New Pro Nikon Camera on June 26th!

[Cheesecake]

I saw this posted on a Chinese Forum, not sure how true it is.
Just for your info...

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=316837

no x.

 

[AlexMoi]

by 28th if still no news mean you can walk over to the other side....happy and noisely ever after. Amen!

 

[blazer_workz]

save the best for last

no..more ppl jump ship..more ppl SSS, we can grab 2nd hand items cheaper and when it really launch, price must go lower to recapture the market..:bsmilie: :bsmilie:

 

[blazer_workz]

look for it
in the NDP goodie bag

No wonder the tickets are all grab up like hotcakes..:bsmilie:

 

[t0tor0]

My bet? I will be very surprised if Sony lets Nikon use the FF sensor BEFORE they release their own pro model.

totally agree. i think nikon also a bit worried after sony launch their dslr line. think about that; your competitor having control of your ccd. who will not be worried? some more with zeiss lens.

which is also why i think nikon decide to have better relationship with fuji and let them use the d200 body for the s5pro. i think nikon now sourcing for alternative ccd and we may see colaboration with others. maybe also more fuji/nikon colaboration.

 

[blazer_workz]

totally agree. i think nikon also a bit worried after sony launch their dslr line. think about that; your competitor having control of your ccd. who will not be worried? some more with zeiss lens.

which is also why i think nikon decide to have better relationship with fuji and let them use the d200 body for the s5pro. i think nikon now sourcing for alternative ccd and we may see colaboration with others. maybe also more fuji/nikon colaboration.

if tis is true, it will be great..then nikon can focus on designing lens, and fuji the body..:lovegrin: i love fuji colors..:lovegrin:

 

[wazzup]

It's here, but it's not 1.1x or 1.0x, it's still 1.5x. Check it out!

 

[arpinkor]

totally agree. i think nikon also a bit worried after sony launch their dslr line. think about that; your competitor having control of your ccd. who will not be worried? some more with zeiss lens.

which is also why i think nikon decide to have better relationship with fuji and let them use the d200 body for the s5pro. i think nikon now sourcing for alternative ccd and we may see colaboration with others. maybe also more fuji/nikon colaboration.

Well, my thinking is different.
I don't think Nikon should be too concerned about the Sony DSLR challenge. Sony is not yet a big player in the DSLR field. After Canon, Nikon should be more concerned with Pentax, especially the K10D. Anyway, to consumers, there may seem to be a lot of rivalry between the brands but business is business and money comes first. Sony will not hesitate to sell Nikon or Pentax or anyone else their sensors if it makes money. The CCD business unit in Sony should be separate from the DSLR BU. Likewise, for Nikon to invest heavily in making their own sensors may not be the best path, because it may not be cost-effective. Canon and Sony have also got videocam business, which also makes use of CCD technology so the R&D costs can be shared. It's best to leave these sub-assemblies to the vendors who can offer the best deal for the specs (be it Sony or Foveon or maybe even Canon) and for Nikon to just concentrate on the design of the body itself, integrating the best parts for the target price-point.

 

[medallion]

It's here, but it's not 1.1x or 1.0x, it's still 1.5x. Check it out!

Where?

 

[ortega]

Where?

NDP goodie Bag

 

[Triodeman]

It's already here ...

Nikon Body, Fuji sensor, 1.5 crop = FujiFilm S5Pro

Where?

 

[lunas]

NDP goodie Bag

Hahah. No, No..It's in the NTUC plastic bag

 

[surge]

Wah sai dpreview contains this rumour taken fron Nikon Italy's forum:

Camera Model: Nikon D3
Effective Pixels: 12 megapixels +
Date Of Release: 05 Jul 2007
Body Make: Magnesium Alloy
Image Size: 4288 x 2848
File Formats: RAW , JPEG (3 types)
Frames Per Second: 8 - 10 FPS

Description

****THE RELEASE DATE ABOVE IS AN ESTIMATE ONLY **** (based on dealings within the distributor network)

All the hype surrounding the new D3 series may well be pointing to a summer 2007 release

Below are some of the potential updates we can find on this most sought after camera

