FrozenRiver
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Why... It's so useful. I've seen amazing photos made in this way. No wide-angle lens, no matter how wide it is, can do the job...
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Why... It's so useful. I've seen amazing photos made in this way. No wide-angle lens, no matter how wide it is, can do the job...
Besides ballheads, there are pan heads and gear heads I think.
You're right. The difference is in the number of segments. With the number of segments different, it means a difference in the length when kept, as well as the thickness of the last segment. Generally, thicker last segments = more stability.
Why bother about the branding? Can use, good to use, comfortable with it enough liao. Haha. Their G10 or G20 ballhead is more than enough for D90. Unless you test it with all the heaviest lenses and the battery grip.
And yes. Adapter plates are the metal plates, AKA face plates. Got a few ways of calling it ah. Haha.
Vibration control refers to the dampening ability of the tripod. How far the vibration travels, and how fast it is 'absorbed'.
Hope this helps, if anyone sees tt I'm wrong, kindly correct me.
errr.... no.
But it's extremely good value-for-money.
Sirui G10 and G20 are one of the few "arca-swiss style" ballheads that come included with the camera plate. Benro's KB-series and PhotoClam, Markins, etc don't.
* ok guys... as advised by mod, we should try to keep the discussions on this thread specifically to the D90 itself. Maybe compatibility with lenses/flash still all right, but tripod is going a bit off course already
lai lai lai all go DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Part IV to discuss about tripod.. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777271&page=7
jasonlingwj
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isn't stitchin in photoshop even better? lol
pasay
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nope. in-camera photo-stitching is actually new technology, and wasn't available yet during the time (about 2 years ago?) nikon was developing the D90, awesome camera that it is :devil:
ZerocoolAstra
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Pls share such photos. I'm truly skeptical that the image quality can approach, let alone better that of an image stitched using specific software Like PTGui, etc.
Besides ballheads, there are pan heads and gear heads I think.
You're right. The difference is in the number of segments. With the number of segments different, it means a difference in the length when kept, as well as the thickness of the last segment. Generally, thicker last segments = more stability.
Why bother about the branding? Can use, good to use, comfortable with it enough liao. Haha. Their G10 or G20 ballhead is more than enough for D90. Unless you test it with all the heaviest lenses and the battery grip.
And yes. Adapter plates are the metal plates, AKA face plates. Got a few ways of calling it ah. Haha.
Vibration control refers to the dampening ability of the tripod. How far the vibration travels, and how fast it is 'absorbed'.
Hope this helps, if anyone sees tt I'm wrong, kindly correct me.
errr.... no.
But it's extremely good value-for-money.
Sirui G10 and G20 are one of the few "arca-swiss style" ballheads that come included with the camera plate. Benro's KB-series and PhotoClam, Markins, etc don't.
* ok guys... as advised by mod, we should try to keep the discussions on this thread specifically to the D90 itself. Maybe compatibility with lenses/flash still all right, but tripod is going a bit off course already
i reply in DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 liao.. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
Hi Guys, I need to find out something very confusing for me.
I read up about Nikon DX format and well yes it stated that all DX format lenses used on a DX format body there will be no crop factor right? Just to ensure.
Anyway any lens to recommend for a newbie?
I'm using 18-108 ( kit lens ) and 50mm F 1.8, I'm still learning, pardon me. . i realised a lot of photos i took kinda Ewww =( . esp with 50mm F1.8 is it the aperture or metering that would cause more blurness? (Bokeh) I know F1.8 have the most shallow Depth of field. .
Thanks!! .. . I'm considering 35m DX F1.8 due to on crop factor and i can shoot better without standing so Far~~ away. . =( . . also 28-75 F2.8 ( tamron. . ) what your say? . . ^^"
I read up about Nikon DX format and well yes it stated that all DX format lenses used on a DX format body there will be no crop factor right? Just to ensure.
Anyway any lens to recommend for a newbie?
I'm using 18-108 ( kit lens ) and 50mm F 1.8, I'm still learning, pardon me. . i realised a lot of photos i took kinda Ewww =( . esp with 50mm F1.8 is it the aperture or metering that would cause more blurness? (Bokeh) I know F1.8 have the most shallow Depth of field. .
Thanks!! .. . I'm considering 35m DX F1.8 due to on crop factor and i can shoot better without standing so Far~~ away. . =( . . also 28-75 F2.8 ( tamron. . ) what your say? . . ^^"
ZerocoolAstra
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your 20 questions is very confusing to me too
welcome by the way.
Please highlight the website which said that DX lenses mount on DX body there will be no crop factor....
If you are not a seasoned film (35mm) SLR user, chances are you won't understand what all this 'crop factor' is about.
You mount the lens on the camera, look thru the viewfinder and all seems ok.
So in that sense, the 'crop factor' is not so critical to you.
