Just picked up the FE 55/1.8. Quick question for those who got it

[ricleo]

Yes, I had read the lens rentals article some time ago. The 35mm F2IS is probably the sharpest normally priced lens that Canon makes. It's possible to estimate its performance with the A7r because its performance is very similar to the Sigma 35mm F1.4, which actually has a higher DXOMark than the 35mm F2IS. DXOMark has tested the Sigma 35mm with the D800 that has a similar sensor to the A7r. The Sigma 35mm scored 23P-Mpix. Extrapolating, the 35mm F2IS will likely be around 24-25P-Mpix with the A7r since it's center is a tad sharper (edge performance trails the Sigma) and the A7r has no AA filter. So Canon's sharpest lens still trails both the Otus/D800 and 55FE/A7r by a considerable margin of 4P-Mpix. It also implies that Canon's sharpest lens cannot fully resolve 36MP. If so, what hope do Canon's lesser lenses have?

I've seen tests of the 135 F1.8ZA and while it's a very sharp lens, it seems to trail the Zeiss APO 135 F2 in sharpness. An APO lens should be better corrected. The APO 135 scores 28P-Mpix on DXOMark with the D800, so its pretty much a match to the Otus and 55FE.

Can only wait for canon's high MP full frame camera to be released in Order to know then keke. Canon's 5d3 cld already match so closely in terms of sharpness to nikon's d800 at 22mp. Let's see what the EF lenses can do when matched to a 36 or 40mp body.

D800 has aa filter n the a7r doesn't. Wonder y dxo doesn't test the Nikon lenses with the best sensor available on the d800e

http://www.dxomark.com/en/Reviews/W...ikon-D800-Competition-is-closer-than-expected

 

[Thoth]

not all bro HK Chicken Pie expensive

Chicken pie? U mean for real? Haha.

 

[Thoth]

Can only wait for canon's high MP full frame camera to be released in Order to know then keke. Canon's 5d3 cld already match so closely in terms of sharpness to nikon's d800 at 22mp. Let's see what the EF lenses can do when matched to a 36 or 40mp body. D800 has aa filter n the a7r doesn't. Wonder y dxo doesn't test the Nikon lenses with the best sensor available on the d800e http://www.dxomark.com/en/Reviews/Which-lenses-should-you-choose-for-your-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-vs.-Nikon-D800-Competition-is-closer-than-expected

For hard canon fan. Haha. Switch to Nikon n problems resolved bro. Keke.

 

[Halfmoon]

For hard canon fan. Haha. Switch to Nikon n problems resolved bro. Keke.

Ricleo will have 3 systems then...

 

[Thoth]

Ricleo will have 3 systems then...

Perfect setup. Haha

 

[Halfmoon]

Perfect setup. Haha

Then you have the Ultimate set up... 7 systems right? :bsmilie:

 

[tsammyc]

Any guesses for how the 35FE will score on DXOMark? I predict that it will get an even higher score than the 55FE on sharpness, simply because 35mm lenses usually do. Will be a bit embarrassing if it actually gets a higher sharpness score than the Otus, but then it will be largely because it's a 35mm F2.8 lens, and the lowest sharpness will be very high already.

 

[Thoth]

Then you have the Ultimate set up... 7 systems right? :bsmilie:

Haha. No ultimate setup. Lean n mean.

 

[ricleo]

Ricleo will have 3 systems then...

Nah not a fan of nikon colors. Maybe olympus hehe

 

[Halfmoon]

Haha. No ultimate setup. Lean n mean.

OIC.... just... SHOOT more!!! If you have ultimate setup... we all will be poisoned by you across all the threads here! :bsmilie:

 

[keithwee]

Nah not a fan of nikon colors. Maybe olympus hehe

Read that if anytime u wana take a look at Oly , I've the EM-1 , 17/1.8 and 45/1.8 and 12-40/2.8 to poison u bro. Oly MFT crop factor is 2x FYI

 

[ricleo]

Read that if anytime u wana take a look at Oly , I've the EM-1 , 17/1.8 and 45/1.8 and 12-40/2.8 to poison u bro. Oly MFT crop factor is 2x FYI

Haha I had the em5 with 12mm 45mm 75mm. Really nice primes oly had... All sold off though. Maybe the em10 wih that new pancake zoom or the gm1. Nice and small.

