felixcat8888
Senior Member
You sure? Then why do so many of us own the FA Limiteds?
HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
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You sure? Then why do so many of us own the FA Limiteds?
Thanks.
I think 20-23mm: F2.8 certainly pulls me towards this over the 21ltd. (except size.... )
PhilipKr35
Senior Member
Looks bigger than limited but as light! Test it!
Tiredofallthese
Senior Member
Wah....me too 20-23 f2.8 is certainly attractive....been struggling whether invest in k3(i hv k5iis and k30 already) or these da20-40. Now with bro fw reviews....its really pulls me towards this lens.....i only have one opportunity one shot to get one of these.....cant buy both....bleeding lolxxxx
Tiredofallthese
Senior Member
Hahhaa ya it is bigger...jus imagine its a combination of da21,35 and 40....lolxxx....and 1 thing it uses filter 55mm....hmmm....
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My is diff problem... to sell my current nikon system to Pentax system or not.... ... Think not wise to maintain 2 big chunky system..... reason for going Pentax is their lenses and good bro here.... kekeke
1. Keep my D610 and get a XE2 for walk about
2. Sell D610, get K3 and Sony A7...
3. Sell D610, get Sony A7 and XE2.... the advantage of this is 2 small body.... but worried about AF....
4. Buy all.... Most ideal. .... but $$$ boh gao kai..... *sweat* kekekeke
Tiredofallthese
Senior Member
Wahhhhhh.....i just maintain pentax already bleeding liao lolxxx....
SyncGuy
New Member
Hmm... Good choices.. It's either option 2 or 3.
What kinds of genre and style of photography do you find yourself shooting most of the time?
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because good bro you buy all the Pentax trinity lenses..... kekekekeke......
nowadays is Portraits more.... wish have more time for landscape and architectural shoot.....
Pentax just have that.... well.... cannot explain what is pulling me.... believe its like Fujifilm...... its the lens collection...... damn the FF bug..... if I can get over it.... decision is really very easy really....
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SyncGuy
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Haha! Then it'll be best that you go for option 1.
If you want small and have the dough, it'll be option 3..
Haha! Then it'll be best that you go for option 1.
If you want small and have the dough, it'll be option 3..
haaa thanks bro..... likely to be... but who know..... maybe get Pentax K3 to cure the posion and get a Fujifilm PNS..... the XQ1 for general walkabout..... haaaa.....
flame angel
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I do not wish to refute what you had said. However, can I put it bluntly to say that Pentax marketing for their lenses naming convention is not very good back then? It could have been naming them in a better way. In a sense that they called the FA as lenses of which built for film camera. Unfortunately this has created a backfire that the FA may not be very good for use with digital camera. It then has DFA which said to have built for digital camera. The DA, DAL & DA* also clearly said to have built for digital camera.
Furthermore, the FA lens which made for a full frame camera, when use with an APS-C camera, we are only using the centre of the field. This is where the lens performs best. In future if Pentax does have the full frame camera, can we expect them to release lenses such as DFA of FA HD? What is the HD definition do you think?
To clarify what I posted in my previous thread, I did not mentioned about the FA limited. The reason being I have not used it before, my experience is based on the FA 50mm f1.4. And it is just an opinion given to the person who asked it. I would like to maintain this as a constructive discussion & do not wish it to become a flaming session.
Thank you.
felixcat8888
Senior Member
HD is the coating on the glass to replace the original SMC coating. Yes, Pentax naming convention is a bit funny but it is the way they decided to do it under the old Pentax management.
D-FA are lenses meant for Full Frame and Digital, but then some DA lenses can be used on our film bodies without any vignetting. I have used the FA50/1.4 when I got my K20D and I did not have issues with it. My copy was sharp. I sold it off because I bought the FA43/1.9.
Anyway, maybe you can try another copy of the FA50/1.4 to see if you get the same CA,PF or flare even.
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Look at it this way.
