is b + W filter good?

[creampuff]

Lest anyone get all worked up over what is alleged to have been said by an OP staff, let's get this whole thing in perspective. OP is just one of several shops that carry B+W filters. Most local shops get theirs from CP, the local distributor. OP may get theirs from elsewhere but to my understanding the ones they sell aren't fakes or knockoffs of the real thing.

B+W does produce their UV filters in the traditional brass mount and now I'm told in lighter alu versions but with the same optical glass. So if any fingers should be pointed, it ought to be at Schneider for producing 2 versions of their UV filters. It's just a filter... what's there to get worked up over? :bsmilie:

 

[Yatlapball]

Yep, like I mentioned before, Schneider were abit of a schmuck to have made the same thing in varying quality "for different markets". But black-mouthing other shops/companies are still unethical business practices.

Soon we will have dinky $1,000 1DsMkIII and 600/4 made in a sleepy little village somewhere for "different markets". :bsmilie:

 

[contaxable]

hi all,
i've recently brought a b + w filter , 77 MRC 010M uv-haze filter from orient photos
after 3rd day it actually crack with no reasons attached. i haven't dropped my filter or knocked against anything. it's perfectly alright when i kept it in my dry cabinet, and somehow it cracked. could it be a manufacturing problem? i went back to orient photos and they wouldnt change a new one and i've explained in details that it's perfectly alright when i place in in the dry cabinet. they asked me to email to B+W for a refund.

what should i do?:bheart:

Being glass, there might have been a minor crack line along the threadding which cannot be seen with our eyes. When you used it and tightened it further by twisting the frame, it might have given way due to that.

Frankly, I do believe that brass mount filters are alot tougher and serves their purpose well in protecting from knocks. A good old filter is quite heavy actually. Modern filters are, to me, somewhat frail and delicate esp for the extra slim ones. But of course, the coatings & hue would be what we are after.

I believe B+W would be willing to hear your woes. Maybe you could write up to them to seek recovery for damages. Since B+W are making very good margins by selling single element optics, they should be interested to keep you happily quiet with a Christmas gift.

Wish you luck.

 

[psychobiologist]

i believe poor quality rims may lead to distortional forces when overtightened after all glass is still shatterable or may have microscopic ares of weakness when not well casted.

aluminium ring is disturbing though.. unless they use aluminium alloys, i.e. aircraft grade which is very rigid.

 

[psychobiologist]

actually talking abt.. filters.. it suddenly occured to me that its not difficult to pirate.. or is it?

through back door obtain a good OEM supply of rims.. and.. just dump in any glass etc.. and tada.. filter completed..

anyone has a good side by side comparison between b+w filters for different markets? i.e. glass material, color, thickness, etc?

 

[ExplorerZ]

actually talking abt.. filters.. it suddenly occured to me that its not difficult to pirate.. or is it?

through back door obtain a good OEM supply of rims.. and.. just dump in any glass etc.. and tada.. filter completed..

anyone has a good side by side comparison between b+w filters for different markets? i.e. glass material, color, thickness, etc?

I think the most obvious way to check for quality is to look out for reflection, good coating allow much more light to pass thru therefore much lesser reflection of the glass.

 

[contaxable]

actually talking abt.. filters.. it suddenly occured to me that its not difficult to pirate.. or is it?

through back door obtain a good OEM supply of rims.. and.. just dump in any glass etc.. and tada.. filter completed..

anyone has a good side by side comparison between b+w filters for different markets? i.e. glass material, color, thickness, etc?

If some countries can make fake eggs, fake rolex, fake LV, a non authentic single element coated filter could be done blindfolded by these experts.

But, again, I hope the thread starter should take up matter with the manufacturer. It could be a manufacturing defect or mishandling due to shipping afterall. If OP is not confident it is authentic, I dont think OP would dare to recommend their customers to go back to B+W.

Just my opinion...

 

[sexalicious]

and they could say so loudly cathay selling old stocks.

