D7000 Discussion Thread II

[Daoyin]

After you learn your lesson, you become wiser and then learn to sit back and let the other new fools to take your place.

How true. Lemmnings there always will be.

 

[116520]

I have read 2-3 reviews about D7000 from internet but none of them talk about hot pixels... how come? :sweat:

 

[hawthorne907]

Maybe it is due to the 'heartware' of the user that's the main issue, exhorting others to find fault with seemingly minute flaws may give the false impression of a moral panic of a fatal flaw in the product. On the other hand, it could really be variables such as poor quality control for the singapore d7000 batch, or even our hot and humid weather that may increase the inclination towards the appearance of hot pixels.

 

[burboy]

Bro...if you're in the engineering field, you will know that every 1st batch of products will always have problems. The first batch of customers are the free QC for the company to test out their products. After feedbacks and such, the 2nd batch will be an improved model with updated firmwares and such. It's the ignorant fools that makes the most noise.

After you learn your lesson, you become wiser and then learn to sit back and let the other new fools to take your place. We the wise can't help but sit back a while longer for all the early adopters to spot the problems. When the model matures in the next batch cycle, we will come in and buy an improved product at an even lower cost.

hey early adopter are usually cash rich. :bsmilie:

 

[Churchwolf]

Anyone can answer my query... so hot pixels only appear with slow shutter speed?

Hot pixels have a tendency to appear when using slow shutter speeds because of the longer exposure using the sensor. Getting a photo in available light is all about "gain". The sensor needs to have enough cumulative light in order to form an image over the sensor baseline (black). You can increase the gain by ramping up the ISO settings on your camera, but you will get more noise because it simply drops the "background" threshold for sensing light. This means that you start getting interference from the normal background power running through the sensor. This is also another reason why many people observe "hot pixels" when they crank up the ISO. In fact, there are many people here who have seen these "hot pixels" when doing 30 second exposures at ISO~800 or so. While this may be vaguely interesting it is of no consequence in the real world as you would never shoot a long exposure at a high ISO setting. It simply doesn't make any sense.

Add to this the fact that you can very easily remove any single hot pixels in your post processing (though I can appreciate that this is not an option if you are shooting video), and that one rarely ever looks at an image at 100%, you will find that the majority of these problems are non-issues.

This is a problem that afflicts all digital cameras (all the way up to the D3S) and is a simple byproduct of the way in which the sensor operates. My recommendation would be to just not worry about it unless it really is destroying your home movies.

 

[HELLOSTEVEN]

Last Friday, I purchased my new camera (D7K) from South Asia Computer Ptd Ltd. So, I started to take photos with my familys by using this new toy. Im very happy about it.

On Sat & Sun during the shoot, sometime on & off I find that I unable to select the autofocus mode ( Press the AF-mode button and rotate the main command dial). I need to off the power to restart the camera or rotate the focus mode selector from AF back to M as well back to AP (numbers of time), then I able to select the autofocus mode:thumbsd:

So yesterday before lunch, I called the Nikon Service Centre (NSC) service hot line and a guy by the name of Mr Freddy Choo (Technical Support Excutive) picked up my call. After listened to my story and he suggested me to bring down the camera to NSC for checking. I also told him that I able to drop by during lunch time but is a bit rush for me and I need the camera urgently for next week appointment. He then ask me wherether can I drop by after lunch time and I may look for him at the NSC. He will assist me in checking the system (D7K).:thumbsup:

Nevertheless, I'll quickly apply leave and rush down to the NSC to look for him (without Q UP);p. At the NSC he inspected / checked my camera and he did tried to restart / rotate the focus mode selector and restoring the default settings, BUT ALL FAILED.

At that time I also discovered that my camera had some hot pixel and he suggested me to send in the camera for checking cum repair the focus mode function, as for the hot pixel he claim that after remapping the hot pixel might not able to remove it. I rejected his suggestion and I requested him (Nikon) to give me a letter (black & white), to proof that the camera has 2 main faults (camera fault and not due to damage), sothat I can go back to South Asia Computer Ptd Ltd for exchange / refund.

As I need the letter urgently because yesterday is Friday (less then 7 days of purchase), sothat I can go back to the shop (b4 the shop close on Friday) to exchange the camera. About 10 min later , Mr Freddy Choo informed me that he unable to offen me the letter and he suggested that I bring back my camera 1st, he will informed the sale dept to follow up my case and Monday he will give me a call to fix appointment for exchange the camera and he also inform me not to be worry about the 7 day exchange policy

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, A CARE SERVICE MAN FROM NIKON. But, I still need to wait for his call on Monday..:sweat: lets pray hard.

Today morning, Mr Freddy Choo from NSC called and informed that Nikon will exchange the camera (D7K full set with box) with me, however, I need to wait for his call and he will change the camera by this week. Good Job.

 

[007]

I have read 2-3 reviews about D7000 from internet but none of them talk about hot pixels... how come? :sweat:

bro, what kind of reviews? Most of the review websites do put up good words as they might get sponsor by these camera manufacturers.

