fengwei
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If only GF3 is in the poll ...
Exactly! But I guess some here like Oly's color and EP3's features
My Choice of a m4/3 Body
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If only GF3 is in the poll ...
Exactly! But I guess some here like Oly's color and EP3's features
My thots on the GF3 ..... reflected here.
" ....tiny teeny GF2 and GF3 were cameras that did NOT follow the design of the GF1 as Panasonic pushed to make these camera smaller and they ended up dumbing them down a bit to appeal to the point and shoot crowd. ....."
BTW dun think the GF3 matches the GH2, G3 nor the GX1 for IQ. All EPs have similar IQ. I can't think of any other advantages of the GF3 today compare to the cameras listed other than price, size and maybe colors :dunno:
Anyone else interested in popularity of brands can start another poll comparing the GF1, GF2, GF3, G1, G2, GH1, EP1, EP2, EPL1, EPL2 etc ........
" ....tiny teeny GF2 and GF3 were cameras that did NOT follow the design of the GF1 as Panasonic pushed to make these camera smaller and they ended up dumbing them down a bit to appeal to the point and shoot crowd. ....."
BTW dun think the GF3 matches the GH2, G3 nor the GX1 for IQ. All EPs have similar IQ. I can't think of any other advantages of the GF3 today compare to the cameras listed other than price, size and maybe colors :dunno:
Anyone else interested in popularity of brands can start another poll comparing the GF1, GF2, GF3, G1, G2, GH1, EP1, EP2, EPL1, EPL2 etc ........
If GF3 were included as well, it would be a more accurate and fair poll. The GF range is one of the most popular ranges from Panasonic.
rasdeep
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How does adding GF3 giving a more accurate and fair poll? What are you actually comparing?
If being fair, 3 cams from Panasonic vs 3 from Oly seems fair to me, how so adding another one from Panasonic giving fairer poll? I am pretty sure if the poll includes older cams like E/PL1-2 and G/F1-2, you will see a lot more votes too but i guess this poll is meant for what people feel is their choice and might not be what cam(s) they actually own.
I think the OP already stated, he just wanted to know these 6 cameras but if you really want to know if GF3 has more fans, you should start another thread.
Hey bro, I started one.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/four...y-m43-body-today-i-would-buy.html#post7645046
I think it is not a matter of what one person wants to know. There is this thing called sharing and better informed purchase.
Hell, the Nikon mirrorless system looks cute and Nikon brand name is enough for me to buy it. What the hell is Panasonic compared to Nikon? What about that Olympus that is being investigated for covering the losses? You still want to buy into a system by a company who had closed down its imaging division before? This the joke of the century for m43 buyers.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/four...y-m43-body-today-i-would-buy.html#post7645046
I think it is not a matter of what one person wants to know. There is this thing called sharing and better informed purchase.
Hell, the Nikon mirrorless system looks cute and Nikon brand name is enough for me to buy it. What the hell is Panasonic compared to Nikon? What about that Olympus that is being investigated for covering the losses? You still want to buy into a system by a company who had closed down its imaging division before? This the joke of the century for m43 buyers.
rasdeep
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You need to re-think your priorities if you buy a camera based on popularity contest. Besides, even if Oly close shop tomorrow, does it mean your camera stop working? Does it not capture the moment you want it? Does it cause you to lose interest in shooting with that camera? You are buying a photography tool, you are not buying its shares. Like i said, you should re-think your priorities in owning a camera.
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This funny. Who mentioned this is buying camera based on polls situation? :dunno:
What is stopping someone to buy a camera as a toy? Based on your world view? I am not saying someone should buy a camera as a toy.
Dude, your words are strong, "need" and "should" in your sentences.
FYI I have been buying old lens and bodies that are no longer in production or servicing. If warranty is not an issue, can I suggest that we just buy grey sets at 10% somewhere else instead of locally? Some people need to be assured of resale value in case they need to cash it for whatever reason. Your statement suggests that you can afford to neglect the feelings of users who camera makers are no longer in business.
Like I say, one's world view does not equate to another and should not be imposed on others. Period
It's true that people don't always make logical choices in buying anything. If we were all making only logical choices, we might not buy Four-Thirds or micro Four-Thirds equipment.
Certainly, Panasonic's Live MOS sensors have not lived up to what Sony and Canon are doing with theirs. If I was starting fresh, would I have bought an Olympus E-5 or a Nikon D7000 or D300s? I think it's an easy, logical answer.