Modular body (interchangeable finder, back, and storage modules); the body is the host camera brains and control system, power source, lens mount, mirror box, shutter, and support system while everything else gets added on:
10-12mp APS High Speed Back (10 fps DX crop, 12 fps HS crop)
24mm FF Low Speed Back (3 fps FF, 5 fps DX crop)
12mp Black and White Back
Prism finder with real time displays (e.g. histograms)
Card storage module (2x CompactFlash or 2x SecureDigital)
Drive storage module (40, 80, 120GB hard drive)
Wireless module (1x CompactFlash for backup, WiFi)

Note the modular body!! :bigeyes:

If this is true ah...wahliao what can I say? :vhappy:

wa....so the whole set up comes in a steel trunk case like sniper weapon...then you just assemble it and fire that one perfect shot!

 

[Jaycelim]

NDP goodie Bag

When I get the bag and don't see it inside, can I claim from you? :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

 

[gooseberry]

look for it
in the NDP goodie bag

:bsmilie: :bsmilie:

My bet? I will be very surprised if Sony lets Nikon use the FF sensor BEFORE they release their own pro model. Remember, Sony now has their own Alpha line to take care of... Besides, Sony has ALREADY shown their prototypes during PMA 2007 (Feb). If Sony releases their pro camera in early 2008, Nikon and Pentax will follow suit couple of months after that. This, I feel is the most likely scenario.

Then again, Nikon can also try to source for their 1.0x or 1.1x sensor from elsewhere, but that is quite unlikely.

totally agree. i think nikon also a bit worried after sony launch their dslr line. think about that; your competitor having control of your ccd. who will not be worried? some more with zeiss lens.

which is also why i think nikon decide to have better relationship with fuji and let them use the d200 body for the s5pro. i think nikon now sourcing for alternative ccd and we may see colaboration with others. maybe also more fuji/nikon colaboration.

A couple of observations. Nikon and Sony have a much closer relationship than most people realise. Nikon (Precision Instruments) makes the equipment that Sony (Semiconductor) uses to make sensors. With Sony being a major customer, I'd think that Nikon would know a lot about what Sony is making - I'm sure the Nikon engineers are working very closely together with the Sony engineers in how to best use the Nikon equipment to make the sensors. (Also, a number of the Sony sensors have had Nikon design additions to them that have so far been exclusive to Nikon cameras - D70's CCD electronic shutter, 4 channel output D2X CMOS senor, 4 channel output D200 CCD sensor etc).

Also, Nikon (Imaging) is Sony (Semiconductor)'s largest customer for the larger DSLR sensors by a wide margin (about 2-3 times the volume of all the others (Sony (Camera), Pentax etc) combined). Sony (Camera) might be wanting Sony (Semiconductor) to give them a competitive advantage, but that might be problematic - as you'd piss off your largest customer, who is probably quite involved in helping you make those sensors, and all your other customers will start looking for other suppliers as well.

 

[ortega]

When I get the bag and don't see it inside, can I claim from you? :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

if it is not there

just go to nikon showroom and take a brochure from there

 

[vince123123]

Speaking about electronic shutter, I"m wondering why Nikon doesn't implemeent it for any cameras after the D70.

I would certainly find a lot of uses for it.

:bsmilie: :bsmilie:









A couple of observations. Nikon and Sony have a much closer relationship than most people realise. Nikon (Precision Instruments) makes the equipment that Sony (Semiconductor) uses to make sensors. With Sony being a major customer, I'd think that Nikon would know a lot about what Sony is making - I'm sure the Nikon engineers are working very closely together with the Sony engineers in how to best use the Nikon equipment to make the sensors. (Also, a number of the Sony sensors have had Nikon design additions to them that have so far been exclusive to Nikon cameras - D70's CCD electronic shutter, 4 channel output D2X CMOS senor, 4 channel output D200 CCD sensor etc).

