High megapixel size and handshake
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it jus made our tasks harder.ortega said:
try it. u'll love it. :bsmilie:
ortega said:
I do not totally agree with this statement.
Handshake is caused by many factors. But when every other factors are the same, the higher mp camera can make the problem worse. It is pure physics and mathematics.
Handshake blur is caused more by angular movement than linear (or lateral) movement of the camera. The same angular movement (i.e. same shake) will cause the same amount of information of the image to spread over the same area over the sensor plane. The smaller the pixel means more pixels is covering the same area and thus the blur is easier to "split" over to other pixel. I do not intend to go through the mathematics here but those who study it should know the theory.
For a similar form factor camera (e.g. D1x vs D2x), it is easier to have a blur picture if using the same lense and standing at the same place to cover the same image (and of course assuming having the same handshake). As some one pointed out, a D200 may be more difficult to handle as it is lighter and easier to make a movement than a D2x. This is other factors that complicated the issue (therefore I use D1x and D2x as example as their form factor are similar).
When you want to blow up the picture, then the lower pixel count of D1x may not be able to give you clear picture (as the information there is less) if you go beyond certain size. Some time people mixed this up with handshake blur.
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there's another D40 due to be announced soon... its meant to replace the D50.ortega said:
no info as of yet..
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i agree with the fact that a higher MP camera will be able to record finer details and camera shake, but it is the user that is at fault and not the camera.
let's say you are shooting birds with a 600 f4, don't tell me you are going to do it hand held or use an unstable tripod? it is the user who do not know how to use the equipment.
for those who can do it handheld then good but if the user can't then it is his fault for doing so.
Higher mp camera like the D2x and D200 can be very unforgiving if one just snap away very quickly as the shots will not be sharp.
When I first got my D2x, I realized that a number of my pics of events are not sharp at all. Initially I was quite puzzled until I started to look into the various possibilities. I realised that the shots where I was snapping away are the ones that are not sharp. It is a user problem and fault. Nowadays, every shot no matter how fast, is shot deliberately ie. look composed and squeeze the shutter no more the bad habit of snapping away.
When I first got my D2x, I realized that a number of my pics of events are not sharp at all. Initially I was quite puzzled until I started to look into the various possibilities. I realised that the shots where I was snapping away are the ones that are not sharp. It is a user problem and fault. Nowadays, every shot no matter how fast, is shot deliberately ie. look composed and squeeze the shutter no more the bad habit of snapping away.
My experience whan I started with film SLR long time ago was that I tend to snap the shutter and move off quicklly which caused a lot of blurred pics because the haste to move sometimes makes you forget that the shutter might not have closed yet. Best is to keep still and wait till you see the mirror comes down before relaxing. Photography needs a lot of patience. 
Good examples.
A "normal" practice may become a "bad" habit with advacement in technology. Therefore we have to be fair to ourselves that it is not the human being that is to be blamed all the time. Advacement in technologies "forces" us to adopt more "good" habits.
We should avoid using irrelevant examples, like hand-holding a 600mm f2.8 lense (that won't work for all cameras including film camera) to get sharp pictures.
A "normal" practice may become a "bad" habit with advacement in technology. Therefore we have to be fair to ourselves that it is not the human being that is to be blamed all the time. Advacement in technologies "forces" us to adopt more "good" habits.
We should avoid using irrelevant examples, like hand-holding a 600mm f2.8 lense (that won't work for all cameras including film camera) to get sharp pictures.
I don't own a D80 and my experience is only that few moments I tried it during Comex. I think it might be worse. The mirror box seems to have a slightly higher vibration than D200. Plus it is very light and might be prone to vibrations. However, the problem with D200 is that the balance is not right unless you use it with the MB-D200. Still I find that the hand shake is controllable. But nothing beats D2X.RT9 said:
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So far with the light body and light kit lens, I don't have much problem yet. I guess with proper care and technique, you don't have to bother so much in what difference the few 100 gram make. I am one that will lug my tripod around whenever possible... even in broad day light...
i am not too sure too.
if we put the mechanical aside for a while.
is there a possibility that the software in the D80 make or tune for a better finished picture than a pro D2?
prosumer out of cam picture vs pro out of cam picture.
i also feel that the default sharpness in the D80 looks equivalent to my +2 sharpness setting on my D200. or is it just me?
if we put the mechanical aside for a while.
is there a possibility that the software in the D80 make or tune for a better finished picture than a pro D2?
prosumer out of cam picture vs pro out of cam picture.
i also feel that the default sharpness in the D80 looks equivalent to my +2 sharpness setting on my D200. or is it just me?
I think the tones are much smoother for images out of a D200 and D2X than D80. One way to test is to count the number of distinct colours in the same shot made by the D200 and D80 to make a comparison. My opinion of the D80 samples found over the web are that the images seems more contrasty and the colours more saturated.RT9 said:
Is the D2X really that good? do you own 1?lsisaxon said:I don't own a D80 and my experience is only that few moments I tried it during Comex. I think it might be worse. The mirror box seems to have a slightly higher vibration than D200. Plus it is very light and might be prone to vibrations. However, the problem with D200 is that the balance is not right unless you use it with the MB-D200. Still I find that the hand shake is controllable. But nothing beats D2X.
Eh? That I don't know.willdon said:
But I sure hope they are otherwise it would not be fair. I form my opinions of the D80 based on some images posted by one of our fellow CSer here...http://krazewerks.multiply.com/photos/album/21
...and others from other websites.
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/nikon/d80-review/gallery.shtml
http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/NikonD80_imagesamples.shtml
As for D200 and D2X, they are set at 0 for everything and WB at Cloudy.
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