Canon 5D mk3 in Spring

[Halfmoon]

What I worry about is that the price may be pushed higher after one month as many ppl preorder or buy it. Should I wait or just buy? Arghzzz

Maybe just wait a while and see..... and get it a few months later, and price should come down a bit.... and see more reviews from users......:think::think:

 

[KangS]

If you'RE already with a camera, why not just wait a few months for prices to stablise ? It won't drop dramatically but at least there may be offers that are attractive like freebies that come around every few months. ??

 

[niccon2]

What I worry about is that the price may be pushed higher after one month as many ppl preorder or buy it. Should I wait or just buy? Arghzzz

no worry, with this price range and uncertain economics, i think price may drop then climb when the initial sales is not what they expected. i also believe, 5Dmk3 is what most photographer want but may be only 50% will purchase it due to its pricing. also canon should have allocated enough production line to meet high demand. may be they already accumulated many stock to release on month end that meets initial demand.

 

[LittleSid]

Thanks for your opinions, I think I wait for one or two months(the most) then buy it.

: )

 

[raydio]

Heh, it is a bit OT, but here you go. Shot using the 7D with EF-S 10-22. It's a building in Moscow called the Historical Museum. It's located on one end of the Red Square, opposite St Basil's Cathedral.

That is one lovely photo! I really like the colours and the sky! I especially like the cloud formation as they circle the top of the building. Nice shot esoeij!

Back to the 5D3...

 

[house3377]

Test charts aside, have u guys seen the sample images from canon's website? Frankly if I were to use these real world pictures as reference, the ISO and noise performance of the 5D3 at 3200 and 6400 isn't something which the current 5D2 & 1D4 couldn't do. And in terms of details wise, the level of details isn't as Impressive as canon made it out to be i.e. it's not a far cry from the level which the 5D2 and 1D4 could resolve.

To add salt to the wound, canon still refuses to give uncompressed video thru the 5D3!!! This is something which Nikon did right! And oh, Did I mention that the compressed video quality of 5D2 and 1D4 sucks? Oh yea, you can quote all the famous big names and all the big movies which are created by them, but heck the quality to me just cannot make it...

agree with you to a large extend. i had 2 5dm2, sold one a few months back in anticipation to get the m3 as main. not saying that the m3 is not a good camera but let's be objective. look at how m2 made a leap from the 5d classic:

1. added superior video function.
2. big leap in mega pixel AND of course more importantly picture quality. to me it's still the best quality picture any DSLR can produce right now in the market
3. of course a lot of other minor improvements.

no. 1 & 2 were not available in any other cameras. more importantly the image quality is a big leap. so to me, this is real ground breaking improvement.

now from the m2 to m3:

1. improve focus
2. improve high ISO
3. dual card
4. Image Processor better
5. improve Continuous Shooting Speed
6. improve weather sealing

yes the above an improvement from m2 to m3 but seriously i don't see anything that is ground breaking. all of the above (apart from picture quality which is not proven in the real world yet) can be found in other cameras.

to top this, retail price at US$3500??. the picture quality and ISO performance will have to be extremely good to convince me to upgrade with that kind of price tag...

 

[koppite]

agree with you to a large extend. i had 2 5dm2, sold one a few months back in anticipation to get the m3 as main. not saying that the m3 is not a good camera but let's be objective. look at how m2 made a leap from the 5d classic:

1. added superior video function.
2. big leap in mega pixel AND of course more importantly picture quality. to me it's still the best quality picture any DSLR can produce right now in the market
3. of course a lot of other minor improvements.

no. 1 & 2 were not available in any other cameras. more importantly the image quality is a big leap. so to me, this is real ground breaking improvement.

now from the m2 to m3:

1. improve focus
2. improve high ISO
3. dual card
4. Image Processor better
5. improve Continuous Shooting Speed
6. improve weather sealing

yes the above an improvement from m2 to m3 but seriously i don't see anything that is ground breaking. all of the above (apart from picture quality which is not proven in the real world yet) can be found in other cameras.

to top this, retail price at US$3500??. the picture quality and ISO performance will have to be extremely good to convince me to upgrade with that kind of price tag...

So you sold your 5DII already, so now what's your intention?

 

[house3377]

So you sold your 5DII already, so now what's your intention?

now i am left with just 1 m2. will wait for the release of m3 and check out the actual picture quality. i am sure there will be improvement from m2 (it better be!). but if it's not that big, i will get back a m2. will eventually upgrade to a m3 but not at USD$3500...

 

[zozzcyx]

now i am left with just 1 m2. will wait for the release of m3 and check out the actual picture quality. i am sure there will be improvement from m2 (it better be!). but if it's not that big, i will get back a m2. will eventually upgrade to a m3 but not at USD$3500...

Having used to own 2 5DM2 yourself, most likely you are a professional photographer? I find that the AF system on my 5D a little problematic, and at times, I will prefer to use a 7D during event shoots rather than the 5D even though both may be set to center focus.

Having the same AF system as the new 1DX, I think that it can fully satisfy my requirements! Only problem is the price though, probably gotta hand around and wait for more reviews and user impressions.

 

[house3377]

Having used to own 2 5DM2 yourself, most likely you are a professional photographer? I find that the AF system on my 5D a little problematic, and at times, I will prefer to use a 7D during event shoots rather than the 5D even though both may be set to center focus.

