Fujifilm F200EXR is a GEM


True, I totally agree that its the person behind the equipment, ok ok , I can see that you're "the person" and a very serious one ...

Just for your information, I am not a food photography expert; the shot was taken by chance and not meant to show how good my shot is (maybe the word delicious has misled you), it is the only shot I have taken at low light, ISO 400; my intention is to show how clean F200EXR can be even at the black area and underexposed areas if handled correctly; as compared to your ice cream man shot.

Due to some reason, IMO, your low light shots seems to be noisier than it should be; noise should not be so pronounced at ISO 200.. note the blotchy noise at the underexposed area.

BTW, not talking about composition and lighting control here, its a equipment discussion thread on F200EXR.

Cheers!

try not to use photobucket.. the images are horribly compressed resulting in seriously digusting artifacts... v:sweat:
 

http://imageshack.us/

using this.. i was the TS for F200EXR sample photos.. even my ISO800 photos aren't as blotchy as yours @ ISO200... the image compression online is really terrible for photobucket...

Yeah, this is true. I use Photobucket and the images are less sharp than the original. Sharp objects become blur. :angry:
 

http://imageshack.us/

using this.. i was the TS for F200EXR sample photos.. even my ISO800 photos aren't as blotchy as yours @ ISO200... the image compression online is really terrible for photobucket...

You're right, when I review original photo enlarge to max size 500%, no noise is visible on the screen. Thanks for the site.
 

As my shots (ice cream vendor) was a candid one taken manual at a split of a few sec. No time for white balance and other adjustment

Your overall bedroom pic is not even sharp in focus at full aperture F2.8. No fine details of the bedroom and small items.
Take a look at this pic from my album taken on the very night after I bought the Fuji F200EXR. Hand held also ISO 200 DR100 F3.9 @1/8 sec. One light source of 20w warm tone energy saving bulb made in China. Try matching my shot at the same level of settings.

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Much better than the Ice Cream man shot. But, not as sharp as I would like leh.
 

You know Daniellam, for the past five years I have been using PnS camera for all my food and general shots (for a few restaurant menu). From a 3.2mega to a 7.2mega and now the 12 mega Fuji. Later I will post some food shots taken with a 3.2 mega P&N camera.
I don't own any DSLR , but I have 3 Mamiya 6x7, 3 Nikons and a 645 Bronica.
Sometime I believe its the person behind the camera and not the equiptment.

Hi. My personal view. I dont find your photos any gd at least before PP. For the ice-cream photo, framing is out and not sharp. Let us know your food photos were used for which restaurant.
 

Hi. My personal view. I dont find your photos any gd at least before PP. For the ice-cream photo, framing is out and not sharp. Let us know your food photos were used for which restaurant.

Sorry no names of advertiser and restaurant owners. Copyright issue.
 

Hi. My personal view. I dont find your photos any gd at least before PP. For the ice-cream photo, framing is out and not sharp. Let us know your food photos were used for which restaurant.
And I think you can't see what is sharpness in a photo or a picture, and you don't even have knowledge how to judge a good pic. My son when I took up Photography you're not even in this world yet.
 

For info purpose.

The resizing tool can also cause jpeg to soften a lot, especially tif to jpg. E.g Pixresizer.
When using software like Arcsoft Impression to add text and saving it, in some unknown condition can cause image to soften too.

Low contrast monitor (old model monitor, laptops) can see more noise than the high resolution ones. One suggestion is to reduce the contrast of the picture to reveal the noise but not as obvious as low contrast monitor.

For e.g in the buddha and statue photo, there is a lot of color noise around the cabinet and the ivory statue, and tall back frame on right side. Not suppose to be that prominent at iso200. *I must clarify I don't have a EXR200.
 

For info purpose.

The resizing tool can also cause jpeg to soften a lot, especially tif to jpg. E.g Pixresizer.
When using software like Arcsoft Impression to add text and saving it, in some unknown condition can cause image to soften too.

Low contrast monitor (old model monitor, laptops) can see more noise than the high resolution ones. One suggestion is to reduce the contrast of the picture to reveal the noise but not as obvious as low contrast monitor.

For e.g in the buddha and statue photo, there is a lot of color noise around the cabinet and the ivory statue, and tall back frame on right side. Not suppose to be that prominent at iso200. *I must clarify I don't have a EXR200.

Yeah that is true, but the colour blotches is only obvious when I increase the contrast and brightness of my monitor. Tone down the contrast and brightness and it will be more pleasing to the eyes.
 

What I meant is temporary push down setting for final quality check purpose. For plain surface like blackbackground, I tilt LCD downward to check for dim grey pixel. Or extreme set the gama to reveal large area.

BTW, do you know what is the DR stated in thread means? Is it dynamic range setting?

Why I ask is because iso200 should not produce such discoloration for this range of sensor. In my LX3 Dynamic Range setting, it does produce odd colors indoor which is why I don't use it anymore.

