Ditch your DSLR for the OMD?

[wonglp]

Personally, I haven't felt the difference between the Oly EVF and the Sony EVF. Tested a friend's Nex. They may be very slight. The difference between either of this and my G1's EVF, however, is huge... Lots of 'tearing'...

Don't find alot of difference b/w nex5N evf and pen vf2 in terms of resolution although on specs it is huge. The difference though is the focus peaking which is especially useful for manual lenses.

I switched from 60D to E-M5. The EVF is very different from an OVF, especially under difficult lighting. This is because the EVF depends on the sensor, which has limited dynamic range. In fact, the EVF will show high ISO noise under low light conditions because the sensor has to increase its sensitivity so that it can maintain the 60Hz refresh rate of the EVF (equivalent to taking 60x 1/60s shots every second). This is when an OVF, which is only limited by the sensitivity of your own eyes, shines.

Of course, the actual photo will not show the same noise if you mount the camera on a tripod and use a longer exposure to compensate for lower ISO (which is what I would do). But it is quite unsettling to see all the chroma noise in the EVF when you are composing the shot. The colour dots can also be distracting and make composition difficult.

I find it acceptable because I have grown accustomed to EVFs after using a Panasonic FZ18 (superzoom camera with EVF) for a few years before getting my 60D. But it can be limiting for some people.

Ya, EVF can be limiting for long exposure shooters using ND filter. For the most part it's acceptable, especially so for manual focusing and bright day light. Otoh, it can be very useful like ability to magnify which OVF certainly can't, in situations like macro, and manual focus.

 

[albertri]

Don't find alot of difference b/w nex5N evf and pen vf2 in terms of resolution although on specs it is huge. The difference though is the focus peaking which is especially useful for manual lenses.



Ya, EVF can be limiting for long exposure shooters using ND filter. For the most part it's acceptable, especially so for manual focusing and bright day light. Otoh, it can be very useful like ability to magnify which OVF certainly can't, in situations like macro, and manual focus.

Oh bro you must try the NEX7 EVF or A77 will bring mine next time we meet

 

[wonglp]

Oh bro you must try the NEX7 EVF or A77 will bring mine next time we meet

actually i thought nex7 & 5N evf same specs? But no thanks, i like my m43 :bsmilie:

 

[albertri]

actually i thought nex7 & 5N evf same specs? But no thanks, i like my m43 :bsmilie:

lols you pull the same line as I said when you ask me to try your Ricoh . I am still thinking very hard to get EM5 or stay with my EPL2 just get EVF coz shooting under then sun is just plain hard over LCD.

The OLED panel is the same but the optics is different I dont know man I tried the Sony's FDA-EV1S just not as crisp as the A77 built in EVF something really different with 5n EVF, that's why I want you to try it I promise I'll try your Em5 and Ricoh

 

[Jelline]

Hi, may I ask what are the lenses that has AF on em5 and what are the lenses that I haf to MF on EM5?
Found many valid reasons here that I found is urging me the same way to change from DSLR to m43...

 

[njchay]

Hi, may I ask what are the lenses that has AF on em5 and what are the lenses that I haf to MF on EM5?
Found many valid reasons here that I found is urging me the same way to change from DSLR to m43...

All the micro 4/3 lenses should be able to focus on any micro 4/3 bodies .

 

[betta01]

Currently using film slr, was thinking of getting the EM5 to as a 2nd body for those low light situation.
However the limited selection of M4/3 prime lens is holding me back.
The premium Olympus prime looks good and perform well but with only 24mm and 90mm (35mm equivalent) available, the choice is really limited.
35mm Nikon AIS prime is mine most used focal length.

 

[Sispecho]

Currently using film slr, was thinking of getting the EM5 to as a 2nd body for those low light situation.
However the limited selection of M4/3 prime lens is holding me back.
The premium Olympus prime looks good and perform well but with only 24mm and 90mm (35mm equivalent) available, the choice is really limited.
35mm Nikon AIS prime is mine most used focal length.

50mm and 40mm also got it well covered... Only thing missing for me is the 60-70mm range. Thkg of the sigma 30mm 2.8 but am.havin reservations...

 

[dereth]

Currently using film slr, was thinking of getting the EM5 to as a 2nd body for those low light situation.
However the limited selection of M4/3 prime lens is holding me back.
The premium Olympus prime looks good and perform well but with only 24mm and 90mm (35mm equivalent) available, the choice is really limited.
35mm Nikon AIS prime is mine most used focal length.

Why not consider the 20mm then? It's equivalent to 40mm.

 

[JW73]

Why not consider the 20mm then? It's equivalent to 40mm.

There are 17mm f2.8 Oly or the Viotglander 17.5mm f0.95 (manual). All equivalent to 35mm.

 

[koolcat]

Still trying to get use to the camera, i want to call out a page on the lcd where i can view the camera settings on the lcd without the viewfinder view.

So far so good.... this is what i did last week. so far the test result seems good...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398121116887326.93780.117981184901322&type=1

 

[vengels]

U mean live view on the LCD?..



I only know that when we press the button beside the EVF and we can switch between live view on the LCD and settings view..

 

[wonglp]

All the micro 4/3 lenses should be able to focus on any micro 4/3 bodies .

