Canon Rebel Xsi Club - 450D Only

[face2fake]

hee got anyone want to drive me there..

 

[hammie]

side track abit again...

basically I noe nuts abt photoshop lor, so thinkin of getting CS3.:dunno:

However, a goon like me would nn a guide book,

so wanna noe which book u think is better for totally dun noe photoshop goon like me?:embrass:

The Photoshop® CS3 Book for Digital Photographers by Scott Kelby

or

Adobe Photoshop CS3 for Photographers' by Martin Evening

Just go library borrow.... and you can read both

 

[hammie]

Another reason why I hate 430Ex series. Very slow to compensate on the fly with the control

 

[JPLim]

http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/ <-- start with this

http://planetneil.com/tangents/ den this after u graduated the top one.

After that, you are on your own to grasp and experience

Thanks for sharing the website information.
I will try to finish them tonight.

 

[JPLim]

Another reason why I hate 430Ex series. Very slow to compensate on the fly with the control

Do you mean the flash recycling time?
I think that it is very fast and quiet.
Maybe I have not yet tried the 580EX II series, so I cannot compare them.

 

[hammie]

Do you mean the flash recycling time?
I think that it is very fast and quiet.
Maybe I have not yet tried the 580EX II series, so I cannot compare them.

Not the recycling time but the Flash Exp Compensate control. 580 is press and turn. 430 is press press press press press press..............

 

[jlkk76]

anyway anyone wanna go out dis sunday bor??

wanna go see see singapore biennale leh...

 

[JPLim]

Not the recycling time but the Flash Exp Compensate control. 580 is press and turn. 430 is press press press press press press..............

One question for that.
Will my shutter speed become faster if I increase the flash exp compensation?
I am using Av mode now.

 

[JPLim]

anyway anyone wanna go out dis sunday bor??

wanna go see see singapore biennale leh...

Bro, too bad.
I need to be the photograher for my cousin on this weekend.
So, I cannot go out this Sunday

 

[hammie]

One question for that.
Will my shutter speed become faster if I increase the flash exp compensation?
I am using Av mode now.

Nope... Exposure on flash and exposure on camera for CANON is independent. Its up to the shooter to balance them up. U increase the FEC, u only increase the power of the flash.

 

[JPLim]

Nope... Exposure on flash and exposure on camera for CANON is independent. Its up to the shooter to balance them up. U increase the FEC, u only increase the power of the flash

Thanks for your information.
I think I will need to play around with the flash tomorrow night.
Hopefully, I can handle better with this flash by Saturday morning.

 

[JPLim]

hee got anyone want to drive me there..

Do you refer to the outing @ JB?
Please inform to paperseal if you are interested at that.

 

[hammie]

Thanks for your information.
I think I will need to play around with the flash tomorrow night.
Hopefully, I can handle better with this flash by Saturday morning.

If not what I think, your concept of flash freezing subject due to higher shutter speed is wrong. More light = faster shutter speed. It dun goes this way. Its true that you can get by with higher shutter speed but the result will be different from wat you want which result in flashed subject and black background

 

[JPLim]

If not what I think, your concept of flash freezing subject due to higher shutter speed is wrong. More light = faster shutter speed. It dun goes this way. Its true that you can get by with higher shutter speed but the result will be different from wat you want which result in flashed subject and black background

What mode do you normally use for your flash shoot?
I do know that the higher shutter speed will result in flashed subject and black background.
But I wish to reduce the motion blur which I will most likely encounter during the event shooting. From experience, 1/30s is the lowest shutter speed that will prevent normal motion blur for indoor group photo.

I try to use the M mode just now with 1/30s and F5.6 with flash attached.
However, my exposure will blink and indicate that it is -2EV.
Btw, I set to ISO 800 for that.
So I wonder whether there is any setting that can have correct exposure while the shutter speed and aperture can be similar like the setting above.

 

[hammie]

What mode do you normally use for your flash shoot?
I do know that the higher shutter speed will result in flashed subject and black background.
But I wish to reduce the motion blur which I will most likely encounter during the event shooting. From experience, 1/30s is the lowest shutter speed that will prevent normal motion blur for indoor group photo.

I try to use the M mode just now with 1/30s and F5.6 with flash attached.
However, my exposure will blink and indicate that it is -2EV.
Btw, I set to ISO 800 for that.
So I wonder whether there is any setting that can have correct exposure while the shutter speed and aperture can be similar like the setting above.

It depends on you using it for main or fill. I mostly on AV mode f4 (-2/3 EC depend on situation )and high ISO for fill (-2/3 to -2)to achieve those "natural lighting" for indoor and TV for outdoor. If bokeh is a priority, my high speed sync is on. Unless AV shutter speed is unable to cope. I will switch to manual and chimp the FEC accordingly. Bounced flash is another issue though with AV or manual each with different setting :3. Once you get the concept, flash setting will come to you naturally.

Just note: Aperture and ISO control the flash exposure. Shutter speed control the ambient light. One thing for sure, my FEC is the one getting adjusted the most.

 

[JPLim]

It depends on you using it for main or fill. I mostly on AV mode f4 and high ISO for fill (-2/3 to -2)to achieve those "natural lighting" for indoor and TV for outdoor. If bokeh is a priority, my high speed sync is on. Unless AV shutter speed is unable to cope. I will switch to manual and chimp the FEC accordingly. Bounced flash is another issue though with AV or manual each with different setting :3. Once you get the concept, flash setting will come to you naturally.

Just note: Aperture and ISO control the flash exposure. Shutter speed control the ambient light. One thing for sure, my FEC is the one getting adjusted the most.

Thanks for sharing experience.
I will try to play around with FEC and all settings at tomorrow night.

 

[eleveninth]

Just go library borrow.... and you can read both

I got quite a handful of books and videos, recently aquired the one light dvd also. not bad

 

[jlkk76]

I got quite a handful of books and videos, recently aquired the one light dvd also. not bad

got simi books? care to share ur range for goon like me?

 

[eleveninth]

got simi books? care to share ur range for goon like me?

I'm now at office, when i get back I'll PM you the list.

 

[gman23xx]

Haha...well anyone going to tomorrow's photo marathon? Reporting time is at 7.30am....i'm seriously thinking about it:dunno:...so tiring and school's starting on Monday....darn:bheart:....haha...


Anyway, camera equipment prices have went up a little. Went around looking at stuff today. Managed to get my Battery Grip + Original Battery...at a good price. CP/marina quote $229 for the battery grip...i was like....:bigeyes:...of course i didn't get it there...haha...:nono:


Anyway, happy that I've a new arsenal in my list...2 more to go.


gman