Yeah that is true, but the colour blotches is only obvious when I increase the contrast and brightness of my monitor. Tone down the contrast and brightness and it will be more pleasing to the eyes.
 

For info purpose.

The resizing tool can also cause jpeg to soften a lot, especially tif to jpg. E.g Pixresizer.
When using software like Arcsoft Impression to add text and saving it, in some unknown condition can cause image to soften too.

Low contrast monitor (old model monitor, laptops) can see more noise than the high resolution ones. One suggestion is to reduce the contrast of the picture to reveal the noise but not as obvious as low contrast monitor.

For e.g in the buddha and statue photo, there is a lot of color noise around the cabinet and the ivory statue, and tall back frame on right side. Not suppose to be that prominent at iso200. *I must clarify I don't have a EXR200.

Thanks for pin pointing on the monitor issue. I have crop part of the original pic and post another of the same photo, and there seems to have less visible noise, no PP.

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Pls don't mind, I cropped a section of your pic, push gamma and contrast up a bit to show you what I see on my screen. Will delete away later.
BTW, what is the text DR means in your post?

You can see the discoloration on these area. Underexpose at iso200 will not produce such blotches. So I am suspected some kind feature being turned on which should be avoided.

I am never bothered by sharpness problem since it can be PP.

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Thanks for pin pointing on the monitor issue. I have crop part of the original pic and post another of the same photo, and there seems to have less visible noise, no PP.
 

And I think you can't see what is sharpness in a photo or a picture, and you don't even have knowledge how to judge a good pic. My son when I took up Photography you're not even in this world yet.

No offend but age doesn't mean anything when it comes to photography at all. If not, I think all professional photographers will have to be 70 or 80 years before their works are consider excellent. And frankly, since you said u never own a dslr, I never heard a photographer using pns cameras for serious work such as photos for food menu.

Though I am not gd in photography at all, I can still judge the quality of a photo. I have doing PP works professionally for so long that I can tell what is wrong with a photo.
 

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Pls don't mind, I cropped a section of your pic, push gamma and contrast up a bit to show you what I see on my screen. Will delete away later.
BTW, what is the text DR means in your post?

Sorry to inform you I beg the difference from my original pic. I did the same as what you
did. increase the brightness and white level after the re-cropped. But is so much different from your version, colour solid and no noise.

I think the lost in details and loose colour pixels are due to the compression of the jpg pic, as what Weixiang has pointed out. My Original is as good as what I expected.
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No offend but age doesn't mean anything when it comes to photography at all. If not, I think all professional photographers will have to be 70 or 80 years before their works are consider excellent. And frankly, since you said u never own a dslr, I never heard a photographer using pns cameras for serious work such as photos for food menu.

Though I am not gd in photography at all, I can still judge the quality of a photo. I have doing PP works professionally for so long that I can tell what is wrong with a photo.

For Your Informations I am the first food & Jewellery Photograqpher in Singapore, to use PnS camera for my Professional works and I have earn enough money to buy myself a brand new car, just one month ago during this recession period. Can you match that!
My Jewellery & food Pics taken with a PnS camera is as good as any DSLR camera.
Some of my Pics are even done on a 3.2 mega C...on camera @ less than $100 in today market. Can you do it!
What is PP works, its just simple manupilation of the Photoshop tools thats all, that was when I start to use Photoshop 15 yrs ago when the Mac classic exist.
 

For Your Informations I am the first food & Jewellery Photograqpher in Singapore, to use PnS camera for my Professional works and I have earn enough money to buy myself a brand new car, just one month ago during this recession period. Can you match that!
My Jewellery & food Pics taken with a PnS camera is as good as any DSLR camera.
Some of my Pics are even done on a 3.2 mega C...on camera @ less than $100 in today market. Can you do it!
What is PP works, its just simple manupilation of the Photoshop tools thats all, that was when I start to use Photoshop 15 yrs ago when the Mac classic exist.

I did a Google search and could not find your portfolio. Can you please direct me? Thanks!

(By the way, most professional photographers are not rich, they are just passionate - being able to buy a car with your photos does not prove that your photos are better.)
 

Hi guys, can you comment whether the unsightly blotches for the below-attached picture (produced by F31fd at ISO400) is as unsightly as andikong's pictures? I also used Photobucket to resize my photos. Thanks.

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Hi guys, can you comment whether the unsightly blotches for the below-attached picture (produced by F31fd at ISO400) is as unsightly as andikong's pictures? I also used Photobucket to resize my photos. Thanks.

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Hi, I think its due to the compression of photobucket.

I've uploaded (please scroll up) 2 test images (No PP) that was taken at ISO 400, DR 400% (100% Crops) included; of which one is severely underexposed on purpose. IMO, are surprisingly clean, with lots of detail preserved) by PnS standard. Cheers!
 

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