The Nikon 1 system is cute but I wouldn't buy one. The Sony NEX system is ugly but at least, it has good image quality when you can find a decent lens. Samsung's NX system should be great but have they sold more than 10?
micro Four-Thirds is the safe choice, even if it's not always the best choice. There are compromises with any system. Of course, if we chose on what is popular, we'd all be using Canikon equipment now and there wouldn't be mirror-less equipment, most likely.
rasdeep
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I think we have all been there at some point in time picking Canon vs Nikon vs Sony vs Pentax vs mFT vs FT vs "you name it" and eventually making the logical choice based off our own priorities in the camera we want. The logical choice that we thought is logical but to others seem weird but what we all can agree is we weight the choice base off the Pros and if the Cons are acceptable enough.
Choosing mFT may not be logical choice if the priority is solely based on image quality but when you weigh in the Pros like small compact size, nice range of lenses and image that is "good enough", it became a logical choice. In short, we have been there making choices and decisions based of our needs which is why Ive emphasized on "re-thinking" and sorting out individual priorities instead of going with the masses based on popularity contest. I am not saying you cannot do that but does it make sense to do that as different people have different priorities and nobody but yourself knows your priorities. My wife bases her cam choice on the blings and the color she likes so I guess base priority off a companies future, is not the least weird.
i am sure one of the hotest mFT lens now is the Oly 45/1.8 so who is stopping to get that lens even without knowing Oly's future? Oly cams needs warranty but Oly lenses do not need them? It still consist of electronics that can break as easy as the cams. Also, the toy comment kept circling in my mind as I do not understand why buying a camera as a toy has anything to do with sorting out priority but later realized he must be talking about resale value because the intention is to "play play" and later sell the camera so if the company went kapoo, his "stock" will go kapoo with it.. LOL.. If that is not your thinking, pls explain clearly as we can only think this much without being the worm in you so for now, ok i understand your priorities! Going along this thought, I can tell you if you want a cam with good resale value, you must look harder (hint: pick a brand that run low in stock because of the flood, the used cams price also increased by 10-20%)
I am sure there are many others like me that have owned or owning multiple systems and found the mFT cams fantastic for travel. Previously, I used to lug around a D700 with WA + D90/D7k with a 70-200VR2 and my back hurts when I have to travel like that. Now I can travel lighter but still have not found the ideal way to travel if I need a tele range with brighter lens, i guess this is something that im looking forward to on mFT which seems to be coming soon
At least I'm not a logical person. I bought Panasonic fl360 flash instead of Olympus fl36r. Reason being I like to use consistent brand. Even my Leica 45/2.8 is an irrational choice because of it's price when compared to oly 45/1.8
If Olympus is closed, I wouldn't want to buy any Olympus products in the market at all.
If Olympus is closed, I wouldn't want to buy any Olympus products in the market at all.
Choosing similar brands is not an entirely illogical choice. E.g. the PL 25/f1.4 seems to not have the diaphragm clicking problem on Panny bodies whereas on Oly bodies, it clicks madly.
BTW the Leica 45/f2.8 is NOT the same as the Oly 45/f1.8. One is a macro lens.
And who knows, if and when Oly really shuts its camera division, you'll either get superb bargains or everything good from Oly becomes collectors' items :lovegrin:
Fl360 is illogical because of the higher price without wireless feature also
No longer relevant for me now the OM-D is coming
"One cam to rule them all! "
Damn, I was bashing my brains for the past one month thinking GX1 or NEX-7? GX1? NEX-7? ARGH!!!
Then the OM-D E-M5 was announced and I am now at peace.
It address almost all the shortcomings and incorporates the best from those 2 prior choices, such as touchscreen, custom controls, tilt screen, built-in EVF, lens availability etc. To add to that, 5-axis IBIS, weatherproof, superb retro design... Damn!
My one single grouse at this point is the included flash not able to tilt all the way for a bounce effect.
Damn I'm sold on this. And with my wife's approval. She doesn't understand much of what I was telling her about the OM-D but she totally agree with me on the choice of the silver body.
Then the OM-D E-M5 was announced and I am now at peace.
It address almost all the shortcomings and incorporates the best from those 2 prior choices, such as touchscreen, custom controls, tilt screen, built-in EVF, lens availability etc. To add to that, 5-axis IBIS, weatherproof, superb retro design... Damn!
My one single grouse at this point is the included flash not able to tilt all the way for a bounce effect.
Damn I'm sold on this. And with my wife's approval. She doesn't understand much of what I was telling her about the OM-D but she totally agree with me on the choice of the silver body.
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