EOS 7D user,information sharing thread.


Do anyone know whether the e1 wrist strap will fit the eos7d. If not, is there any accessory wrist strap available? I want to know before deciding... as I usually carry my cameras one-handed
 

Do anyone know whether the e1 wrist strap will fit the eos7d. If not, is there any accessory wrist strap available? I want to know before deciding... as I usually carry my cameras one-handed

E1 Hand strap works with EOS 7D if you have the battery grip BG-E7. Without the battery grip, you can't attach the strap.
 


Conclusion from the review:

"The Canon EOS 7D is a great upgrade for anyone shooting with a Canon EOS Rebel/zzzzD/zzzD or zzD body. The least convincing upgrade will of course be from the Canon EOS 50D. To make this decision, you will have to evaluate how the 7D's enhancements affect you personally. Those not needing the 7D's responsiveness (faster frame rate, shorter shutter lag) and not needing its latest enhancements, but wanting even better image quality (and having the budget to support it) should step up to the Canon EOS 5D Mark II

The bottom line is that the 7D is Canon's new king-of-the-APS-C DSLRs - clearly the best yet. Though I would like to see sharper results at lower sharpness settings, the Canon EOS 7D turns in great performance and great image quality in a great package."
 

something to share about the AF characteristics of the 7D that i have noticed after using it for about a month.

Canon-EOS-7D-AF-Point-Coverage.gif


the AF points of the 7D cover a wider area than the square shows on the 7D (no AF point expension and no spot AF used).

The 7D also tends to focus on whatever is nearest to the camera. Hence, i have noticed that sometimes, even if one of the AF spots lights up as a positive confirmation, the area in focus can be somewhere slightly in front of the AF point (covered by the wider area).

to get around this, I use only the spot AF mode, not the regular square AF points. I will only use the zone AF/auto multi AF/AF expansion which only uses the normal square AF points when i am tracking moving items.

To be honest, the larger than usual AF coverage of each AF point irritates the hell out of me. but at least i can select spot AF for all the 19 points, so i can still use the 7D in the same way i use my 5D and have more "accurate" AF points.

This is where i miss the D700/300 number of AF points. although we may not need/use all 51 AF points, at least it means that each AF point will only AF within its specific square, not an area wider than the AF point.
 

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am i right to say sometimes it is not wise to hv an image that is too sharp??

if is too sharp for especially portrait shots, too many dark spots, marks and
wrinklers will be exposed and it would make the subject very unpleasant. :confused:

do you all agree? :think:
 

something to share about the AF characteristics of the 7D that i have noticed after using it for about a month.

Canon-EOS-7D-AF-Point-Coverage.gif


the AF points of the 7D cover a wider area than the square shows on the 7D (no AF point expension and no spot AF used).

The 7D also tends to focus on whatever is nearest to the camera. Hence, i have noticed that sometimes, even if one of the AF spots lights up as a positive confirmation, the area in focus can be somewhere slightly in front of the AF point (covered by the wider area).

to get around this, I use only the spot AF mode, not the regular square AF points. I will only use the zone AF/auto multi AF/AF expansion which only uses the normal square AF points when i am tracking moving items.

To be honest, the larger than usual AF coverage of each AF point irritates the hell out of me. but at least i can select spot AF for all the 19 points, so i can still use the 7D in the same way i use my 5D and have more "accurate" AF points.

This is where i miss the D700/300 number of AF points. although we may not need/use all 51 AF points, at least it means that each AF point will only AF within its specific square, not an area wider than the AF point.

Your points are reflected here:

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=870853

I suggest 7D owners with "problems" should give this a good read. It might help.
 

am i right to say sometimes it is not wise to hv an image that is too sharp??

if is too sharp for especially portrait shots, too many dark spots, marks and
wrinklers will be exposed and it would make the subject very unpleasant. :confused:

do you all agree? :think:
Unpleasant is subjective; what if it was a very old person, the wrinkles and what have you might show more character in your subject.
 

Your points are reflected here:

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=870853

I suggest 7D owners with "problems" should give this a good read. It might help.

yup, which is why is why i suggest that most people with the so called "problems" just don't understand their equipment well enough before they start whining on the internet forums kekeke.
 

yup, which is why is why i suggest that most people with the so called "problems" just don't understand their equipment well enough before they start whining on the internet forums kekeke.

To verify single shot AF accuracy, one can activate the center SPOT AF point, mount camera on tripod, point camera at a target with high contrast (black/white) and carry out a series of half-presses.

If the distance scale on the lens moves all over the place, AF is inconsistent and this is unacceptable.

If AF is consistent, one can verify if contrast based live view focusing results in the same AF position as normal phase based AF. If they disagree consistently, one has a front or back focus.

There is NOTHING complicated about this. If one finds this hard to understand, then one shouldn't be using a DSLR in the first place.
 

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To verify single shot AF accuracy, one can activate the center SPOT AF point, mount camera on tripod, point camera at a target with high contrast (black/white) and carry out a series of half-presses.

If the distance scale on the lens moves all over the place, AF is inconsistent and this is unacceptable.

If AF is consistent, one can verify if contrast based live view focusing results in the same AF position as normal phase based AF. If they disagree consistently, one has a front or back focus.

There is NOTHING complicated about this. If one finds this hard to understand, then one shouldn't be using a DSLR in the first place.

Is this a problem that you have?
 

To verify single shot AF accuracy, one can activate the center SPOT AF point, mount camera on tripod, point camera at a target with high contrast (black/white) and carry out a series of half-presses.

