patheic to be Slr .. hope it doesnt have so much problem vs the D70.. it a flop

flop? i think you are misinformed, saying it will be a flop before anyone lays his hands on one.

 

[Xtrahot]

It's nothing to do with the cheap or expensive, I also have card readers, they can read the cards, but the adaptor itself must be able to be used by the DSLRs themselves. Converters don't always work everywhere.

I would venture to guess that most people just care whether their cards/adapters work on their own cameras. :dunno:

And besides it's a matter of time before these adapters work out the kinks like first generation card readers. Yes there was a time when they cost SGD80+ and did not work on all cards.

That's because the speed is standard on the average cards, try a fast one like Lexar 80X vs a Kingston normal card and you'll see the difference.

I see do diff between the CF Lexar 80X and SD Kingston High Speed on a D70. :dunno: There is an extreme version for both CF and SD from Lexar that I have not played with.

Nope! Nobody claimed SD was inferior to CF, it's just basically the size and commoness of it for DSLRs nowadays. Given the D2X just annoucned it's encryption with Lexar new secure media, CF will be here for quite some time.

Problematic cannot share (like it matters), not as fast (see posts above). Just because we dont say something is inferior outright. Doesn't mean it's not implied is so many other ways. Either way I'm doing what you are doing espn. Setting the record straight.

I also have SD card. I use it for my CoolPix 4600.

That's the point who doesn't. If SD media is going to be common place, the media is going to get the bulk of R&D dollars. That means better adapters, larger capacity cards, yada yada yada.

CF is not going to die. But SD has an infinitely brighter future (see applications in posts above) and can be converted into CF format (if not easily today it will be soon).

So if I had a fresh start, I would choose.........

Xtrahot
obvious isn't it?

 

[Xtrahot]

flop? i think you are misinformed, saying it will be a flop before anyone lays his hands on one.

Oh you'd be surprised how defensive people can get about what they have now vs anything new and improved (not always though). My film slr is better than your digital slr. Remember those arguements?

We live in a different world now people. The only constant is change. Don't dismiss anything before trying it out. You'd miss out all the best parts of life. Don't assume you have a monopoly on wisdom just because you know a thing or two. A closed mind aquires no knowledge.

Xtrahot
the older I get the more I know I don't know much

 

[xtemujin]

I have accepted the fact that there is no one memory card that will be good to go for the industry. Therefore, like many others here, we have SD, MS, CF memory cards.

The PSD is the "multi plug" for the memory card in my humble opinion.

However, I do not think that it is a good argument that you will not use the D50 as a secondary camera as it uses SD card as you have a large CF collection. The PSD changes everything.

That is my 2 cents.

HTH.

 

[wrx_sti_22b]

Right now the fastest SD card is the A-Data 150X http://www.adata.com.tw/en/products-f-card-sd2.htm , faster than any CF card. And available in 1gb & 2gb capacity.