 

[hyperFocal]

Haha I had the em5 with 12mm 45mm 75mm. Really nice primes oly had... All sold off though. Maybe the em10 wih that new pancake zoom or the gm1. Nice and small.

Yeah, indeed! Oly makes excellent lenses! Looking forward to their wide pro zoom. If it's good, may get back on the m43 wangon.

 

[ZoomZ]

Based on pcmag review of these 2 FE lenses, 55FE scores highest 3,700 lines at F5.6-F8
35FE scores highest 3,537 lines at F8.

This will be a good guideline of dxomark for 35FE, which should be lower in score vs 55FE.

35FE:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428066,00.asp

55FE:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428068,00.asp

Any guesses for how the 35FE will score on DXOMark? I predict that it will get an even higher score than the 55FE on sharpness, simply because 35mm lenses usually do. Will be a bit embarrassing if it actually gets a higher sharpness score than the Otus, but then it will be largely because it's a 35mm F2.8 lens, and the lowest sharpness will be very high already.

 

[ricleo]

Any guesses for how the 35FE will score on DXOMark? I predict that it will get an even higher score than the 55FE on sharpness, simply because 35mm lenses usually do. Will be a bit embarrassing if it actually gets a higher sharpness score than the Otus, but then it will be largely because it's a 35mm F2.8 lens, and the lowest sharpness will be very high already.

DXO test results for 35 FE has been released. 35 1.4 sigma scores better and it is on a D800. imagine how it may perform on a D800e. 55FE also outperforms 35 2.8, but respectable performance from the small 35 2.8

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Sony...2.8-ZA-mounted-on-Sony-A7R-versus-competition

 

[tsammyc]

Yeah. Good call by ZoomZ. The extra 541g of weight went to good use.

 

[ricleo]

Extrapolating, the 35mm F2IS will likely be around 24-25P-Mpix with the A7r since it's center is a tad sharper (edge performance trails the Sigma) and the A7r has no AA filter. So Canon's sharpest lens still trails both the Otus/D800 and 55FE/A7r by a considerable margin of 4P-Mpix. It also implies that Canon's sharpest lens cannot fully resolve 36MP. If so, what hope do Canon's lesser lenses have?

so based on your extrapolation a lens that is 4P-Mpix cannot fully resolve 36MP. The FE 35 2.8 is a whopping 7P-Mpix behind the FE 55 1.8, does that mean it can't resolve 36MP?

Sometimes you just have to think less and enjoying shooting more. no need to keep relying on test charts and data to imagine how lenses will perform vs each other

 

[Thoth]

so based on your extrapolation a lens that is 4P-Mpix cannot fully resolve 36MP. The FE 35 2.8 is a whopping 7P-Mpix behind the FE 55 1.8, does that mean it can't resolve 36MP?

Sometimes you just have to think less and enjoying shooting more. no need to keep relying on test charts and data to imagine how lenses will perform vs each other

Everything is relative rite? If it has a Zeiss badge, it better be able to resolve the full 36MP sensor on the A7R... If not why r we paying such a premium on the FE 35/2.8? Not tat I own one... :bsmilie:

 

[ricleo]

Everything is relative rite? If it has a Zeiss badge, it better be able to resolve the full 36MP sensor on the A7R... If not why r we paying such a premium on the FE 35/2.8? Not tat I own one... :bsmilie:

haha... not every lens that has a zeiss badge is awesome la... for example the ZA 85 1.4 performance is quite average compared to a much cheaper sigma 85 1.4. Leica also has its under performers, Canon L lenses also have their not so good performers.

 

[tsammyc]

so based on your extrapolation a lens that is 4P-Mpix cannot fully resolve 36MP. The FE 35 2.8 is a whopping 7P-Mpix behind the FE 55 1.8, does that mean it can't resolve 36MP?

Sometimes you just have to think less and enjoying shooting more. no need to keep relying on test charts and data to imagine how lenses will perform vs each other

I wasn't suggesting that it's not worth it owning a lens that cannot resolve the full resolution of the sensor. I was just responding you your statement that your Canon lenses could easily resolve 36MP. Sorry if the post offended as that was not the intent.

I think the Otus performance has many Nikon D800E owners wondering about whether the camera has exceeded the ability of their lenses to resolve. You might know that the Nex-7 was already quite unforgiving and very few lenses resolved 24MP due to it's pixel density. But it still sold well.