Newbie into Candied & Portrait shots


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Oeii Basket...You guys are suppose to help me & give me advise on what to do & what not to do leh...How come the topic is still on my Nick har?

;p

what to do, we never have a movie star in cs mah.:bsmilie::bsmilie:
 

Wow! :o 70-200mm f1.2! I can't even imagine how big that would be! You'll definitely get a workout from that ;p

Actually its not that heavy & you get to shoot the kids at a very comfortable distance...especially swimming pool when you don't want to get wet.
 

Thank you for the advise, but I'm currently using only the Pop-Up Diffuser on my Flash.
Does the External flash play a lot of difference?

Sorry Lar, Newbie question is like that one...;p

Yes, you will have more control on how the lights to be on your pics

And also it help to stop motion as you can use higher shutter speed
 

Yes, you will have more control on how the lights to be on your pics

And also it help to stop motion as you can use higher shutter speed

Honestly, I have very little to no knowledge at all about flash photography because most of the time my kids are out doors when I take pictures of them, so I dun use flash.

But I would really like to learn more about it for Portrait Shots.
 

Good place to learn is our portrait and poses section. Take a few portrait shots and post it there. You'll get lots of useful comments.

Another way is to join photoshoos. There are always a few every weekend. During photoshoots observe what others are doing and ask to look at their shots. Chat with them, you can learn lots.
 

Chow Yun Fatt said:
Yes, I agree with you. They'll eventually get tired.

I use a 70-200mm f1.2 to capture them from a distance because if I'm too close, they will touch my Lens, ask me to play with them and get easily distracted, so I use this as my primary lens. Because I cannot work with a Tri-Pod, my arms are getting a good work out also...:bsmilie:

I really love taking portrait shots of them, all kids are so natural, not plastic at all.

jopwork said:
Wow! :o 70-200mm f1.2! I can't even imagine how big that would be! You'll definitely get a workout from that ;p

Chow Yun Fatt said:
Actually its not that heavy & you get to shoot the kids at a very comfortable distance...especially swimming pool when you don't want to get wet.

70-200 f/1.2???????
Since when did Canon make such a lens? Please take a photo of this lens and show us, Fatt-kor...! How much did it cost? US$80,000 ???
70-200 f/2.8L already rather heavy, and yet you say that the 70-200 f/1.2 is not that heavy? You must look like this
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http://visualrian.com/storage/PreviewWM/3321/61/332161.jpg
 

i am also shoot a lot of my kids photos by using my 18-200mm f3.5-5.6, shooting outdoor usually is not a problem for me, the pics turn out nice. but when come to indoor, like indoor playgroup, science center...etc.. most of pics blur. i am wondering if 50mm F1.4 will be the solution? (i dun feel comfortable using flash on kids).
 

there's a lot of debate about usage of flash on kids.

Personally I feel that bounced flash is very safe, especially if no irritation is felt.
One usually experiences irritation first, and only with more intense light would damage likely occur.
If one does not even feel irritation, then it's likely (in my opinion, I stress again) that no damage is done.
Use a big powerful flash like EX430 or EX580 and tie a small card in front to block any possible direct light.
 

i am also shoot a lot of my kids photos by using my 18-200mm f3.5-5.6, shooting outdoor usually is not a problem for me, the pics turn out nice. but when come to indoor, like indoor playgroup, science center...etc.. most of pics blur. i am wondering if 50mm F1.4 will be the solution? (i dun feel comfortable using flash on kids).

I don't have a 50 f1.4 but I have a 35 f1.8 that I currently use for shooting kids indoors (and high ISO too). I don't like using flash on kids because it makes them aware that I'm shooting them. They always start trying to avoid camera after the first shot. I'm finding that 35mm is also too short as they also notice me when I'm trying to shoot them. I'm planning on getting a longer lens like 50mm or possibly 85mm.
 

Feed them Sugar?....Are you insane?...Already now I'm like a GPMG Gunner &
You still want them on a Sugar High?

yea wad. u want candied shots, u gotta feed sugar. or else no candy.

and 70-200 f/1.2? wow really is the fatt gor. even canon no release this lens for us yet.:eek:

help me get one? (:
 

I don't have a 50 f1.4 but I have a 35 f1.8 that I currently use for shooting kids indoors (and high ISO too). I don't like using flash on kids because it makes them aware that I'm shooting them. They always start trying to avoid camera after the first shot. I'm finding that 35mm is also too short as they also notice me when I'm trying to shoot them. I'm planning on getting a longer lens like 50mm or possibly 85mm.

just to check is 35 f1.8 "fast" enough to shoot kids indoors without flash?
 

Hmm.... I must say, Mr Chow Yun Fatt's newbie welcome thread must be one of the longer (if not the longest) newbie welcome threads in CS.
Well, the next Mr Chow's thread may just be the $2million block buster, breaking even Avatar's record.
 

just to check is 35 f1.8 "fast" enough to shoot kids indoors without flash?

It depends on the lighting condition and what you are trying to shoot - but yeah it can be done. Place your kid near a window during daytime and you can get good light even just using a kit lens. At night, turn on all the lights. Try to get in as much light as you can without any of that flash. You can also choose a higher ISO (400 sometimes 800) just to get reasonable shutter speeds at f1.8.

Of course there are limitations. If you are trying to shoot running kids in a dark room and then expect that your camera can handle it without any blurs, you are just asking for a miracle (or a Nikon D3s/Canon 1Ds Mark IV) ;)
 

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70-200 f/1.2???????
Since when did Canon make such a lens? Please take a photo of this lens and show us, Fatt-kor...! How much did it cost? US$80,000 ???
70-200 f/2.8L already rather heavy, and yet you say that the 70-200 f/1.2 is not that heavy? You must look like this
332161.jpg

http://visualrian.com/storage/PreviewWM/3321/61/332161.jpg

Sorry Pai Seh...f2.8....I got mixed up with my 85mm...Told you I was a Newbie...:bsmilie:
 

Good place to learn is our portrait and poses section. Take a few portrait shots and post it there. You'll get lots of useful comments.

Another way is to join photoshoos. There are always a few every weekend. During photoshoots observe what others are doing and ask to look at their shots. Chat with them, you can learn lots.

Pai Seh Leh...my shoots are mostly Candied so not very professional...I juz basically turn on to Shutter Priority & let the lens & Camera do the rest...so not very professional...;p
 

i am also shoot a lot of my kids photos by using my 18-200mm f3.5-5.6, shooting outdoor usually is not a problem for me, the pics turn out nice. but when come to indoor, like indoor playgroup, science center...etc.. most of pics blur. i am wondering if 50mm F1.4 will be the solution? (i dun feel comfortable using flash on kids).

My feeling is mutual...I usually set to Shutter P indoors & use the Pop-Up with Diffuser, but the images are not so ideal...must use Aperture to modify a bit all the time to get some thing I like...actually more like my Wife like...:bsmilie:
 

there's a lot of debate about usage of flash on kids.

Personally I feel that bounced flash is very safe, especially if no irritation is felt.
One usually experiences irritation first, and only with more intense light would damage likely occur.
If one does not even feel irritation, then it's likely (in my opinion, I stress again) that no damage is done.
Use a big powerful flash like EX430 or EX580 and tie a small card in front to block any possible direct light.

The problem with flash from my point is this...My kids get very aware & they will look very awkward when the next time you try to pan towards their direction.
 

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