Need advise for Pentax DA* 300


Bro, your pics really helpful especially with TC + DA*300 combo. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the effort. :)

Found another 2 pics with the combo. If you're thinking of using this combo for birdings, suggest get the sigma 150-500 instead, easier to use...

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The Force is different...

500mm 3rd Party lens and Original Pentax Lens has different characteristic. Overall, I still love the IQ from my 55-300 as it gives vibrant color apart from my 500mm IQ which gives Flat tone.

So thats why...when u get the DA*300mm... I hope to test it. lol. I think Toshio would love too :bsmilie:

heh heh I've never brought out my 500mm mirror lens to shoot b4.
Only shoot 10+ test shots from my home's windows. Manual really not for me. :sweat:
 

Found another 2 pics with the combo. If you're thinking of using this combo for birdings, suggest get the sigma 150-500 instead, easier to use...

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Wow, the pics are great, love the monitor lizard pic, much sharper than my DAL 55-300mm :thumbsup:
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703784

I've seen sigma 150-500 with Canon can take quite sharp pics, have not seen the combo with Pentax. But the weight...:sweat:
 

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Wow, the pics are great, love the monitor lizard pic, much sharper than my DAL 55-300mm :thumbsup:
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703784

I've seen sigma 150-500 with Canon can take quite sharp pics, have not seen the combo with Pentax. But the weight...:sweat:

Hmm... this reminded me. Saw your kingfisher shots with the 55-300mm, and somehow I don't think it's showing the full potential of the lens. Not very sure why, but maybe it's the high ISO noise, or something else with the processing (either in-camera jpg or your raw processing). Or maybe it's just the lighting under the tree's canopy... it's not the easiest place to get a good pic of a bird. I bought the DA55-300mm 'cos I tested it and found that the pics were really not so far off from that of the DA*300mm.

Not discouraging you from the DA* though, if got funds, go for it man! Sometimes I still regret not having bought the DA*300mm instead....
 

Hmm... this reminded me. Saw your kingfisher shots with the 55-300mm, and somehow I don't think it's showing the full potential of the lens. Not very sure why, but maybe it's the high ISO noise, or something else with the processing (either in-camera jpg or your raw processing). Or maybe it's just the lighting under the tree's canopy... it's not the easiest place to get a good pic of a bird. I bought the DA55-300mm 'cos I tested it and found that the pics were really not so far off from that of the DA*300mm.

Not discouraging you from the DA* though, if got funds, go for it man! Sometimes I still regret not having bought the DA*300mm instead....
can always sell off your 55-300 and get the DA*300. <;
 

Hmm... this reminded me. Saw your kingfisher shots with the 55-300mm, and somehow I don't think it's showing the full potential of the lens. Not very sure why, but maybe it's the high ISO noise, or something else with the processing (either in-camera jpg or your raw processing). Or maybe it's just the lighting under the tree's canopy... it's not the easiest place to get a good pic of a bird. I bought the DA55-300mm 'cos I tested it and found that the pics were really not so far off from that of the DA*300mm.

Not discouraging you from the DA* though, if got funds, go for it man! Sometimes I still regret not having bought the DA*300mm instead....

Oh.. so the DAL 55-300 can be sharper than those KF pics?
 

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can always sell off your 55-300 and get the DA*300. <;

55-300 is still a useful & good lens for its range. Even if I get the DA*300 will still keep it. :)
 

can always sell off your 55-300 and get the DA*300. <;

Yes that is something in the long term plan. But before that I also need to sell off my Sigma 30mm and get the FA31mm, sell off my Tamron 90mm and get the DFA100mm WR, sell off my Sigma 530 super and get the AF530.... so many things to upgrade! Grow old already also haven't finish upgrading.... :cry:
 

Oh.. so the DAL 55-300 can be sharper than those KF pics?

Well, I can speak for the DA55-300mm, but we know that the DAL version has exactly the same optics, so performance should be similar if not identical. I had better lighting conditions than you, but these are shot at 300mm wide open. I attach bigger pics so you can see the details in the feathers.

ISO 200
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ISO 800
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ISO 800 Not a bird, but the fur is nice too :). Had to push the exposure quite a bit in PP for this one, so you start to see the noise in the background. But it's not affecting the subject too much.
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I saw that you shot at ISO 1600, but I think that the K-x should be able to handle that without loosing much contrast or details. :dunno: Some of the pics had some handshake, but even those that don't suffer from handshake are lacking some oomph. Maybe it's just a lack of contrast? Need someone with more PP experience to help you diagnose, I'm no good at this....
 

Well, I can speak for the DA55-300mm, but we know that the DAL version has exactly the same optics, so performance should be similar if not identical. I had better lighting conditions than you, but these are shot at 300mm wide open. I attach bigger pics so you can see the details in the feathers.

ISO 200
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This pic is sharp. :thumbsup:

I saw that you shot at ISO 1600, but I think that the K-x should be able to handle that without loosing much contrast or details. :dunno: Some of the pics had some handshake, but even those that don't suffer from handshake are lacking some oomph. Maybe it's just a lack of contrast? Need someone with more PP experience to help you diagnose, I'm no good at this....

Those ISO1600 shots are mostly handheld. I have to keep shutter speed >1/300s, so no choice have to up iso to 1600. Even so, I still got handshake :sweat:

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Sometimes it depends on the surronnding. A clean background tends to make the subject sharper.
This shot was taken with DAL 55-300 @300mm, iso 3200

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Sometimes it depends on the surronnding. A clean background tends to make the subject sharper.
This shot was taken with DAL 55-300 @300mm, iso 3200

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Hey this one does look good! The details on the bird are fairly clear, even at iso3200. But I suppose you're hoping to get even better results from the DA* huh? ;)

I took another look at the KF pics, I don't think it's a sharpness issue. Like this one:
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Sharpness is definitely good, the BG is fairly clean, noise is not a problem, but the KF still doesn't "pop" like the mynah in the pic above.

Anyway, enough nitpicking. DA/DAL55-300mm, good. DA*300mm, better! Once your mind is set, BBB! :bsmilie:
 

Yes that is something in the long term plan. But before that I also need to sell off my Sigma 30mm and get the FA31mm, sell off my Tamron 90mm and get the DFA100mm WR, sell off my Sigma 530 super and get the AF530.... so many things to upgrade! Grow old already also haven't finish upgrading.... :cry:
Don't worry, July bonus is coming soon. d: We only live once, money can be earned back!
 

Hey this one does look good! The details on the bird are fairly clear, even at iso3200. But I suppose you're hoping to get even better results from the DA* huh? ;)

I took another look at the KF pics, I don't think it's a sharpness issue. Like this one:
fa4ehs.jpg

Sharpness is definitely good, the BG is fairly clean, noise is not a problem, but the KF still doesn't "pop" like the mynah in the pic above.

Anyway, enough nitpicking. DA/DAL55-300mm, good. DA*300mm, better! Once your mind is set, BBB! :bsmilie:

Ya hor, u r observant. The KF doesn't look 3D, it looks so flat, dunno why? :dunno:
Actually I already bought the DA*300 yesterday night. ;p
 

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Ya hor, u r observant. The KF doesn't look 3D, it looks so flat, dunno why? :dunno:
Actually I already bought the DA*300 yesterday night. ;p

I think its based on the background. Since the KF has more white, and a brighter background, thus the flat image.
 

This one looks flat to me (pic i took w/ 55-300)

1)
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2) this one looks ok.
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