Nikon 70-200 AFS-VR 2.8 vs 80-200 AFS 2.8


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AFS - I don't need on this lens cos I only use it on models

Cant argue with you on that.. but this is subjective again to your own needs.. coz your choice of subject matter. This would generally not be the case with many other photographers.. who would want to shot sports, animals, children, pets and other which require faster focusing as these beautiful "models" are more unpredictable.

VR - I don't need as I can hold it quite well on 1/60 or even at times moderate at 1/45
Again.. as said.. you shot this in controlled lighting environments of studio or bright outdoors.. again.. this may not reflect the needs of other photographers.. what I am trying to point too is an independent review not based on a personal preference..

FTM - Full time manual, I don't need also, anyway my eye sight always fails me on manual focus even with a 50mm!!!
Again this is something that goes with low light photography.. and as such you do little of it..

Focuslock - I don't need as I don't shoot sports.
it would be safe for me to assume that at least 75% of the people that will buy this lens will use it for coverage of moving subject.

2 extra ED - Hmmm, it is nice to have but to pay double for it? Subjective.
Agreed. Though it does help with better colour reproduction.

Weight - The 80-200 is lighter 1300g compare to 1430g
Subjective.. most will say a heavier lens is more stable.

Built - I still prefer the nice crinkle finish of the 80-200. As for the slimmer barrel of the 70-200VR, my hands are big, I still prefer the 80-200.
Subjective..
Tripod colar - I somewhat feels that the 70-200VR tripod tends to block my hand although it can be remove. As for the 80-200, it feels more comfortable in fact I don't need to shift it away.
This is subjective.. Coz I use the tripod collar like a hook.. and actually adds stability to my hand holding of the lens.. also I have had a few almost minor accidents with the small footbase of the tripod socket of the 80-200..

What else you think I need? In fact now I thought of getting a FM2 body to play with... I believe the 70-200VR can't use on a FM2 as it is a G lens rite?
you are right about the FM2.. but that is detracting from the main subject of this comparison.. Again.. I would say.. most of todays Nikon SLR users would choose to go to cameras like the F80.. and very few will choose the FM2.
 

At this I can say there is no real conclusion to which lens to buy.. I think it now really relies more on budget then anything else..
 

gadrian said:
At this I can say there is no real conclusion to which lens to buy.. I think it now really relies more on budget then anything else..
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Yes... at least there is something we can shake :cheers: on it...

I agree that I have been very subjective on my personal needs of the AFS70-200VR. This shows one thing, we have to evaluate our needs before jumping into getting a $3k lens. I believe that I have already convey my message to readers of this thread and had proof to readers that there is not only 1 lens, the AFS70-200VR, around.

I am quite disturb often to hear whenever a newbie wants a zoom lens of that range, almost 99 persons will tell him AFS70-200VR. The fact shows that in fact there is another lens around, the AF80-200D f/2.8 ED that is capable to produce similar quality picture at half the cost.

In all cases, the most important is too shoot more and improve with practice. Be it a $3k AFS70-200VR or a $1.5K AF80-200, if you can't compose a good picture, you're still not a good photographer. Agreed GAdrian? :)
 

Totally agree, both or in fact almost all the 70/80-200/210 f2.8 lens I have comes across are good. Only in critical conditions would there be some advantage of one over the other. $3k is not cheap and all should buy within their means, it is of course good to have functions that you don't need most of the time but ego takes over when you have budget for it. In the end it is still the eye behind the lens.

When it comes to recommending a lens obviously you recommend but not buying it yourself, the best comes into mind and not the $$$ afterall you don't pay. Caution to all who ask for advise, see and decide it yourself. The improtant thing is the eye behind. Actually even a 28-200 may be good enough.

My original start off question in comparing the 2 is not actually which one is better because I know both are as good but rather why Nikon choose to price both the lens at the same price when obviously one has better functionality than the other. I now understood that the 80-200 had been replaced by the 70-200 and is obsolete but nevertheless a good lens.


sykestang said:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Yes... at least there is something we can shake :cheers: on it...

I agree that I have been very subjective on my personal needs of the AFS70-200VR. This shows one thing, we have to evaluate our needs before jumping into getting a $3k lens. I believe that I have already convey my message to readers of this thread and had proof to readers that there is not only 1 lens, the AFS70-200VR, around.

