Fujifilm F200EXR is a GEM
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SD960 IS has a small 1/2.3" vs F200EXR's 1:/1.6" which is one of the largest among PnS (except for DP1/ DP2); function wise, the Canon beats the Fuji hands down.
As I've not seen images from SD960 IS, but IMO, in terms of IQ, Fuji should be significantly better in terms of detail capturing & ISO performance due to its much larger sensor size. Again, as the images rendered by F200EXR is unique, I believe not everyone will appreciate it, but those who like it probably won't find another Digicam that render images similarly.
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The blue rendered by F200EXR is over saturated; the actual scene is correctly captured by the Pentax.
In terms of detail capturing, the Fuji's 6MP image is nowhere near to the >14 MP captured by K20D (Pentax is also known for its ability to capture large amount of details) with DA* optics.
Even for dynamic range, the F200EXR can't beat the RAW images captured by K20D; however, the IQ of F200EXR is impressive for a PnS, definitely not to be compared to a DSLR.
Remarks: IMO, I find the the EXR DR800% setting is practically useless due to the terrible image noise at this setting. ;p
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coffeedude
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Hi Daniellam,
How did you achieve the blurred background in your flower pic?
How did you achieve the blurred background in your flower pic?
The F200EXR is set to "Close Up" mode, other than that, I have no control over it as the aperture priority mode doesn't allow much control due to the absence of the aperture blades (from what I know, the aperture blades are not there); I guess the depth of field of the optical design shallow enough to blur the background at close range.
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redtealongan
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Impressive for a pns, but i think your pentax shot is certainly more saturated than the fuji in all the colours, the fuji one just looks slightly brighter with less DR.
I am referring to the saturated blue of the F200EXR shot
The colour rendered by Pentax is accurate without the blue cast; however, the F200EXR shot is still an eye candy
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My first post here. Hi everyone!
Anyway, I have a problem here. I am trying to achieve a photo where among a few figurines, the figurine on the left or right will be in focus while the rest are blur/out of focus. I played with the setting just couldn't achieve it with f200exr.
Please enlighten, pros! Maybe my setting is wrong. Thanks alot. Really appreciate it.
(I didn't really want to start a new thread on this)
Anyway, I have a problem here. I am trying to achieve a photo where among a few figurines, the figurine on the left or right will be in focus while the rest are blur/out of focus. I played with the setting just couldn't achieve it with f200exr.
Please enlighten, pros! Maybe my setting is wrong. Thanks alot. Really appreciate it.
(I didn't really want to start a new thread on this)
TheChef
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My first post here. Hi everyone!
Anyway, I have a problem here. I am trying to achieve a photo where among a few figurines, the figurine on the left or right will be in focus while the rest are blur/out of focus. I played with the setting just couldn't achieve it with f200exr.
Please enlighten, pros! Maybe my setting is wrong. Thanks alot. Really appreciate it.
(I didn't really want to start a new thread on this)
Show us your photo.
My first post here. Hi everyone!
Anyway, I have a problem here. I am trying to achieve a photo where among a few figurines, the figurine on the left or right will be in focus while the rest are blur/out of focus. I played with the setting just couldn't achieve it with f200exr.
Please enlighten, pros! Maybe my setting is wrong. Thanks alot. Really appreciate it.
(I didn't really want to start a new thread on this)
Hi,
Btw, I'm an enthusiast, not a pro
, as there is no aperture diaphragm, there is no effective way to control the depth of field on the F200EXR, (IMO) except to move further away from the subjects to take the shot in order to achieve a greater depth of field.Hope it works.
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Here's one pic taken in macro mode, manual setting @ ISO 400, DR 400, F5.1 1/105sec
I think Fujifilm needs to finetune the firmware because while the camera can take good photos, its settings range from good performance to extreme performance.
The problem is in EXR mode, it tends to more of the extreme settings (eg too high ISO) that are not optimal leading to more noise. Everything works well when I set it to Prog mode instead. I use EXR mode only when I need the dynamic range and when lighting is good.
Prior to getting the F200EXR, I have tried Olympus, Canon and Sony and at the same settings, the IQ are quite bad, especially in low light. I do believe panasonic IA mode may be able to do better but I have not used a panny in years.
