DSLR Magazine says the 5D II will be 21mp


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Be patient. Announcement on 18-Sep. Canon is rather confident they will shake Nikon to the roots with this release.

Don't hold back doodah. Tell us everything you know! Thanks for sharing.
 

Thats in 2 weeks time, yay!
 

Ok.. somebody's got to fan the fire right? :sweatsm:



Canon 7D. Now where's the budget FF cam? :sticktong

:Later,
 

how many MPs does the 7D have?:think:
 

Ok.. somebody's got to fan the fire right? :sweatsm:



Canon 7D. Now where's the budget FF cam? :sticktong

:Later,

Typo? :think:
 

We have word from Canon that it will be unveiling a new dSLR later this month. While the company didn't indicate which unit it will be, it did mention to us that it will replace a "long overdue model". We suspect that the new camera is the much anticipated successor to the EOS 5D launched 3 years ago.

It is rumored online that this dSLR will feature a 21-megapixel sensor and, like Nikon's D90, will be able to capture HD-quality movies. However, given that Canon is concentrating more on quality than cramming features into a camera, this is highly unlikely.

We were also told that this camera will be very exciting, and can possibly trump other shooters in its class easily. This will mean it has to go against Nikon's D700 and maybe Sony's rumored full-frame dSLR.

Check back with us soon as Photokina draws near. We believe Canon will make the announcement then.
http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2008/09/05/new-canon-dslr-due-end-of-september/
 

Seems like quite a substantial report, and possibly the most solid rumour so far...saw the whole translation over at dpreview forums.

So, to those hankering after "affordable" FF (like me), if the 5D MkII is REALLY 21MP, would you get it? For me I might think twice...coz as hobbyist, do we really need such a huge filesize/resolution? The 15MP of 50D actually would be better and more preferable. (or even the 12MP of the old 5D).

Perhaps I might just wait awhile more for a good deal on a used 5D....

Just my random thots while we wait impatiently for Canon to end this super long waiting saga.

That's why sRAW is a nice feature.
 

I feel Canon might not even announce 7D or 5D replacement, it might just release another video DSLR to play catch up to Nikon D90. Face it, a full frame mega-pixel giant semi-pro system is not going to generate alot of income to Canon. Moreover, Nikon have shown that it's not the megapixel that will make the picture sharp.
 

I feel Canon might not even announce 7D or 5D replacement, it might just release another video DSLR to play catch up to Nikon D90. Face it, a full frame mega-pixel giant semi-pro system is not going to generate alot of income to Canon. Moreover, Nikon have shown that it's not the megapixel that will make the picture sharp.

Firstly, products cannot be churned out overnight. The Nikon D90 was announced ~ a week ago. Do you think Canon can come up with a new sensor that outputs video and put out a new camera in one month's time just to compete?

Secondly, megapixels do make pictures sharper as long as you are comparing on the SAME SIZE (PRINT) SCALE. Try scaling the pathetic 12 MP FF to (the new Sony) 25 MP FF.

Thirdly, Sony is putting out the 25 MP A900. And Nikon will soon follow with an update on the D3. I challenge you to reiterate what you just said when the D3 update is released.

Fourthly, it is a myth to associate poor high ISO noise performance with increase pixel count. If that is indeed true, the pathetic 6 MP D70 will have better high ISO performance than the 10 MP D80, and the 12 MP D90 will be the worst. But the truth is just the opposite.

Fifthly, as photographers, you should stop analyzing noise performance at 100% pixel level. Compare at the IMAGE level.

Sixthly, one can always pretend that diffraction effects due to small apertures does not exist by using a low pixel count sensor. BUT the reality is that the phenomenon has ALREADY happened at the lens aperture blades (when closed down substantially) and the sensor only serves to record that reality. If you still prefer not to acknolwedge the truth, you can always down scale your 50 MP image to 6 MP and everything will be tack sharp. But this reminds me of an ostrich that buries its head in the sand in the face of danger.
 

what is the hype abt 21mp. it"s not like we use anything more than 10mp when we print.
 

