EOS M: M for Mirrorless

[An drew]

... true until the 5 axis stabilizer appear

I read on dpreview that the 5 axis stabilizer is somewhat similar to Canon's HIS.

From dpreview on the OMD:
The company has also totally reworked its built-in image stabilization system. The new design is described as 5-axis (translational movement vertically and horizontally, and rotational movement around 3 axes - shown below), in contrast to the previous system that only corrected for up/down and left/right rotation. If it works, the ability to correct for rotation around the lens axis caused by pressing the shutter button offers a clear advantage over in-lens stabilization systems. Meanwhile, correction for translational movements promises more effective stabilization for macro photography at high magnifications (like Canon's 'Hybrid IS'). The system continues to work in video.

 

[diver-hloc]

Having a very random thought... I know its quite impossible.... :think:

But if there is a EF - EOS M Adapter.... will there be one for EOS M - EF ?? :bsmilie:

 

[doodah]

... true until the 5 axis stabilizer appear

Works well from wide to slight telephoto lenses. But for super telephoto, say 300 mm (35 mm equivalent), in lens stabilization works better because the in-lens gyro is designed for those long focal lengths. On the flip side, in-lens stabilization costs more. Sometimes, they are not available too.

 

[nitewalk]

No mode dial? Anyway, for those talking about Olympus and Sony, I think one point we should note is that this camera would appeal to canon users. It seems clearly targeted at people who are currently owning a canon DSLR system or lenses. I would think that they are targeting different consumer groups. As a consumer, I can feel the greatest draw is the ability to mount EF lenses and this is a fact that they will probably play on in selling this camera. The fact that it's size is small, would appeal as a two part problem solved for those who own EF or EFS lenses with a canon DSLR but fInding a DSLR too heavy or cumbersome for daily use.

 

[Seadog]

Actually the Speedlite 90 EX seems more interesting. It's small, light and can act as a wireless master. The perfect hotshoe cover for 5D

 

[An drew]

Having a very random thought... I know its quite impossible.... :think:

But if there is a EF - EOS M Adapter.... will there be one for EOS M - EF ?? :bsmilie:

You are right that it is impossible. The register distance for EOS M is much shorter than that for EF or EFS. But impossible might be possible one day.

 

[giantcanopy]

Having a very random thought... I know its quite impossible.... :think:

But if there is a EF - EOS M Adapter.... will there be one for EOS M - EF ?? :bsmilie:

Nope

EF lenses longer flange focus distance, the EOS-M adapter just needs to add the appropriate thickness to allow focus to infinity on mirrorless.

The converse will not make optical sense. And if there is such an adapter made, it will need corrective optics itself to achieve focus to infinity, or else it will end up with extremely short MFD, effectively becoming macro if even workable..

Kinda like there is no working adapter to allow Leica M lens onto EOS bodies for instance.

 

[powergoo]

totally agreed

Actually the Speedlite 90 EX seems more interesting. It's small, light and can act as a wireless master. The perfect hotshoe cover for 5D

 

[doodah]

To be fair, the video all show pre-production model... and there is a slim hope that production model will be better in terms of AF capability.

I sincerely hope you are right. But so far, based on past experience, there is usually very little difference in performance between canon pre-production models and actual production units. If the pre-production copies cannot capture images right from the outset, then it's a different thing altogether. But if they can, they almost always reflect the final production quality.

 

[Anthony Lee]

No mode dial? Anyway, for those talking about Olympus and Sony, I think one point we should note is that this camera would appeal to canon users. It seems clearly targeted at people who are currently owning a canon DSLR system or lenses. I would think that they are targeting different consumer groups. As a consumer, I can feel the greatest draw is the ability to mount EF lenses and this is a fact that they will probably play on in selling this camera. The fact that it's size is small, would appeal as a two part problem solved for those who own EF or EFS lenses with a canon DSLR but fInding a DSLR too heavy or cumbersome for daily use.

I will be very surprised to see someone using his 24-70L on this damn thing, shooting at arm's length. For that matter, any L lens will look odd on it, don't need to mention PnS shooting style where most DSLRs owners are not accustom to. Personally, I will buy it for what it is, with its own native lenses, but then, I will have many other better choices.

 

[KY1977]

Anyone know if is possible to use my current sigma via the adapter?:dunno:

Hope Sigma starts making EOS M mount lens soon.

 

[nitewalk]

I will be very surprised to see someone using his 24-70L on this damn thing, shooting at arm's length. For that matter, any L lens will look odd on it, don't need to mention PnS shooting style where most DSLRs owners are not accustom to. Personally, I will buy it for what it is, with its own native lenses, but then, I will have many other better choices.

Yes but if you have a smaller prime you would be tempted to pair with this. I don't quite fancy mounting a 70-200 on this also. It is going to look quite strange.

 

[rhino123]

Well... for everyone (including myself) who complained about how slow the AF is, how ugly this camera look, no mode dial, no whatever dial, so small, etc etc... well... do take note that this is a pre-production set. There might be firmware upgrade to fix whatever problems we encounter with AF and stuff like that. Second, many of our conclusion came from youtube video... which might be misleading, because we do not know at what condition was the video been shot at.

As to ugly and stuff like that... well... it is very personal and to someone retro means good... to others, it was ugly like fxxx. Some would like the cosmetic appearance of the EOS-M, some hated it to core... same goes to Olympus, Panasonic's m4/3 cameras and Sony NEX, or Pentax K-01...

For me... I don't mind that cosmetic outlook, I hated the AF speed I saw on youtube video, but I will not discount it because the cam is, like I say, a preproduction unit... and might even be a faulty one... who knows?

 

[tecnica]

For sure, they prolly will not add more buttons and dials to the already very small body.

Menu diving just suck so much.

 

[esoeij]

My main concern is the AF speed of native lenses and EF/EFs lenses with adaptor. Not so concerned about the lack of knobs and dials and buttons. The touchscreen interface looks nifty enough. Can't really expect the EOS M to be a 1-for-1 replacement for a DSLR. EOS M has to be dumbed down here and there to differentiate it from the DSLR range.

 

[doodah]

Heard from the grapevine, we'll see an optional EVF for the EOS-M. Now, that'll be quite awesome. As for AF... can only cross my fingers and toes...

 

[ageha]

Heard from the grapevine, we'll see an optional EVF for the EOS-M. Now, that'll be quite awesome. As for AF... can only cross my fingers and toes...

How? There is no accessory port.

 

[sje4182]

How? There is no accessory port.

Maybe via the hotshoe ha ha....

 

[rhino123]

How? There is no accessory port.

Hotshoe lor.

 

[Shad0w]

imagine this with the 400mm F2.8 lens Nice!!! For me I think it depends on the sensor size. If the Sensor is at least APS-C size I will seriously consider! Good for travelling. Who knows might have a dual Digic 5 hahaha!

It is APS-C.
Http:/dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/