Newbies Outing (part 10) - June 6 Sunday, Marina Barrage


You can see that in your #7, the buildings are not vertical (which implies that the horizon is not horizontal)... see the reflection of the Millenia Tower? The reflection should be exactly below the actual building.

Also if you look at Plaza Hotel (the one with the green light on top of the building), the top of the building is closer to the side of the frame than the base of the building.

Thanks bro, it makes sense now... I will pay attention next time.
 

btw the image also looks rather soft. Not sure if due to over-aggressive reduction in quality when saving for web.
I know that Flickr isn't so cruel to soften the images, like Facebook or Multiply do.

Possible, because original size is > 3MB, I used CS4 to save for web and it is now only 127KB.
 

Bro, I can't see the horizon tilt that you are referring to on #5,6,7 and 8... Can you enlighten? :dunno:

In pictures when you are using wide angle with camera tilted upwards, buildings will look as if they are leaning towards the center of the frame at both ends. And there is no clear horizon for your to guage. The best way, is to look for vertical in/near the center of the frame as a guide.

Taking one of icefox23's picture as a guide, This is how I gauge if your pic is tilted.
(icefox23, hope you don't mind I used your pic as an example. If you need me to take it down, let me know and I will).

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I have written on how to gauge for a level horizon in difficult situations when using wide angles. You can read it here: http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6107189&postcount=40
 

Of cos u ppls are handsome guys and beautiful gals bit my skill is noob so have to process lol ... Tonight the photo shld be up... Sorry for the wait

Your skill noob?? ... Then we what are we??? Can faint!!
 

Bro, you make it sound so simple, but I catch no ball lor... Hope to learn these from you someday... Do you think this is possible?

We can never learn so much at one go, unless you are a genius. However, I think I've learned, even as much as I preach as a trainer, you learn more by practice. Also, you may not be able to absorb everything senior Albert aka dd123 tried to convey to us all, but one should never try and follow up with more reading up or researching.

One day, we will be like brother dd, and he'll be like Scott Kelby! Hehehehe, have belief!
 

One of these days we need to set up a PP sharing session. Need to ask someone to help with getting a place, with a LCD projector, so we can hook up a laptop and we can all share our workflow.

But that would require some sort of entrance payment. I have a few lobangs for such places, but have to let me know in advance if the place is available. But it's a good idea. hmmmm
 

Wow Mr and MRs Scubagolfer! Well done! I can certainly see improvement in both your shots. Way to go! Good exposure control, great sharpness, great focus. Nice...

Mr scubagolfer, you can try a wider view. The tight view you chose can also work, but you need to give more room to the top of the flyer. And with your choice of framing, the floats on the lower left edge of the frame can get very distracting.

Mrs scubagolfer, very nicely done. Well done. Now the next step is to understand how to correct for perspective distortion. If you notice how buildings in both sides of your pictures tend to lean towards the center? I will try to locate a good link that teaches you how to correct these. I know night86mare did a tutorial on this on CS. I have to dig it out.

Was talking yesterday between Mr & Mrs scubagolfer, jacobs, and Ghaz. About time to promote these two to Independent Shooter status, huh?
 

Who's the ang moh? :)
Part of the group?
Or a curious onlooker?

Just a curious passerby, who somehow picked up Kenny to talk to :)

He might be converted to join the photography craze, from what I overheard!
 

ehhhh .. can i get some C&C on my photos (posted on page 1).
when i look at my photos, i felt something not so right but dunno what.:dunno:
need expert to point out for me.

thanks in advance
 

I have a little crazy idea, was asking around people who went for shoots yesterday.

You know there are holiday photo-shoots overseas, like where they go on trips to exotic countries to shoot. I was playing with the idea to have like a 2 day 1 night getaway, but in Singapore. Program could be something like this:

12.00 - 13.00 : check-in
13.00 - 16.00 : get to know and maybe a talk or a short intro to something we may to learn
16.00 - 16.30 : break
16.30 - 20.00 : evening/sunset shoot
20.00 - 23.00 : dinner/bbq
23.00 - 01.30 : overnight shoot
01.30 - 05.00 : break
05.00 - 07.30 : sunrise shoot (optional, if you are tired)
07.30 - 09.30 : breakfast
09.30 - 11.30 : share photos and critique time
11.30 - break : break, get ready to check-out
12.00 : check-out

Of course, this would be done in December, if possible. Also, over a weekend, unless people can take leave and do it on a weekday (less crowded at places where we might want to shoot). Maybe we could put up in at Downtown East's chalets. Also, it won't be free, have to cover costs. Thinking of engaging transportation so we could be transported in comfort.

We could cover genres like landscape, macro, street shoot, etc. Anyone worth inviting to give a talk? Maybe how to PP?

Let me know if this is workable.

Cheers!
 

First of all, many thanks to dingaroo for organizing evening outing, as well as all seniors who came forth to guide us shooters!

I have decided taken a series of shots as the lights went out of the sky, in an attempt to stitch them up to form a really wide view. However, it definitely wasn't an easy job, so I just stacked the re-sized shots via naive alignment of common elements at the boundaries. Attempted tools like warping initially, and almost ended up warping my own sanity after 3 hours. :cry: Here's how it looks like...

