ortega said:go to the food courts and study the pictures, lighting POV.
Stereobox said:foodcourts..hmm..i guess that also depends on the kind of clients/projects you are working with.
another idea would be to check out restaurants/hotels menus, or take a trip down to Kino's or Borders and read up the food section for inspiration.
a chef or food stylist on set would help very much, in the arrangement of the food/ingredients.
if you want to create 'smoke' effect, can go to Cathay's studio equip section and buy a vapor-generating agent for ard 50-70 dollars.
glennyong said:i did walk around and studied them for a while. and since the person wanted to be shot in the studio with lightboxes, i think i need some help on that too...
since i have no experience in studio lighting and shooting at all!! ....
Stereobox said:if you want to create 'smoke' effect, can go to Cathay's studio equip section and buy a vapor-generating agent for ard 50-70 dollars.
glennyong said:will be shooting for a frenchman.... i have some experience in arrangment of food. but the problem is the lighting la... lol...
Stereobox said:personally, i find styling/arrangement of the food and getting the right camera angle is the most tedious part of the shoot.
lighting wise, if you are working with softboxes, you can try placing the main light behind and above the set, or coming from the side of the rear. placing it straight on or 45 degree *generally* isn't a great idea, but then again, there are no fixed rules. fill in with another box from the side, and create highlights, fill in shadows etc with snoots.
hey, im no expert, and lighting really depends on the kind of food, mood, camera angle etc you want to achieve. but generally the above should work for most kinds..
be careful of burn-out areas on white plates especially..
Cheesecake said:there's always photoshop for such effect. dun trouble urself further.
Stereobox said:lol you are right that smoke CAN be artificially generated in photoshop..
but hey, if you can avoid one less thing to do in post production, why not? very often, for eg, we ignore cleaning a product well during the shoot, claiming we can touch up the dirty spots in photoshop. but end of the day, the one doing it is going to curse and swear, wasting time cloning here and there. worse still, completely missing it or forgetting to do it altogether.
just sharing my humble opinions
ur suggestion of using cigarettes is a good alternative.Cheesecake said:yupz, point noted.
just sharing what i know...
u don't need smoke all the time for ur food photos. most often than not, it serves as a distraction to the main subject if it ain't projected in the right way.
certain food requires artificial smoke. most don't.
u can save urself the S$70. just buy a pack of cigarettes and a straw.
lit up a ciggie, inhale and blow into the straw. u'll get smoke. now, if only u know how to apply this effect to ur main subject.
cigarette's smoke is preferred more because of the way the smoke forms.
its no joke. :bsmilie:
scud said:ur suggestion of using cigarettes is a good alternative.
and the best part is that u need not to worry abt the food getting cold.
but the most tricky part (if any) is the sizzling hot sauce (where sometimes we can see some bubbles) being created if the sauce gets cold.
glennyong said:will be working in a studio, with western dishes.
from reliable sources, seems like theres 3 other photographers who are short-listed for the job.
but he is looking for young talents. so prolly i think onli...
so looking for suggestions...
its good exposure though...
another thing to take note if u are not allowed to use cigarettes, make sure u only shoot when the sauce are poured onto the food. the steamy hot smoke is best taken at this time. mistakes are no-no as probably there will be no more retake or reshoot.Cheesecake said:good pointer too!
add on...
best is to have the food served fresh, straight from the pan,wok... just after it has been cooked. abt 70% cooked, depending on the characteristic of the food itself. some food looks better fully cooked, most don't.
food changes state once it cooled down.
scud said:another thing to take note if u are not allowed to use cigarettes, make sure u only shoot when the sauce are poured onto the food. the steamy hot smoke is best taken at this time. mistakes are no-no as probably there will be no more retake or reshoot.
so, before u shoot, make sure u get all the settings correct.
aiyo, why there is headache?glennyong said:YES this is the one... the big problem... lol.... the settings will have to be done a few hours before the actual shoot to get the correct lightings and settings..
but all in all, 2molo i will see to what are the decisions being made ...