If the distance scale on the lens moves all over the place, AF is inconsistent and this is unacceptable.

If AF is consistent, one can verify if contrast based live view focusing results in the same AF position as normal phase based AF. If they disagree consistently, one has a front or back focus.

There is NOTHING complicated about this. If one finds this hard to understand, then one shouldn't be using a DSLR in the first place.

Hi doodah, btw have canon fix your problem yet? what did they say about your AF problems? Maybe you can post what they told you to help some of the members having problems with their 7d.
 

Ok, I've gotten my 7D back and now they are working fine it seems. A senior technician called me up and we spoke on the phone with regards to my AF problem.

Apparently, they found nothing to be out of order with the camera. He admitted that the camera and its AF system is new, and his findings were according to a set of testing as prescribed by Canon, and there may be more things that they have yet to discover with regards to how the AF would function and behave under different condition.

We had a discussion on how my own 'test' was carried out, and what could have influenced the AF to behave the way it behaved, eg. low/high light, flickers of flourescent tubes, contrast of subjects, plane of focus, etc.

Anyway, to cut the long story short, they did some 'electrical adjustment' and updated my firmware to 1.10 for me, and I took the camera and lenses home. I've been shooting with it during a conference trip, and the AF seemed to be more accurate.

I repeated the same test with the same parameters and lighting condition, and found that I'd still get 1-2/10 shots slightly out of focus, but this time round, they appeared soft rather than a complete miss.

I'm quite happy with the results so far. I told them, I'd rather the problem be a user's one, rather than a manufacturing defect. The technician also laughingly said that more firmware updates and tweaks may still be on the way, and i'm not sure if he was joking or not....
 

Ok, I've gotten my 7D back and now they are working fine it seems. A senior technician called me up and we spoke on the phone with regards to my AF problem.

Apparently, they found nothing to be out of order with the camera. He admitted that the camera and its AF system is new, and his findings were according to a set of testing as prescribed by Canon, and there may be more things that they have yet to discover with regards to how the AF would function and behave under different condition.

We had a discussion on how my own 'test' was carried out, and what could have influenced the AF to behave the way it behaved, eg. low/high light, flickers of flourescent tubes, contrast of subjects, plane of focus, etc.

Anyway, to cut the long story short, they did some 'electrical adjustment' and updated my firmware to 1.10 for me, and I took the camera and lenses home. I've been shooting with it during a conference trip, and the AF seemed to be more accurate.

I repeated the same test with the same parameters and lighting condition, and found that I'd still get 1-2/10 shots slightly out of focus, but this time round, they appeared soft rather than a complete miss.

I'm quite happy with the results so far. I told them, I'd rather the problem be a user's one, rather than a manufacturing defect. The technician also laughingly said that more firmware updates and tweaks may still be on the way, and i'm not sure if he was joking or not....


Hi thanks for the reply.

But are the electrical adjustments done to your lens or the camera's body? The 7d I find is a great shooting tool but I have yet to get adjusted to the AF on the camera. Maybe this new system requires me to change the way I shoot....

Its different from the old 20d I still have.. 20D have way more noise and the LCD is micro.... But the AF on my 20d is much easier to get used to..
 

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Hi doodah, btw have canon fix your problem yet? what did they say about your AF problems? Maybe you can post what they told you to help some of the members having problems with their 7d.

Tested with 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens which works perfectly on my 450D body.

Initial problem was AF inconsistency + front focusing.

AF is now consistent and accurate at 55 mm. But it gets progressively inconsistent towards the wide end.

AF tests were carried out in the presence of technician himself. It's a straightforward, valid procedure that is consistent with Canon's specs.

Camera + lenses still at service center. Sigh. I will rather have a working camera than a rush job. But it MUST work accurately and consistently.
 

Tested with 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens which works perfectly on my 450D body.

Initial problem was AF inconsistency + front focusing.

AF is now consistent and accurate at 55 mm. But it gets progressively inconsistent towards the wide end.

AF tests were carried out in the presence of technician himself. It's a straightforward, valid procedure that is consistent with Canon's specs.

Camera + lenses still at service center. Sigh. I will rather have a working camera than a rush job. But it MUST work accurately and consistently.

I've read your previous thread regarding your problem. I empathise, I've been in this situation before with a "dud/lemon" camera, but it was not a Canon. I hope yours gets resolved, at the very least, take comfort in knowing your issue is not widespread in the 7D community. Plus, the technician did show you a proper focusing 7D. Let's just hope yours gets fixed properly.

Cheers mate, get back to us on the outcome.
 

Anyone bought "Learn 2 shoot great video on your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom" video? Care to give feedback and rating? It cost US$135 and I'm contemplating whether to get it :sweat:
 

anyone exprienced a "freeze/busy" problem with their 7D? i just did last night when i turned it on and couldn't release the shutter and the lcd panel says busy... i had to remove the battery and put it back in to solve the problem. anybody knows what the cause of this problem?
 

read thru this thread and wonder is the cheapest 7D avail from SLR revolution? Are they selling at SGD 2220 before GST (free 2x4GB CF card)?
what is this thing buying direct from canon? where do i buy from? it is SGD 2220 as well?

intending to hoot one this weekend.
 

anyone exprienced a "freeze/busy" problem with their 7D? i just did last night when i turned it on and couldn't release the shutter and the lcd panel says busy... i had to remove the battery and put it back in to solve the problem. anybody knows what the cause of this problem?

Not for me :( Sounds unusual. Suggest u should bring it sc for checking
 

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