I am quite disturb often to hear whenever a newbie wants a zoom lens of that range, almost 99 persons will tell him AFS70-200VR. The fact shows that in fact there is another lens around, the AF80-200D f/2.8 ED that is capable to produce similar quality picture at half the cost.

In all cases, the most important is too shoot more and improve with practice. Be it a $3k AFS70-200VR or a $1.5K AF80-200, if you can't compose a good picture, you're still not a good photographer. Agreed GAdrian? :)
 

Dennis said:
I now understood that the 80-200 had been replaced by the 70-200 and is obsolete but nevertheless a good lens.

Sorry Dennis, the AFS version of the 80-200 have been replaced. Even if you can find one brand new in the shops, it would cost the same as the AFS 70-200VR.

However all this while I've been introducing and comparing the AFD version of the 80-200 and Nikon is still manufacturing it and always have stock and is selling for half the price of AFS 70-200 or AFS 80-200.

;)
 

So the conclusion is:

Need what, buy what.
Can't afford? Buy the next best.

hehe :bsmilie:
 

Ansel said:
So the conclusion is:

Need what, buy what.
Can't afford? Buy the next best.

hehe :bsmilie:

Hahaha.. no no.. sell backside until got enough.. then buy!!!
 

No one has any new sample images for the 70-200AFS-VR!!??
 

gadrian said:
No one has any new sample images for the 70-200AFS-VR!!??
Maybe no one wants to sell backside.... :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

I've more 80-200 pics... can post here... ;p

Hmmm... how about the one that post the most pics here wins this 'Lens War'???

:devil:
 

Ok.. here is one..

heavenly.JPG


Do ask me for the exif if you want it..
 

Hmm just chanced upon this quote.. (ok ok.. sounds like I am slapping myself in the face)..

A photographer went to a socialite party in New York. As he entered the front door, the host said "I love your pictures - they're wonderful; you must have a fantastic camera." He said nothing until dinner was finished, then: "That was a wonderful dinner; you must have a terrific stove." - Sam Haskins
 

shooting myself.. hehe..

We're all proud of our hand-holding prowess and like to brag about how we once took a sharp photograph hand-held at 1/15 second with a 200 mm lens in a windstorm from a rocking boat while suffering from seasickness. - George Lepp
 

Tang..

Here is another image shot with the D100 + 70-200 AFS-VR.

DSC_5066(s).JPG
 

gadrian said:
btw.. ABS stands for Anti-Lock Breaking System - A breaking system that ensures that your wheels do not lock up during emergency breaking in order to avoid your car from skidding, thus ensuring higher level of road grip when breaking.

um... it's Braking, not Breaking. :)

eh, i read so far, the more i get confused leh. how come within the nikon users, also got "x is better than y" kind of mentality? so long as they were made constant f/2.8 it's usually a sign of very high quality, compared to varible aperture lenses.

got the lens good enough already, want to become reviewer? frankly i wonder if the nikon lens designers were reaching for each other's throats while designing the lens elements for the lenses mentioned in this thread...

chill it guys, you are photographers, not lens reviewers... :nono:
 

sehsuan. lighten up.. this is just for fun.. oh yah.. it is braking.. hehe..
 

sehsuan said:
um... it's Braking, not Breaking. :)

eh, i read so far, the more i get confused leh. how come within the nikon users, also got "x is better than y" kind of mentality? so long as they were made constant f/2.8 it's usually a sign of very high quality, compared to varible aperture lenses.

got the lens good enough already, want to become reviewer? frankly i wonder if the nikon lens designers were reaching for each other's throats while designing the lens elements for the lenses mentioned in this thread...

chill it guys, you are photographers, not lens reviewers... :nono:

Ya, sehsuan, look on the brght side... :D if not for us reviewing this 2 lenses and comparing picture quality, this thread would not be one of the top hits thread in this Nikon sub-forum... :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

Ok, gadrian, provocating me hah :nono: :devil:

Will be doing more shooting with my 80-200 soon after my D70 Remote Controller sales done... BTW which church is that?
 

GO WHITE!

i mean the white nikon lens mentioned earlier, you thought L lens? :devil:

:bsmilie:
 

Here is another with the 70-200 AFS-VR

DSC_5080(s).JPG
 

nice pics :thumbsup:

but..dont tell me u all still discussing on this lens vs lens thingy...chiongheizzz ah...:faint:
 

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