 

[Cheesecake]

and they could say so loudly cathay selling old stocks.

wow...

 

[sexalicious]

daring yeahs?

 

[sexalicious]

To be honest, there's this lady boss there whom challenged me to bring the filter back to B + W and i'm very tempted to do so. Like i said before, i have the entire conversation recorded so before anyone accuses me of empty talk, i would gladly pm them the link to the recorded file. for a fact, they did dare me

 

[sexalicious]

to report this to schneider but yet at the same time, the lady n one of the male chinese staff claims that cathay sells old stock. I will iterate this, i have recorded evidence of this.

 

[sexalicious]

they have good service, that i will not deny. I have bought one camera body n 2 lenses from them already and though my purchases pales in comparison to others, they are not miniscule either. However, to accuse me of trying to profit or benefit from one paltry $120 filter is absurd to say the least.

 

[sexalicious]

Anyway, my intention is to only warn others of my plight. It may sound like i'm out to get them but lets the assumptions flow. Good service doesn't equate to fair trading practices and as for slime-ing Cathay, i think that is a new low. They are afterall, the official distributors of B+W filters in Singapore and i believe if they should want to take this up with Schneider, OP would shake in their pants.

 

[Cheesecake]

Anyway, my intention is to only warn others of my plight. It may sound like i'm out to get them but lets the assumptions flow. Good service doesn't equate to fair trading practices and as for slime-ing Cathay, i think that is a new low. They are afterall, the official distributors of B+W filters in Singapore and i believe if they should want to take this up with Schneider, OP would shake in their pants.

hmmm... was CP informed of it?:think:

 

[tc811]

I tried Hoya filter once for 2 different thread. But somehow, one of them the rim comes out and the glass is protuding out. Since then, i've switched to B+W and so far nothing happen. Recently i've also switched to Schneider Digital which is meant for digital camera. Now i dun dared to use Hoya filter anymore.

 

[kangmf]

I have two B+W 77mm filters both MRC. One bought in Jan 2006 and the other in May 2006.
Both from different shop in Singapore. The one bought in May 2006, the coating has started to peel off latey.

 

[creampuff]

TS to my knowledge I know of no shop here offering any warranty implied or otherwise for filters. Once you take possession of the item and walk out of the shop you're on your own. I doubt anyone will in their right mind offer any warranty because it is difficult to prove that the crack was a manufacturing fault or due to negligence or some other reason.

Rather than continue this tirade against OP, perhaps you should put yourself in their shoes. How can they verify that the crack wasn't caused by your actions? Why should they be obligated to refund or exchange? Filters are made of glass. Glass can crack. Just your misfortune that your filter cracked. Get over it.

 

[SFS]

hmm, from my experience, i felt tat B+W lens r very gd. I was on a overseas trip...screwed a B+W 77 Pro filter on Canon 17-35 lens. somehow someone accidentally dropped my lens..the filter absorbed the shock and crack instead of the front lens elements..(the crack wasnt too bad)

i would say it was dropped somewhere around waist level onto the hard concrete flr..gd thing the lens was in the pouch at tat time.

so dont leave home w/o a filter on ur lens. if got budget, go for B+W lah.. i own quite a no of B+W filters..

 

[sexalicious]

Dear creampuff, i have put myself into their shoes, please do not assume otherwise. I have till date not put any pictures of the cracked filter. After putting up pictures and hearing the recorded conversation, perhaps you want to re - consider your assumption that i don't give them due credit. Like i've said before, i do not doubt their customer service standards but in this case, i did not start out the conversation rudely nor did i intend to bluff them of a filter undeservedly. For your info, i had accidentally dragged my 70 - 200 lens on the ground before but it was purely accidental and i've not done so after. I've been rather careful with my equipment and it wouldn't make sense for me to treat my thousand dollar lens with neglect or to toss them around friviously. and dear cream puff, have you ever bought a B + W filter from cathay before ? they do give a warranty against manufacturer's defect and i'm quite confident this is a manufacturing or perhaps a "version" discrepancy....