Currently using film slr, was thinking of getting the EM5 to as a 2nd body for those low light situation.
However the limited selection of M4/3 prime lens is holding me back.
The premium Olympus prime looks good and perform well but with only 24mm and 90mm (35mm equivalent) available, the choice is really limited.
35mm Nikon AIS prime is mine most used focal length.

The m43 lenses list (include 3rd party) can be found here, basically all will AF except those mentioned inside like the Voigtlander 25/0.95 and 17.5/0.95. There's quite many choices today compared to 2 years back, of course will never be enough If still not enough, there's also 43 lenses which will need adapter, AF is either slower or very slow and much bigger than equivalent m43 counterparts. If MF not an issue, there's too many manual lenses that can be adapted m43 system today (OM, EOS, Nikkor, M, LTM etc.)

 

[Jelline]

The m43 lenses list (include 3rd party) can be found here, basically all will AF except those mentioned inside like the Voigtlander 25/0.95 and 17.5/0.95. There's quite many choices today compared to 2 years back, of course will never be enough If still not enough, there's also 43 lenses which will need adapter, AF is either slower or very slow and much bigger than equivalent m43 counterparts. If MF not an issue, there's too many manual lenses that can be adapted m43 system today (OM, EOS, Nikkor, M, LTM etc.)

Your photos has amazed me on how much a m43 camera could do that I would have thought only possible with a DSLR...
The sharpness, clarity and color reproduction...

On a side note, I was previously considering a D800 for a few weeks, until one of my friend mentioned a few times to me that D800 is not my level, I should consider D600/D400 instead...
Currently still holding on to D5100..

 

[koolcat]

U mean live view on the LCD?..
I only know that when we press the button beside the EVF and we can switch between live view on the LCD and settings view..

the live view lcd is should be able to display the metering, iso and file recording settings and such, it is grey background with columns and rows. I manage to get it out once but somehow can't do it again. i try the evf button, can't.

 

[koolcat]

The m43 lenses list (include 3rd party) can be found here, basically all will AF except those mentioned inside like the Voigtlander 25/0.95 and 17.5/0.95. There's quite many choices today compared to 2 years back, of course will never be enough If still not enough, there's also 43 lenses which will need adapter, AF is either slower or very slow and much bigger than equivalent m43 counterparts. If MF not an issue, there's too many manual lenses that can be adapted m43 system today (OM, EOS, Nikkor, M, LTM etc.)

have you tried a manual focus lens before? how is the focusing? easy?

 

[vengels]

have you tried a manual focus lens before? how is the focusing? easy?

Why dun u set ur focus to manual focus and try it out since u have the E-M5?

 

[wonglp]

Your photos has amazed me on how much a m43 camera could do that I would have thought only possible with a DSLR...
The sharpness, clarity and color reproduction...

On a side note, I was previously considering a D800 for a few weeks, until one of my friend mentioned a few times to me that D800 is not my level, I should consider D600/D400 instead...
Currently still holding on to D5100..

Thanks for the compliment! I'm constantly amazed as well with m43 improving IQ.
Between the entry level APSC DSLR and m43, I think the line is really thinning with panasonic GX1,GH series and OMD for amatuer users. There will still be a place for FF dslr for sure. m43 is about compromising some IQ with portability. Everything is downscale and more cost effective down the line - bag, tripod, filters, SD card, harddisk, PC performance, etc, certain lenses are still quite expensive but the IQ is certainly there.

the live view lcd is should be able to display the metering, iso and file recording settings and such, it is grey background with columns and rows. I manage to get it out once but somehow can't do it again. i try the evf button, can't.

Try pressing INFO button, should help.

have you tried a manual focus lens before? how is the focusing? easy?

Yes, do use manual lenses. I would say relative, depends on your eye power and lens focal length and aperture ;p e.g. 35 F2 lens would be easier to focus than a 50F2 than a 50F1.4. But certainly very useable for me, plus there's magnifying capabilities with EVF. Night time, can be more difficult.

 

[albertri]

have you tried a manual focus lens before? how is the focusing? easy?

Like Bro Wonglp I also use MF lenses mainly on m4/3 (not EM5 yet) but there's a difference using AF lens just turn off AF and do manual Focus than using actual MF lenses Like bro WongLP said it's a personal preference it's slow but using MF lenses will make you think how to overcome that one example when shooting candids you could estimate the distance and pre-focus before you aim... also the larger the aperture and longer the focal length its harder to focus due to very thin DOF like for example I have 50mm f1.2 when shooting head-should no probs when you're shooting half or full body its getting harder same goes for 135 f1.8 its hard but the fun side is it brings out your creative thinking and makes you think of ways how to over come those problems

Try it you might enjoy it.

 

[koolcat]

Like Bro Wonglp I also use MF lenses mainly on m4/3 (not EM5 yet) but there's a difference using AF lens just turn off AF and do manual Focus than using actual MF lenses Like bro WongLP said it's a personal preference it's slow but using MF lenses will make you think how to overcome that one example when shooting candids is you could estimate the distance and pre-focus before you aim... also the larger the aperture and longer the focal length its harder to focus due to very thin DOF like for example I have 50mm f1.2 when shooting head-should no probs when you're shooting half or full body its getting harder same goes for 135 f1.8 its hard but the fun side is it brings out your creative thinking and makes you think of ways how to over come those problems

Try it you might enjoy it.

Great... waiting for my Leica R adapter then...