I have 10K to spend on camera gear...


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EosDslr said:
70-200 f/2.8 IS

How about sigma 120-300 f2.8 instead?

about the same price as 70-200 IS, but you can get f2.8 at 300mm!!
 

EosDslr said:
Ok.
So which of these ultra-wides should I get - The 17-40 f/4 or the 16-35 f/2.8?

So it's not worth the money to even upgrade to 20D?

Was pondering to buy the following lens with 20D for the 1st option:

16-35 f/2.8
24-70 f/2.8
70-200 f/2.8 IS

Thought it might be a good combo...

or get 20D/1D with:

16-35 f2.8
50mm f1.4
85mm f/1.2
135mm f2
1.4 X tele
300mm f2.8

im sure you'll be happy!
 

benleez said:
Save up the money for now... wait for Medium Format Digital price to drop, then go for the kill!!! ;) ;)
Medium format the way to go for landscape! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Digitial Medium Format is not within my reach yet.
Unless the price really drops.
Yeah. Definitely must go for a KiLL then.... ;)
 

EosDslr said:
I agree fully with what you said.

Lens make up the major bulk of the photography equation.

In fact, I love my existing 10D.

actually another way to put it is that, technology of body will supercede itself..
lens dont..
unless canon comes up with a LLL lens


u just solved yr own probs :D

save the moola for the 20d and go for l lenses..


btw since u are intending to spend moola for a 20d..
why not let me put it to good use for u ? :blah:
 

benleez said:
Save up the money for now... wait for Medium Format Digital price to drop, then go for the kill!!! ;) ;)
Medium format the way to go for landscape! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

By the time that happens, airasia will be flying to the moon for $199. :bsmilie:
 

EosDslr said:
In fact, I love my existing 10D.

Me too! We may be using an outdated model but it can still produce incredible pictures as long it's in capable hands. The temptions to move on to a newer or more advance models will always be there but we just need to constantly remind ourselves whether getting such camera bodies can significantly improve the quality of our work.

For me, I know the answer ... if I'm shooting crap with 10D, I'm quite likely to shoot more crap with a 20D, 1D MKII or 1DS MKII! :bsmilie:
 

Wai said:
How about sigma 120-300 f2.8 instead?

about the same price as 70-200 IS, but you can get f2.8 at 300mm!!


But the Sigma does not support IS.
No doubt it has a longer reach at f2.8.
 

Adam Goi said:
For me, I know the answer ... if I'm shooting crap with 10D, I'm quite likely to shoot more crap with a 20D, 1D MKII or 1DS MKII! :bsmilie:

Why is that so? Higher MP, Bigger file size, so your CF card will store lesser crap :D
 

EosDslr said:
Ok.
So which of these ultra-wides should I get - The 17-40 f/4 or the 16-35 f/2.8?

So it's not worth the money to even upgrade to 20D?

Was pondering to buy the following lens with 20D for the 1st option:

16-35 f/2.8
24-70 f/2.8
70-200 f/2.8 IS

Thought it might be a good combo...


Ahh, now we are finally seeing some choices here! ;p Question is whether you need to use the f/2.8 often and do you mind the bulk and weight. If not, the 17-40 is excellent in its own right. Probably not worth to spend another 1k or so to get the f/2.8 if you don't need to shoot that wide open.

Of course if you got $$$ to burn, then get all the 3 f/2.8 you mentioned! Fantastic combi that will see you thru most photo jobs. But only if you are in the spending mood. Seriously, again, do you need the f/2.8. And also the IS. Product shots, landscape. I don't see much need for f/2.8. Maybe portraits.

My opinion is the upgrade from 10D to 20D is pretty insignificant. But... AGAIN! If you feel like the itch to get the latest techno stuffs because you have extra cash to dump somewhere, then... Hey, no stopping you!