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a 3-shot stitch was done up with the same procedure, and here it is:

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As you can see, distortions like the oval flyer is hardly pleasing, so how can I avoid such foul-ups? Hereby seeking guidance on setting up properly to capture a series of shots that would be suited for panoramic stitching, as well as any tools that could handle the alignment and distortion correction. All advice, brickbats and bouquets are welcome :)
 

ehhhh .. can i get some C&C on my photos (posted on page 1).
when i look at my photos, i felt something not so right but dunno what.:dunno:
need expert to point out for me.

thanks in advance

I don't really see anything wrong with the pictures, except maybe that of noodles, maybe a bit under exposed, but if you over expose it by maybe +1/3, might be better. But that's just me.

Cheers!
 

First of all, many thanks to dingaroo for organizing evening outing, as well as all seniors who came forth to guide us shooters!

I have decided taken a series of shots as the lights went out of the sky, in an attempt to stitch them up to form a really wide view. However, it definitely wasn't an easy job, so I just stacked the re-sized shots via naive alignment of common elements at the boundaries. Attempted tools like warping initially, and almost ended up warping my own sanity after 3 hours. :cry: Here's how it looks like...

4678728819_e425d0707e_b.jpg


a 3-shot stitch was done up with the same procedure, and here it is:

4678728603_1b5d831e23_b.jpg


As you can see, distortions like the oval flyer is hardly pleasing, so how can I avoid such foul-ups? Hereby seeking guidance on setting up properly to capture a series of shots that would be suited for panoramic stitching, as well as any tools that could handle the alignment and distortion correction. All advice, brickbats and bouquets are welcome :)

Seems like it's the common problem found with most panoramas, not taken at the lens' nodal point. To achieve that, you need the appropriate gear for that. Here's more information on nodal point. You can also google 'nodal point for more information'.

The seniors might have a better solution to your problem. Gurus?

Cheers!
 

ehhhh .. can i get some C&C on my photos (posted on page 1).
when i look at my photos, i felt something not so right but dunno what.:dunno:
need expert to point out for me.

thanks in advance

Sorry I missed your photos bro.

Here goes:

#6 is an interesting shot. But IMHO, I feel the tilt does not do much for the pic. It is better to do a straight shot in portrait orientation.

#7 #8 are actually both slightly over exposed. A decrease in 1/3 to 2/3 stops would be take care of it. #7 is tilted to the left. And #8 is almost level. I still see a very very slight tilt to the left. Overall pictures are sharp. #7 and #8 appears a little soft, probably due to the slight over exposure. Overall, I would say your shots are quite decent bro. Well done.
 

ehhhh .. can i get some C&C on my photos (posted on page 1).
when i look at my photos, i felt something not so right but dunno what.:dunno:
need expert to point out for me.

thanks in advance

Hey bro,

i think photo #6 will be better if u do exposure blending... the foreground is too dark IMO ....photo #7 i guess u might consider to do a tighter crop off the top and bottom...

As for candids... for myself when i take candids... i will try to take with the expression or an attitude :)

This my 2 cents worth of cc...... i ain't no pro... :) keep shooting
 

I have a little crazy idea, was asking around people who went for shoots yesterday.

You know there are holiday photo-shoots overseas, like where they go on trips to exotic countries to shoot. I was playing with the idea to have like a 2 day 1 night getaway, but in Singapore. ....

Funny that you mentioned it. I was thinking of doing a trip, but outside of Singapore. There is this group of islands out in the indonesian territory called Anambas. It is a group of islands. My friend went and I got to know the dude who has been taking people out there. I am considering to go. Problem is, have to go in a group of at least 10 people. I checked, and I think he is the only one bringing people out there. Sort of like undiscovered paradise. Any one interested? This is how a couple of the islands look like. I did not take these pics, posted with permission.

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Anyone interested?
 

Ooo looks nice.. I want to go to redang though.. The waters look so blue and wonderful!

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Sundown Surfin
 

First of all, many thanks to dingaroo for organizing evening outing, as well as all seniors who came forth to guide us shooters!

I have decided taken a series of shots as the lights went out of the sky, in an attempt to stitch them up to form a really wide view. However, it definitely wasn't an easy job, so I just stacked the re-sized shots via naive alignment of common elements at the boundaries. Attempted tools like warping initially, and almost ended up warping my own sanity after 3 hours. :cry: Here's how it looks like...


a 3-shot stitch was done up with the same procedure, and here it is:


As you can see, distortions like the oval flyer is hardly pleasing, so how can I avoid such foul-ups? Hereby seeking guidance on setting up properly to capture a series of shots that would be suited for panoramic stitching, as well as any tools that could handle the alignment and distortion correction. All advice, brickbats and bouquets are welcome :)

Bro, to do panaroma shots nicely, it is recommended to do it with a panaroma bracket, so you can rotate using the nodal point as the center of rotation. Also, you need manual exposure to lock the exposure in place and shoot with discipline at fixed angles. Warning, those brackets ain't cheap!

But I thought your 3 shot pana turned out very nicely though.
 

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Mr Draken we shall do xtreme sport strobing 1 day ya :)
 

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