Having the same AF system as the new 1DX, I think that it can fully satisfy my requirements! Only problem is the price though, probably gotta hand around and wait for more reviews and user impressions.

i do only commercial work, so the auto focus is seldom a need for me since i do it through LV. but i have to agree with you that the m2 auto focusing system really isn't desire-able. so unless the image quality improves by leaps, i would rather continue with the m2 for the moment. i can and will part with US$3500 if the image is really good.

it's more justifiable for you to upgrade since you are into events coz the fps and af improvement will help you loads.

 

[zozzcyx]

i do only commercial work, so the auto focus is seldom a need for me since i do it through LV. but i have to agree with you that the m2 auto focusing system really isn't desire-able. so unless the image quality improves by leaps, i would rather continue with the m2 for the moment. i can and will part with US$3500 if the image is really good.

it's more justifiable for you to upgrade since you are into events coz the fps and af improvement will help you loads.

Well I check out the first impressions of the new 5DM3 from Digitalrev on youtube and seems like the first improvement is the noise control of the new body, looks really substantial!

 

[house3377]

Well I check out the first impressions of the new 5DM3 from Digitalrev on youtube and seems like the first improvement is the noise control of the new body, looks really substantial!

yap i saw that as well. and it does look impressive but will need to see an actual A/B of images.

 

[KangS]

I guess a lot of people are forgetting the context of the price changes in terms of relative currency values.

If you're a US citizen or European then perhaps you've got good reason to gripe but if you're Singaporean, the price increase really isn't THAT much.

Back when the 5DMkII was launched, local MSRP was ~SG$4200 ( think it was SG$4199), if you use the current US$3500 MRSP, that translates to approx SG$4500/-. Approximately SG$300/- difference for quite a bit more added features !
As for the Nikon D800 prices at US$2899/-, well its probably got a lot to do with its manufacturing based outside of Japan, and mainly in Thailand. Whose currency has moved somewhat in tandem with the US$ over the years, whereas the SG$ has moved somewhat closer with the JP Yen.

Besides, both their local SG pricing hasn't been announced, so we can't really say for sure what it will be yet.

 

[eleveninth]

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[Kenneth67C]

Bro can you advise why you say that? :think:

Comparison of canon-5d-mark-iii-vs-5d-mark-ii

Comparing the 2 models specs wise:

Model Mk3 Mk2 Diff
mp 22.3 21.1 +5.7% big deal...
VF 100% 98% +2% big deal...
fps 6 3.9 +53.8% Ok this is positive, but not enough for quick action/sports
ISO 25.6k 6.4k +2 stops Good!
AF 61/41 9/1 Major plus!!!
LCD 1.04m 920k +13% Ok good
HDR Y N Good
Seals Y N Good
Wt 860g 810g Ok
Price 3.5k 2.2k WTH!!!

As a user of the 5D2, I mainly use it for landscapes, portraits, events, etc...
The additional focus points is good, but its no deal breaker, I can still live with the 5D2.
The higher ISO performance is quite something if the samples are anything to go by.
Higher fps is good, but I still can't do sports without missing a couple of shots.
HDR is good to have, but I can still do it in PP.
Weather sealing: my experience with the 5D2 is its good even in rain/snow, so no big deal.

So if you ask me, the KEY advantage of the 5D3 is its high ISO/low noise performance. This feature is mainly useful IF you shoot indoors or in really low light situations in pubs/night performances and such. If you shoot sunrise/sunset with a tripod, again this feature is no deal maker, especially if you consider the price.
That's why to me, I'm more interested in the 1Dx which hopefully Canon will release at more realistic/competitive prices against the competition. If the 1Dx pricing doesn't come down, then I may reconsider the 5D3 when the price is more reasonable, but at the current asking price for a 5D2 user, its not blowing up my skirt.
So if Canon is seeing this, wake up!!!

 

[esoeij]

Perhaps if the comparison were made with a 1Dm3S instead, we might have a different perspective of how 'expensive' the 5Dm3 is. Considering that (at least on paper) the 5Dm3 trumps the pro-body 1Dm3S in so many areas, and yet can be had at a fraction of the latter's price, it would seem to be a pretty good bargain! I mean, Canon could have welded the optional BG grip to the 5Dm3 n sold it as an upgrade to the 1Dm3S!

 

[Kenneth67C]

1D3s??? For tech products???
Please...that is history.

 

[esoeij]

1D3s??? For tech products???
Please...that is history.

Well, you could say the same for the 5Dm2. Both were launched ard the same era.

 

[KangS]

Perhaps if the comparison were made with a 1Dm3S instead, we might have a different perspective of how 'expensive' the 5Dm3 is. Considering that (at least on paper) the 5Dm3 trumps the pro-body 1Dm3S in so many areas, and yet can be had at a fraction of the latter's price, it would seem to be a pretty good bargain! I mean, Canon could have welded the optional BG grip to the 5Dm3 n sold it as an upgrade to the 1Dm3S!

I agree! If its an apples to apples comparison ... its a whole lot closer compared to the 5DmkII.

Think Canon should have added the 'eye-focus control' and called this the '3D' instead and the whole cost/price thing would be completely moot ...

 

[Kenneth67C]

I did consider the 1D3s, but when I learned of the 230k LCD screen, that idea immediately vaporized.
So nah, won't even look at the older 1Ds now.