Nah.... I am a canon user and I believe Canon will come up with 7D or 5D II, I just think there is no need for Canon to do the race to the top all the time, more importantly is good quality products. I love my 30D (Trusty performer) and my Ls to death but I myself is waiting for a good full frame eventually and I hope Canon do not rush. I personally prefer quality over numbers.

Firstly, products cannot be churned out overnight. The Nikon D90 was announced ~ a week ago. Do you think Canon can come up with a new sensor that outputs video and put out a new camera in one month's time just to compete?

Secondly, megapixels do make pictures sharper as long as you are comparing on the SAME SIZE (PRINT) SCALE. Try scaling the pathetic 12 MP FF to (the new Sony) 25 MP FF.

Thirdly, Sony is putting out the 25 MP A900. And Nikon will soon follow with an update on the D3. I challenge you to reiterate what you just said when the D3 update is released.

Fourthly, it is a myth to associate poor high ISO noise performance with increase pixel count. If that is indeed true, the pathetic 6 MP D70 will have better high ISO performance than the 10 MP D80, and the 12 MP D90 will be the worst. But the truth is just the opposite.

Fifthly, as photographers, you should stop analyzing noise performance at 100% pixel level. Compare at the IMAGE level.

Sixthly, one can always pretend that diffraction effects due to small apertures does not exist by using a low pixel count sensor. BUT the reality is that the phenomenon has ALREADY happened at the lens aperture blades (when closed down substantially) and the sensor only serves to record that reality. If you still prefer not to acknolwedge the truth, you can always down scale your 50 MP image to 6 MP and everything will be tack sharp. But this reminds me of an ostrich that buries its head in the sand in the face of danger.
 

what is the hype abt 21mp. it"s not like we use anything more than 10mp when we print.

Human nature, and that's what keep civilisation moving forward with more technology advancement (for better or worse). Personally I would also prefer increase ISO/AF performance vs MP. However, don't mind it if there is more, the advantage is the absolute image sharpness and detail rendition, and the ability to crop in more if necessary.
 

However, don't mind it if there is more, the advantage is the absolute image sharpness and detail rendition, and the ability to crop in more if necessary.
This will have to come from both the camera and the lens. Canon will need to revamp some of their older lenses in order to take advantage of the high MP.
 

However, don't mind it if there is more, the advantage is the absolute image sharpness and detail rendition, and the ability to crop in more if necessary.
The downside of such high resolving sensor is that you will need equally high resolving glass to get optimal image sharpness/details. Even L zooms might start to show their limitations, especially for the wides. Possibly more of the new 5DII owners would have to resort to switching their lens lineup to higher end L primes to squeeze the maximum quality out of that 21MP sensor. So you end up spending more moolah on quality glass (which is what Canon wants too lol)
 

The downside of such high resolving sensor is that you will need equally high resolving glass to get optimal image sharpness/details. Even L zooms might start to show their limitations, especially for the wides. Possibly more of the new 5DII owners would have to resort to switching their lens lineup to higher end L primes to squeeze the maximum quality out of that 21MP sensor. So you end up spending more moolah on quality glass (which is what Canon wants too lol)

i don't mind:thumbsup:
 

The downside of such high resolving sensor is that you will need equally high resolving glass to get optimal image sharpness/details. Even L zooms might start to show their limitations, especially for the wides. Possibly more of the new 5DII owners would have to resort to switching their lens lineup to higher end L primes to squeeze the maximum quality out of that 21MP sensor. So you end up spending more moolah on quality glass (which is what Canon wants too lol)


Cheaper grade of canon glass was designed in the days of cheap film cameras. When DSLR come about, its high cost precludes its acceptance in all but the wealthy hobbyist and professionals that could writeoff the cost as a business expense. Now sensors are increasing in quality and looks like a 40MP FF 1Ds Mk4 or Mk 5 would trump even a PhaseOne or Leaf Aptus digital back for a fraction of the cost. Once you hit the 10 MP and above, there is no longer reason to buy lower grade lenses, L lenses gives you the image quality, wide open and not having to stopped down to F5.6 or even F8 before image quality becomes acceptable. So stop buying EF-S and non L lenses and you will be good to go from now on.
 

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