To explain this crop factor in one post is kinda tiring. Besides, this topic has been explained to death numerous times over clubsnap.
Can try Googling for 'crop factor'.
The background is that the sensor on the D90 is smaller than the usual 35mm film, hence there is a 'cropping' of the image compared with the film SLR.
Why do you think that metering would cause blurness? Sounds to me like you just hantam all these new terms in without really understanding what they mean. Go slow... learn them one by one, otherwise you'll just confuse yourself totally.
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Nuh uh... Crop factor is still in I believe. Anyway, I think your kit lens is 18-105mm and not 18-108mm.
It's the aperture tt gives the bokeh. Metering is for exposure.
Nuh uh... Crop factor is still in I believe. Anyway, I think your kit lens is 18-105mm and not 18-108mm.
It's the aperture tt gives the bokeh. Metering is for exposure.
your 20 questions is very confusing to me too
welcome by the way.
Please highlight the website which said that DX lenses mount on DX body there will be no crop factor....
If you are not a seasoned film (35mm) SLR user, chances are you won't understand what all this 'crop factor' is about.
You mount the lens on the camera, look thru the viewfinder and all seems ok.
So in that sense, the 'crop factor' is not so critical to you.
To explain this crop factor in one post is kinda tiring. Besides, this topic has been explained to death numerous times over clubsnap.
Can try Googling for 'crop factor'.
The background is that the sensor on the D90 is smaller than the usual 35mm film, hence there is a 'cropping' of the image compared with the film SLR.
Why do you think that metering would cause blurness? Sounds to me like you just hantam all these new terms in without really understanding what they mean. Go slow... learn them one by one, otherwise you'll just confuse yourself totally.
Yup, reading up one by one. . i got friends came to confuse me :'( . . Sad then I got very blur about it. . .
I'm quoting certain statement they told me. . so I'm kinda
"? Uh. . that's not what I read up on! . . .What I'm confused right now is. . E.g 18-105 DX on D90 ( DX format ) does crop factor still apply?
@ Smiles88 : Erm 18-105 Typo ! :X LOL! . . I'm sorry =( !!
Ya so basically the main concern regarding the question is. person A told me DX lens used on DX body ( 18 -105 DX ) will be 18-105 don't need to X 1.5 and So on for other DX lens on DX body. . .
Person B tell me. 18-105 DX is a kit lens so no need to X 1.5. However, if buy a 35mm DX F1.8 , ( which is still a DX lens ) , this time need to X 1.5 crop factor. .
So person A or B is correct?
ah i go get my understanding right first. . I'll be back here again . =(
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pasay
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Yup, reading up one by one. . i got friends came to confuse me :'( . . Sad then I got very blur about it. . .
I'm quoting certain statement they told me. . so I'm kinda
What I'm confused right now is. . E.g 18-105 DX on D90 ( DX format ) does crop factor still apply?
@ Smiles88 : Erm 18-105 Typo ! :X LOL! . . I'm sorry =( !!
Ya so basically the main concern regarding the question is. person A told me DX lens used on DX body ( 18 -105 DX ) will be 18-105 don't need to X 1.5 and So on for other DX lens on DX body. . .
Person B tell me. 18-105 DX is a kit lens so no need to X 1.5. However, if buy a 35mm DX F1.8 , ( which is still a DX lens ) , this time need to X 1.5 crop factor. .
So person A or B is correct?
ah i go get my understanding right first. . I'll be back here again . =(
first off, "crop factor" refers to the field of view (when you look thru the viewfinder) in relation to the sensor size, NOT the lens (whether DX or not) nor the focal length. a DX camera like the D90 uses a smaller sensor compared to full-frame sensors of the D700, D3, D3x and D3s, hence it feels like the image is automatically "cropped". btw, full-frame means it is equivalent to the old 35mm film, the standard size of film SLR and predecessor of the dSLR.
basically, if you have a DX BODY like the D90, D300, D5000, D3000, etc, you will need to factor in the 1.5x crop factor, regardless if you're using DX or FX lens.
ZerocoolAstra
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But further to what pasay has said, I would just like to add that since you are effectively starting "from a clean slate", this crop factor is less of an issue to you.
Every lens that you mount on your D90 requires the application of the crop factor.
For example, if you find that your 50/1.8 feels too "tight", then the 35/1.8DX will give you a wider view.
If, instead of the 35/1.8DX, you mounted the 35/2 (an FX lens) instead, the field of view would be same as 35/1.8DX.
DX on lens just means that if you mount on an fX camera, there will be other limitations/restrictions. Don't need to concern yourself with that at the moment.
General rule of thumb: if you have definite plan to switch to an FX cam (eg D700) in the near future, then probably better to avoid buying DX lenses.
Every lens that you mount on your D90 requires the application of the crop factor.
