D5000, D3000 and D60...
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If budget is not a factor, I recommend you get the D5000. The D90 sensor is extremely good and that will be the deciding factor. It is also lighter and slightly smaller.
D3000 is a good choice if you want to rein in your budget a bit. At $870 for a kit, it priced very good now. The D40/40x/60/3000 are all good cameras capable of wonderful shots.
Anyway good luck with your purchase.
D3000 is a good choice if you want to rein in your budget a bit. At $870 for a kit, it priced very good now. The D40/40x/60/3000 are all good cameras capable of wonderful shots.
Anyway good luck with your purchase.
I second this. 3 AF points :angry:
thus i chose the d5000. but that was before d3000 came out, so i had a simpler choice......
KingOfNoobs
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Im D60 user.. I agree bout the 3 AF point.. Its realy difficult to use in low light condition.. Need to do some editing after taking..
but Its not that D60 is bad.. in term of price, its cheaper.. Specs..?? should learn how to control e camera 1st then go upgrade to better 1.. No need buy new 1.. 2nd hand also can, as long as its mint n warranty still valid.. While practicing with D60, save Money for ur future better camera.. Anyway who knows next year gonna come out camera better than D3k n D5k at rather cheap price..
Thats actually my plan lha.. just want to share..
cheers
but Its not that D60 is bad.. in term of price, its cheaper.. Specs..?? should learn how to control e camera 1st then go upgrade to better 1.. No need buy new 1.. 2nd hand also can, as long as its mint n warranty still valid.. While practicing with D60, save Money for ur future better camera.. Anyway who knows next year gonna come out camera better than D3k n D5k at rather cheap price..
Thats actually my plan lha.. just want to share..
cheers
vincentry
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TS, you mentioned your gf wouldn't settle for anything lesser than D90. What does she means by anything? Maybe you have to ask her to be more specific.
If it's about the sensor size then I guess the choice is obvious among the 3 you shortlisted.
Cheers
pooQy
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Im D60 user.. I agree bout the 3 AF point.. Its realy difficult to use in low light condition.. Need to do some editing after taking..
but Its not that D60 is bad.. in term of price, its cheaper.. Specs..?? should learn how to control e camera 1st then go upgrade to better 1.. No need buy new 1.. 2nd hand also can, as long as its mint n warranty still valid.. While practicing with D60, save Money for ur future better camera.. Anyway who knows next year gonna come out camera better than D3k n D5k at rather cheap price..
Thats actually my plan lha.. just want to share..
yea, was thinking that at $800++ for an entry with 11 points is a good catch. And yes, I actually did put learning to handle the camera as a considering factor as well. No point throwing in a large sum of $, end up dun use the equipment to the max potential. Like only bring out to shoot like once or twice a month?
For guys is ok, we can lug equipment ard... for ladies (in general), they would want it to be light and 'not so bulky'...
pooQy
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TS, you mentioned your gf wouldn't settle for anything lesser than D90. What does she means by anything? Maybe you have to ask her to be more specific.
If it's about the sensor size then I guess the choice is obvious among the 3 you shortlisted.
Cheers
Pic quality... i think for now, she still can't quite figure out the differences... yet. Although she prefers Nikon colours over other brands.
What I meant by that is, she's used to:
- the grip and feel of the camera
- functions of the camera (dials and knobs)
Weight-wise.. sometimes she does complain abt it being 'bulky' and on the heavier side.
vincentry
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Pardon if i digress away from Nikon, maybe can intro her to Panasonic G1 (or even wait till GF1 is out). My gf is using and loving it, got it as a second-hand for ard 750+. It's a micro four thirds but i must say the picture quality is really not bad! (of course based on my noobie eyes) Best of all it's lightweight and really handy for a gal to carry it around with them, almost like a compact (at least that's what happening to our outings now, she carries it around to almost anywhere we go but i would sometimes keep my dslr at home). No harm letting your gf try it out in shops.
Just my 2 cents worth of sharing
pooQy
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Pardon if i digress away from Nikon, maybe can intro her to Panasonic G1 (or even wait till GF1 is out). My gf is using and loving it, got it as a second-hand for ard 750+. It's a micro four thirds but i must say the picture quality is really not bad! (of course based on my noobie eyes) Best of all it's lightweight and really handy for a gal to carry it around with them, almost like a compact (at least that's what happening to our outings now, she carries it around to almost anywhere we go but i would sometimes keep my dslr at home). No harm letting your gf try it out in shops.
Just my 2 cents worth of sharing
heh.. that was what I had in mind too. Thus, I even intro-ed the Olympus E-P1 to her.