Sometimes it's hard to draw a line in photography between personal needs and pure indulgence (luxury)!
 

acetylcholine said:
actually another way to put it is that, technology of body will supercede itself..
lens dont..
unless canon comes up with a LLL lens
QUOTE]

So the general consensus is to purchase the L lens and ignore the body upgrade. :thumbsup:
 

EosDslr said:
But the Sigma does not support IS.
No doubt it has a longer reach at f2.8.

Well.. IS not really useful unless you are shooting at shutter speed less than 1/focal length and max only 2-3 stops slower than that

Also, unless you are shooting something stationary, you will end up capturing the motion blur which is something that IS cannot prevent
 

Hmm, on second thots, I wish to correct myself... upgrade from 10D to 20D may be significant to some... The noise control of the 20D at high ISO rocks over the 10D! That alone could be a huge motivating factor for some to change bodies.

You can also use the 2 new EF-S introduced by Canon. (Forget about the 18-55.) Watch out for the up and coming 10-22... Heard good reviews about it. That could be the golden answer to your wide-angle issue.

Other things like 6MP to 8MP upgrade, 5fps, E-TTL II, longer batt life... dunno how that will make a huge impact on you.

If you are concerned about these, then maybe consider... again your needs and how often you shoot at high iso.

So sorry... don't seem to be easing you here in your dilemma!
 

hmm you mentioned that you take mainly landscape, food etc. :think:

Currently you already have 28-135 IS.

What you lack now is a wide-angle lense. You can go for 17-40/16-35. If you require more wide then go sigma 12-24 or upgrade to 20D and wait for 10-22 lense.

All in all you will spend around $3-4k most (20D + 1 wide angle lense). You can then spend another $4k to backpack around europe/US and actually MAKE USE of your new equipments and have remaining $2k as savings/emergency travel fund :D

This is better than spending all $10k on equipments but stuck in sg with no much landscape to shoot. :bsmilie:
 

Wai said:
Well.. IS not really useful unless you are shooting at shutter speed less than 1/focal length and max only 2-3 stops slower than that

Also, unless you are shooting something stationary, you will end up capturing the motion blur which is something that IS cannot prevent

Thanks for the clarifications.
 

Hi fellow shutterbugsss.

I gotta ciao.

need to catch some sleep.

See you guys again.

Been nice talking to you. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
 

my dream combination:

wide: 16-35mm f2.8. ~$2.2K
standard zoom: 24-70 f2.8 ~$2.2K
Telephoto zoom: 70-200 f2.8 + 2x teleconverter ~$3.1K
Macro: 100mm f2.8 Macro ~$900
Flash: Speedlite 580EX ~$800
Tripod: Gitzo CF + Markins Ball Head ~$1.1K

See how easy it is to blow $10K without even considering a new body?
 

knoxknocks said:
my dream combination:

wide: 16-35mm f2.8. ~$2.2K
standard zoom: 24-70 f2.8 ~$2.2K
Telephoto zoom: 70-200 f2.8 + 2x teleconverter ~$3.1K
Macro: 100mm f2.8 Macro ~$900
Flash: Speedlite 580EX ~$800
Tripod: Gitzo CF + Markins Ball Head ~$1.1K

See how easy it is to blow $10K without even considering a new body?

u forgot small but expensive stuff like battery, backup battery, backup backup battery, CF card, backup CF card, Image tank, camera bags, and also a powerful computer with software like Capture 1 and photoshop :D
 

You seriously think it'll make a difference which one you get? If you don't know why you need to upgrade, don't.
 

Adam Goi said:
Me too! We may be using an outdated model but it can still produce incredible pictures as long it's in capable hands. The temptions to move on to a newer or more advance models will always be there but we just need to constantly remind ourselves whether getting such camera bodies can significantly improve the quality of our work.

For me, I know the answer ... if I'm shooting crap with 10D, I'm quite likely to shoot more crap with a 20D, 1D MKII or 1DS MKII! :bsmilie:
More detailed crap! :bsmilie:
 

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