I simply click on dpreview forum and it is common. :dunno:

IIRC, back to prosumer era, when nikon first launched their 5*** series, same problems happened: 1. Camera not 100% defect free before launching into market (most of the camera. That time was hot pixels also) 2. Low in supply. Consumers need to wait for the following batches to get their cameras. I do not know what kind of attitude Nikon has...after so many years, no improvement. 3. if you want to wait and see, Nikon always slow in responding to these issues and sometimes do NOT listen to their customers.

 

[kentwong81]

I think some people have put irrational high expectation on D7000, especially trying to crank up the ISO to showcase the so-called "high ISO performance". For me, I only believe high ISO performance in a full frame sensor. So far I haven't seen a single photo taken by D7000 that gives me a "wow" factor. Judging its price at $2k, I don't think it's a good buy at the moment but I think it's good time to buy D300s now.

 

[116520]

If you google "D7000 review", you will see a few reviews... yes, you're right, most of these websites put good words and a little negative words...


But honestly, D7000 is good camera.....:thumbsup:

bro, what kind of reviews? Most of the review websites do put up good words as they might get sponsor by these camera manufacturers.

I simply click on dpreview forum and it is common. :dunno:

IIRC, back to prosumer era, when nikon first launched their 5*** series, same problems happened: 1. Camera not 100% defect free before launching into market (most of the camera. That time was hot pixels also) 2. Low in supply. Consumers need to wait for the following batches to get their cameras. I do not know what kind of attitude Nikon has...after so many years, no improvement. 3. if you want to wait and see, Nikon always slow in responding to these issues and sometimes do NOT listen to their customers.

 

[Diogynes]

I own one of the hot pixel cameras. I've actually gotten two of them. Not sure about what others report, but in my case the cameras had bright dots in all video modes at all ISO settings from 100-6400. Works fine as a camera. Sucks as a video camera. I don't plan to use the video that often, but at this price everything should just work. Heck, my Panasonic ZS5 has better video.

Not sure what to do. Return or replace? If I don't return it and it turns out to be a hardware rather than firmware problem, then I am screwed.

 

[Kopiroti]

I am still struggling on how to check for hot pixel, but again I am having this conflict of whether should I find out whether or not there is hot pixel on my camera as I am really happy with the camera so far, since it is past 7 days I would be really heartache if I find out my D7000 indeed have hot pixel.

So I think it is better to stay ignorance and be happy (not denial since my camera may not have any hot pixel), still enjoying my honeymoon with my new toy

 

[tkp77]

I am still struggling on how to check for hot pixel, but again I am having this conflict of whether should I find out whether or not there is hot pixel on my camera as I am really happy with the camera so far, since it is past 7 days I would be really heartache if I find out my D7000 indeed have hot pixel.

So I think it is better to stay ignorance and be happy (not denial since my camera may not have any hot pixel), still enjoying my honeymoon with my new toy

If u don't notice it, why bother to purposely find it? Enjoy the process of taking photos with it, and not test the cam to it's said expectation.... If I tell u the seal in the camera might be faulty, will u go pour water on the camera to test?

 

[baggiolee]

If I tell u the seal in the camera might be faulty, will u go pour water on the camera to test?

lol..good one. :thumbsup:

 

[116520]

ha ha... good one!

If u don't notice it, why bother to purposely find it? Enjoy the process of taking photos with it, and not test the cam to it's said expectation.... If I tell u the seal in the camera might be faulty, will u go pour water on the camera to test?

 

[agnesfaussi]

Hi All, Was wondering if buying the camera @ SITEX or other Exhibition is worth the money ? Cos I read somewhere in the forum that certain camera shops can sell the same camera kit like a few hundred dollars cheaper (in the case of mid level model).
That few hundred dollars may translate to the freebies I suppose like the harddisk, dry cabinet, bag etc etc...
Oh btw, saw the D7000 cos abt $300 less as compared to D300s.. Is that worth the money ?

 

[Kopiroti]

If u don't notice it, why bother to purposely find it? Enjoy the process of taking photos with it, and not test the cam to it's said expectation.... If I tell u the seal in the camera might be faulty, will u go pour water on the camera to test?

You are such a comedian, very clever and funny.

Of course when checking for product defect need to exercise common sense. not purposely go find fault but if you heard from so many that it has known defective than it is good to examine and have it fix while it still under warranty.

 

[ilurbu]

Well done Freddy Choo.

Because of this, after using Nikon EM, FM2, F2Photomic, F3, F90X, D70, D200, D2X and D700, I will continue to support and move into the D7000 era.

Thank you Mr. Choo. It is the individual that makes the corporation.

 

[tkp77]

You are such a comedian, very clever and funny.

Of course when checking for product defect need to exercise common sense. not purposely go find fault but if you heard from so many that it has known defective than it is good to examine and have it fix while it still under warranty.

I'm just kidding with u, don't take it too serious. I understand ur concern, I will do the same as well.

 

[baggiolee]

year end liao and Sitex is coming but nikon still no promo for DX camera?

 

[jackychua]

Sad to say that just within few days of usage.. The hot pixel actually grow more. or I din notice previously, or it appears to be intermittently bad/hot at the particular pixels.

I just read from nikonrumors forums, someone actually said that the dealer received call from Nikon informing that the d7k production is stopped at the moment. Let's wait and see how Nikon is going to deal with this issue.