Overall, one must bear in mind the best PnS is still far away from a DSLR for low light performance. Hence an LX3 at F/2 will not perform as well as a DSLR kit lens at f/4 in low light. That is why people pay more for a DSLR. (not true these days because the Pentax K-m will retail for $850 which is very close in price to the premium PnS!)
Overall the F200EXR is still a good performer. You just need to learn at what settings its at its best.
This candid pic was taken in available light from the ice cream vendor light source. Manual and hand held @1/4 sec F3.5, ISO 800 DR400 which I do think is as good as a DSLR shots.
The WALLS logo is very well in focus.
TheChef
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This candid pic was taken in available light from the ice cream vendor light source. Manual and hand held @1/4 sec F3.5, ISO 800 DR400 which I do think is as good as a DSLR shots.
The WALLS logo is very well in focus.
Disagree. There is a lot of smudging everywhere. Just look at their faces. I am thinking of upgrading to F200, but this picture raises the alarm bells. The F31fd performs much better in this aspect. I can use the f2.8 aperture and increase the to ISO800. Effect is much cleaner.
Just look at this picture, taken under very low lighting handheld using F31fd and you will know what I mean.
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Disagree. There is a lot of smudging everywhere. Just look at their faces. I am thinking of upgrading to F200, but this picture raises the alarm bells. The F31fd performs much better in this aspect. I can use the f2.8 aperture and increase the to ISO800. Effect is much cleaner.
Just look at this picture, taken under very low lighting handheld using F31fd and you will know what I mean.
I don't have a similar image for comparison, however, below is a shot taken indoors, flash off, at ISO 400. Its a clean and delicious as it can be. Cheers!
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I don't have a similar image for comparison, however, below is a shot taken indoors, flash off, at ISO 400. Its a clean and delicious as it can be. Cheers!
Your this food shot is a bit too dark and dull, bros you're still way far from good food photography. As for the sunset shot it's a very common subject and there is not much
composition in setting up your pic. Keep trying the F200EXR is indeed an excellent camera. Take a look at my macro shot above with 50% crop.
Hi, we are discussing a simple PnS, its not even a G10 where there is more control over exposure. A PnS is good for casual shots.
Regarding your macro and ice-cream man shots, I did not want to comment on the shots but chose to enjoy viewing the images as it is, as I understand the limitations of the F200EXR.
For serious discussion on composition, lightings, etc, the technicalities of photography; IMO, will be best discussed in a thread relating to DSLR.
Cheers!
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As my shots (ice cream vendor) was a candid one taken manual at a split of a few sec. No time for white balance and other adjustmentDisagree. There is a lot of smudging everywhere. Just look at their faces. I am thinking of upgrading to F200, but this picture raises the alarm bells. The F31fd performs much better in this aspect. I can use the f2.8 aperture and increase the to ISO800. Effect is much cleaner.
Just look at this picture, taken under very low lighting handheld using F31fd and you will know what I mean.
Your overall bedroom pic is not even sharp in focus at full aperture F2.8. No fine details of the bedroom and small items.
Take a look at this pic from my album taken on the very night after I bought the Fuji F200EXR. Hand held also ISO 200 DR100 F3.9 @1/8 sec. One light source of 20w warm tone energy saving bulb made in China. Try matching my shot at the same level of settings.
You know Daniellam, for the past five years I have been using PnS camera for all my food and general shots (for a few restaurant menu). From a 3.2mega to a 7.2mega and now the 12 mega Fuji. Later I will post some food shots taken with a 3.2 mega P&N camera.
I don't own any DSLR , but I have 3 Mamiya 6x7, 3 Nikons and a 645 Bronica.
Sometime I believe its the person behind the camera and not the equiptment.
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True, I totally agree that its the person behind the equipment, ok ok , I can see that you're "the person" and a very serious one ...
Just for your information, I am not a food photography expert; the shot was taken by chance and not meant to show how good my shot is (maybe the word delicious has misled you), it is the only shot I have taken at low light, ISO 400; my intention is to show how clean F200EXR can be even at the black area and underexposed areas if handled correctly; as compared to your ice cream man shot.
Due to some reason, IMO, your low light shots seems to be noisier than it should be; noise should not be so pronounced at ISO 200.. note the blotchy noise at the underexposed area.
BTW, not talking about composition and lighting control here, its a equipment discussion thread on F200EXR.
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Hey Dan why don't we meet up and exchange some experience, since we both do food photography and having the same Fuji camera. PM me if you keen!
