Here comes Nikon D200... finally a reality


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agape01 said:
In the case of Wai, aiya just let him cut off the soft corners or spend countless time on DIing the images.
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no lar, i never need to crop off the corner cos mine already auto-cropped to 1.3x

even if the corners are soft, I can live with it and my clients also will not notice it because they look at the overall pictures, not just the corners

in fact, i never DI my image anymore with 1D MKII, no need to shoot in RAW and waste time converting it to jpeg, cos even jpeg is beautiful enough straight out of the camera.

BTW, average how much time do u need just to convert D2x NEF to jpeg using NC4? :D
 

Wai said:
no lar, i never need to crop off the corner cos mine already auto-cropped to 1.3x

even if the corners are soft, I can live with it and my clients also will not notice it because they look at the over pictures, not just the corners

in fact, i never DI my image anymore with 1D MKII, no need to shoot in RAW and waste time converting it to jpeg, cos even jpeg is beautiful enough straight out of the camera
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Yah, kinda far fetch from the discussion. I always thought you start with composition within the frame rather than framing with the thought of cropping it off for better quality.
 

mpenza said:
if you feel 10-20 is a substitute for Nikon 12-24DX, so be it ;p To me, it's a substitute for 10-22 in terms of focal length but not performance :sticktong
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And 16-35 with 5D is? Even 17-40 and 5D have such results, I shudder at the thought of the 16-35 and 5D.:sweat:
 

litefoot said:
Yah, kinda far fetch from the discussion. I always thought you start with composition within the frame rather than framing with the thought of cropping it off for better quality.
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Then no digital FF + wide then. Coz composition might as well be easier for a 1.3x crop or 1.5x crop and knowing that the corners are not a worry.
 

Wai said:
no lar, i never need to crop off the corner cos mine already auto-cropped to 1.3x

even if the corners are soft, I can live with it and my clients also will not notice it because they look at the over pictures, not just the corners

in fact, i never DI my image anymore with 1D MKII, no need to shoot in RAW and waste time converting it to jpeg, cos even jpeg is beautiful enough straight out of the camera
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Actually, the 1.3x is a very good compromise. The "auto-cropped" as you say give good quality moderately wide images with existing lenses and still is decently priced bodies.
 

Watcher said:
Then no digital FF + wide then. Coz composition might as well be easier for a 1.3x crop or 1.5x crop and knowing that the corners are not a worry.
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Gosh, I hate to see a discussion degrading to a single sided shallow defence for the DX format.
 

EH..... the drama....still going on? really like those never ending stories...

milos dragging himself to the fridge and grabbing another pack of beers .... continuing its drinking biege....

cheers...

ordering pizza and pop corns too. anybody ... joining me?
 

I am joining you Milos...til tomorrow at least, 1st Sept rite?
 

not sure.... seems to be 'god knows wat episode is this' episode...

milos pass billitone a can.... and also a chair to sit on

want kacang or pop-corn or pizza?

cheers!! going to be a long session on this, i presume
 

litefoot said:
Gosh, I hate to see a discussion degrading to a single sided shallow defence for the DX format.
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yup, haven't heard film users complaining so much about soft corners.

Anyway, for most of us, it doesn't really matter what format (full frame, crop, etc) or lenses (DX, EF-S, digital zuiko, "normal", etc) were used. As long as the clients/audience and photographers are happy with the pictures, it's good enough. The equipment used are just that.... tools to be used.
 

billitone said:
I am joining you Milos...til tomorrow at least, 1st Sept rite?
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Yah, less than 24 hours. Most prob dpreivew already had some stuff just waiting to be uploaded.
 

mpenza said:
yup, haven't heard film users complaining so much about soft corners.

Anyway, for most of us, it doesn't really matter what format (full frame, crop, etc) or lenses (DX, EF-S, digital zuiko, "normal") were used. As long as the clients/audience and photographers are happy with the pictures, it's good enough. The equipment used are just that.... tools to be used.
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This is probably because film is more forgiving then digital. Take for example the D2x. Its perhaps the most unforgiving camera in capturing the flaws of the optics. For example.. the 14mm f/2.8 is beautiful on film, but when it come to the D1x.. err.. I think Bjorn rates is at 3.5.. and I agree.. its really not designed for digital sensors.

One reason why DX was created. To address this problem..
 

Milos said:
not sure.... seems to be 'god knows wat episode is this' episode...

milos pass billitone a can.... and also a chair to sit on

want kacang or pop-corn or pizza?

cheers!! going to be a long session on this, i presume
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pass me one of those lite ones (can't hold my beer)!!! :thumbsup:

in anticipation of a non-event on 1/9 (regarding the D200)... just gives another excuse to drink more lite beer!! :bsmilie:
 

Cactus jACK said:
pass me one of those lite ones (can't hold my beer)!!! :thumbsup:

in anticipation of a non-event on 1/9 (regarding the D200)... just gives another excuse to drink more lite beer!! :bsmilie:
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CJ, Milos and nw75 -->
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CJ, pass me cold one, will ya?
 

litefoot said:
Gosh, I hate to see a discussion degrading to a single sided shallow defence for the DX format.
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Shallow for you maybe but it seems the readers have seen the arguments going both ways.

Basically, DX format are overall cheaper and give better quality for almost equivalent functionality.

"There is none so blind as they that will not see", doubly ironical for photographers.
 

Billitone... just finished the first can... going for the second one...
Milos .... hick ...hick......Zzzzzz .... hick hick...
Cactus JAck.... catch (milos throwing one can over)
nightWolf75... (milos throwing the last can)

eh bring over some more beer and also kacang please?

anybody else joining me?
 

Milos said:
Billitone... just finished the first can... going for the second one...
Milos .... hick ...hick......Zzzzzz .... hick hick...
Cactus JAck.... catch (milos throwing one can over)
nightWolf75... (milos throwing the last can)

eh bring over some more beer and also kacang please?

anybody else joining me?
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HICK! HICK!
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wait while i make a dash to 7-11...
 

hick hick hick..

don't forget the bear!!:cheers:
 

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