Pentax is responsible enough to say that they feel that their film era lenses are not optimized enough for digital, which needs the light to strike perpendicular to the sensor.
So they designated DFA and DA to represent lenses that are more optimized for digital.
They can't do much about the FA designation since that was before digital.
HD is the coating type, just like SMC and ghostless coating.
FF coverage is difficult to be good all the way through to the edges and corners while keeping a sane size to the lens.
Look at the FF lenses from Canikon.
Many have poor edges/corners and vignette quite a bit.
One way will be to make bigger lenses where the image circle is larger and the 135 format sensor 'crops' that image circle.
Some of the newer lenses with better performance is made this way (Nikon 14-24; Lots of the new Sigmas)
That said, that does not mean that film lenses don't work well on digital.
Thats been proven time and time again with such lenses on Canon FF cameras, be it old M42 mounts, Nikkor pre-AI; Contax CY; OM and of course butchered Pentax K-mount lenses.
In fact, old lenses often lack that clinical 'need to please every lens review lab test' criteria, resulting in their own character.
Very unlike lenses nowadays, which often aim to get good lens reviews by flat field sharpness, very low CA; distortion, abberation control, etc tests, which often boosts user base ego and thus lens sales.
I often find that its exactly those lenses that have poorer CA control that often abberates at the focus transition edges (esp. in high contrast ares), resulting in a very thick 'outline'/drawing of the subject.
Think about it like drawing a cartoon with a HB pencil or a 2B one. (HB being fine edged and capable of sharpness, but not thick enough an outline to 'define' the subject well enough on the paper).
The 2B one (the old lens) does that more often imho. (at least some the better ones; esp. Pentax ones)
Of course this is my own preference.
I use my Takumars on a FF.
They work fine.
In fact they work great.
Add to the fact the unique Pentax small form factor for the lenses, they are something that no other manufacturer has.
And I consider them to be 'tier 2' Pentax lenses (ie. not *, ltd, some are not even SMC)
So Pentax FF, if it ever comes out, will be unique.
Unique because of the camera and the nice performing small lenses.
And I will still use the FA or older lenses on them.
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fengwei
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I kinda agree w flame angel here. After playing e DA20-40 for a while, I think Pentax finally got the lens coating right. Most Pentax lenses have pretty bad CA problem, including FA Limiteds and DA* lenses. They are pretty good in flare control due to our fantastic SMC coating (which evolved to HD coasting now), but somehow we are a bit lagging in CA control. Our lenses are sharp, produce great colors, but when we taking photos of some very contrasty subjected with bright edges, we often end up w some funny purple/blue colors on the edges which are not easy to clean up if you don't know how.
Good news is now w DA20-40 limited lens, this isn't a problem anymore, or at least it's reduced to minimum. I hope Pentax can retrofit all current lenses w their latest coating technologies so we'd see many improved MKII lenses. Add WR seals in our FA Limiteds, that's more useful than FF.
Good news is now w DA20-40 limited lens, this isn't a problem anymore, or at least it's reduced to minimum. I hope Pentax can retrofit all current lenses w their latest coating technologies so we'd see many improved MKII lenses. Add WR seals in our FA Limiteds, that's more useful than FF.
SyncGuy
New Member
Have to agree with you after trying it out together! Haha!
Goat damn sharp with REALLY smooth bokeh from wide open! Wow!
ageha
Senior Member
Your D610 covers already everything.
felixcat8888
Senior Member
nowadays is Portraits more.... wish have more time for landscape and architectural shoot.....
Pentax just have that.... well.... cannot explain what is pulling me.... believe its like Fujifilm...... its the lens collection...... damn the FF bug..... if I can get over it.... decision is really very easy really....
Come, buy the K3, then you would have fulfilled your desire as a Pentaxian. Join the Bright Side, come away from the Dark Side . . . kekeke
SyncGuy
New Member
But it's not lighter than the XE2 I believe..
But actually, why not d610 + m4/3?
I've always think that it should be either:
a) m4/3 + FF
b) APSC + MF..
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