For example, if you find that your 50/1.8 feels too "tight", then the 35/1.8DX will give you a wider view.
If, instead of the 35/1.8DX, you mounted the 35/2 (an FX lens) instead, the field of view would be same as 35/1.8DX.
DX on lens just means that if you mount on an fX camera, there will be other limitations/restrictions. Don't need to concern yourself with that at the moment.
General rule of thumb: if you have definite plan to switch to an FX cam (eg D700) in the near future, then probably better to avoid buying DX lenses.
pasay
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i agree with ZCA, if you've never used a full-frame (or film SLR for that matter), don't let the crop factor bother you. the 1.5x is just a comparison to 35mm film that film photographers were used to.
just look into your viewfinder and judge for yourself if the wide end of your 18-105 is wide enough, if not then get an ultra-wide like nikon's 12-24 or 10-24, or if the tele end is not zoom enough, get an 18-200 or 55-200. don't let the numbers bother you, important is what you see in your viewfinder.
just look into your viewfinder and judge for yourself if the wide end of your 18-105 is wide enough, if not then get an ultra-wide like nikon's 12-24 or 10-24, or if the tele end is not zoom enough, get an 18-200 or 55-200. don't let the numbers bother you, important is what you see in your viewfinder.
ZerocoolAstra
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if you're keen on a more detailed explanation, check out THIS thread and meet up with some of us. We'll be more than happy to explain what we know.Yup, reading up one by one. . i got friends came to confuse me :'( . . Sad then I got very blur about it. . .
I'm quoting certain statement they told me. . so I'm kinda
What I'm confused right now is. . E.g 18-105 DX on D90 ( DX format ) does crop factor still apply?
@ Smiles88 : Erm 18-105 Typo ! :X LOL! . . I'm sorry =( !!
Ya so basically the main concern regarding the question is. person A told me DX lens used on DX body ( 18 -105 DX ) will be 18-105 don't need to X 1.5 and So on for other DX lens on DX body. . .
Person B tell me. 18-105 DX is a kit lens so no need to X 1.5. However, if buy a 35mm DX F1.8 , ( which is still a DX lens ) , this time need to X 1.5 crop factor. .
So person A or B is correct?
ah i go get my understanding right first. . I'll be back here again . =(
It's best that you don't get mis-informed by your friends at the beginning, when you can't yet separate myth from fact.
kriegsketten
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Noobcake, I used to be in your shoes - understood all the wrong things.... until I've been corrected lol :bsmilie: Been there, done that! One thing that finally convinced me that I was wrong was going through Nikon website lens simulation - where you can apply DX / FX bodies, mixed and matched with both DX and FX lenses... The final conclusion is, DX/FX lenses on DX - you apply the 1.5 crop factor nevertheless! Hence, ZCA is CORRECT!
If you're not convinced you go try the lens simulator on Nikon USA's website... select DX body and apply both DX and FX of equal focal length... and see the difference... you'll see none... (crop factor already applied on both FX/DX lenses)
Here: Nikon Lens Simulator
If you're not convinced you go try the lens simulator on Nikon USA's website... select DX body and apply both DX and FX of equal focal length... and see the difference... you'll see none... (crop factor already applied on both FX/DX lenses)
Here: Nikon Lens Simulator
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in theory yes.. photoshop is able to automatically do it for you or you could do it on your own. there is no right or wrong on how you wan to get it done. everybody preference and skill is different. There are other software that is FOC could also do the same job as photoshop but in a little different way. ^^
Yup, reading up one by one. . i got friends came to confuse me :'( . . Sad then I got very blur about it. . .
I'm quoting certain statement they told me. . so I'm kinda
What I'm confused right now is. . E.g 18-105 DX on D90 ( DX format ) does crop factor still apply?
@ Smiles88 : Erm 18-105 Typo ! :X LOL! . . I'm sorry =( !!
Ya so basically the main concern regarding the question is. person A told me DX lens used on DX body ( 18 -105 DX ) will be 18-105 don't need to X 1.5 and So on for other DX lens on DX body. . .
Person B tell me. 18-105 DX is a kit lens so no need to X 1.5. However, if buy a 35mm DX F1.8 , ( which is still a DX lens ) , this time need to X 1.5 crop factor. .
So person A or B is correct?
ah i go get my understanding right first. . I'll be back here again . =(
very simple. any nikon dx body = 1.5x crop factor, regardless of dx or fx lens. 50mm dx lens and 50mm fx lens both give the same field of view on dx body = 75mm.
thats all you need to know regarding crop or non-crop sensor and the effect on field of view (for your purposes, anyway).
notsoclever
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http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458315
Else see post #9 and call/email them for their quotation. :thumbsup:
Edit- Sorry nvr see properly that u r asking abt used D90.
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