Also, Nikon (Imaging) is Sony (Semiconductor)'s largest customer for the larger DSLR sensors by a wide margin (about 2-3 times the volume of all the others (Sony (Camera), Pentax etc) combined). Sony (Camera) might be wanting Sony (Semiconductor) to give them a competitive advantage, but that might be problematic - as you'd piss off your largest customer, who is probably quite involved in helping you make those sensors, and all your other customers will start looking for other suppliers as well.

 

[Scaglietti]

Speaking about electronic shutter, I"m wondering why Nikon doesn't implemeent it for any cameras after the D70.

I would certainly find a lot of uses for it.

There are limitations of electronic shutter. I am suspecting that it causes some noise or some image quality related problem.

BC

 

[Scaglietti]

:A couple of observations. Nikon and Sony have a much closer relationship than most people realise. Nikon (Precision Instruments) makes the equipment that Sony (Semiconductor) uses to make sensors. With Sony being a major customer, I'd think that Nikon would know a lot about what Sony is making - I'm sure the Nikon engineers are working very closely together with the Sony engineers in how to best use the Nikon equipment to make the sensors. (Also, a number of the Sony sensors have had Nikon design additions to them that have so far been exclusive to Nikon cameras - D70's CCD electronic shutter, 4 channel output D2X CMOS senor, 4 channel output D200 CCD sensor etc).

Also, Nikon (Imaging) is Sony (Semiconductor)'s largest customer for the larger DSLR sensors by a wide margin (about 2-3 times the volume of all the others (Sony (Camera), Pentax etc) combined). Sony (Camera) might be wanting Sony (Semiconductor) to give them a competitive advantage, but that might be problematic - as you'd piss off your largest customer, who is probably quite involved in helping you make those sensors, and all your other customers will start looking for other suppliers as well.

Yes, customer-supplier relationships between Japanese companies are intriging. Japanese customers are usually loyal to their Japanese supplier and Japanese suppliers are totally committed to their Japanese customers. Many people wonder why Japanese companies are always buying from Japanese suppliers even when prices are not as competitive. There is a intangible aspect of Japanese business relationship: loyalty and commitment, even beyond the written contracts.

I have worked as sales for a Japanese company and also have served Japanese customers. I get a glimpse the working relationship between Japanese companies. I had a Jap customer who runs a process but outsource some of the production volume to another Jap company due to capacity & technology constraints. Sometimes they feedback that the service they receive are as good or even better than their own process. I believe there are similar working relationship between Nikon and Sony, and I think Nikon do not lose out in terms of support even when they do not produce their own sensors.

I remember that there was once when Sony transfer a CRT product from Japan to Singapore, their supplier actually set up a Singapore factory just to support the manufacturing of this product.

Customer-supplier relationship is treated seriously in Japanese company. I have had a Japanese sales director who was so pissed with Intel because they stop buying from us, he stop us from buying PC with Intel processors. So, for the next few years, all our new PC comes with AMD processors.:bsmilie: Although it did not do much to Intel sales, this is the attitude Japanese have wrt customer-supplier relationship.

BC

 

[lsisaxon]

A couple of observations. Nikon and Sony have a much closer relationship than most people realise. Nikon (Precision Instruments) makes the equipment that Sony (Semiconductor) uses to make sensors. With Sony being a major customer, I'd think that Nikon would know a lot about what Sony is making - I'm sure the Nikon engineers are working very closely together with the Sony engineers in how to best use the Nikon equipment to make the sensors. (Also, a number of the Sony sensors have had Nikon design additions to them that have so far been exclusive to Nikon cameras - D70's CCD electronic shutter, 4 channel output D2X CMOS senor, 4 channel output D200 CCD sensor etc).

Also, Nikon (Imaging) is Sony (Semiconductor)'s largest customer for the larger DSLR sensors by a wide margin (about 2-3 times the volume of all the others (Sony (Camera), Pentax etc) combined). Sony (Camera) might be wanting Sony (Semiconductor) to give them a competitive advantage, but that might be problematic - as you'd piss off your largest customer, who is probably quite involved in helping you make those sensors, and all your other customers will start looking for other suppliers as well.

Oh yah.. speaking about that, in a big company like Sony or Panasonic, one division is not obliged to purchase/sell to another division in the same company. They are just like separate entities.