But she not interested, period. :bsmilie:
:sweat::sweat:
Pic quality wise, D3000 or G1 are also excellent. DSLR is a different class from prosumers and PnS. Capable of very good shots with low noise. But that all depends on the person behind the camera, and the person doing the PP.
It is not like you will be shortchanging you or your gf by going for a D3000 instead of a D5k or D90.
It is not like you will be shortchanging you or your gf by going for a D3000 instead of a D5k or D90.
pooQy
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agree... Should focus on the foundations first
shadowpartner
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Is it that bad? My D60 is still acceptable at ISO 1600...
I've seen people dissing D3000/D60/D40x/D40. But people fail to realize that these are excellent cameras.
How many times do you actually need to go ISO 1600? I say honestly for the last 12 months of shooting, I only needed to do that ONCE. I think digital has spoiled a lot of us. ISO used to be the speed of the film in the old days. When you put one roll in, you die die have to shoot and finish that roll before you put the next one in. I've used ISO3200 film only once in my life. And it is more "pixelated" than anything you would see nowadays, and most dslr owners will call it "unusable". And with the availability of noise reduction nowadays in post processing, Noise has become less of an issue than before.
All I can say, the technology in D3000/D60/D40x/D40 is good enough for very good and "pro" shots. The rest lies in the hands of the person behind the camera. How do you manage the light available to you, and how you give an image the x-factor to push it to another level, that is something the camera cannot do for you.
If you do not believe me, just go on flickr and do a search on D40 or D40x or D60 or D3000. Look at the pictures that show up. Entry level does not guarantee bad pictures. Also, Top of the line doesn't guarantee good pictures. Stop being gear heads and go out and shoot more.
How many times do you actually need to go ISO 1600? I say honestly for the last 12 months of shooting, I only needed to do that ONCE. I think digital has spoiled a lot of us. ISO used to be the speed of the film in the old days. When you put one roll in, you die die have to shoot and finish that roll before you put the next one in. I've used ISO3200 film only once in my life. And it is more "pixelated" than anything you would see nowadays, and most dslr owners will call it "unusable". And with the availability of noise reduction nowadays in post processing, Noise has become less of an issue than before.
All I can say, the technology in D3000/D60/D40x/D40 is good enough for very good and "pro" shots. The rest lies in the hands of the person behind the camera. How do you manage the light available to you, and how you give an image the x-factor to push it to another level, that is something the camera cannot do for you.
If you do not believe me, just go on flickr and do a search on D40 or D40x or D60 or D3000. Look at the pictures that show up. Entry level does not guarantee bad pictures. Also, Top of the line doesn't guarantee good pictures. Stop being gear heads and go out and shoot more.
Yup. All can mount and meter in P S A M modes. For Auto-focus, AF is only possible with those with built in focus motor. LIke Sigma HSM, Tamron BIM (built-in-motor). Manual focus works fine, and the electronic focus indicator will work also.
pooQy
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that's why the lens are more exp also :sweat:
Some old AFD lenses are a lot more expensive than AFS lenses. It is all relative. Thing is, how many lenses do you really need? A lot of us are infected with BBB virus. But seriously speaking, only 3 lens are usually all that we need.
And there is one advantage with D3000/D60/D40x/D40 is that they are very light. I went on a trip on Huangshan and carrying my old D40x, I was so glad it was so light.
That is one of the reasons I never ever got a battery grip. Why make things heavier for yourself? In the old film days a grip will give you the option to use cheaper batteries, at the same time boost up FPS. Or the grip has a motordrive in it. Nowadays, if I am to use a 2nd Li-on battery, I will just carry the extra battery in my bag and swtitch the batteries out when juice is low in the first one. I do not see a point to have 2 batteries in a grip. It is just additional weight. Sorry for the slight OT.
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my 2 cents: read from a lot of websites and found out that D3000 is a updated form of D60 with improvements, while D5000 is a D90 with lots of features removed ( small and dimmer viewfinder, no info on top, no wireless commander, no depth of field preview.) but overall image quality is a TINNY bit better, according to tests poeple conducted. D5000 image totally blow D3000/D60 away in terms of color and noise. but then again, D5000 is onli about 200 plus cheaper den d90 so its all very hard to choose.
Apparently, you forgot about the lens.
if you are talking about lens, there are popular reviewers who feel that the 18-55 is actually sharper and better valued than the 18-105, though of course the latter is more versatile and looks more professional too. i bought my d5000 kit for $1166; cathay photo offered 1580 for d90 kit. perhaps $200 is a exaggeration from me, my apologies. =)
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