Arrival of d90 break my heart :( feel like changing my d300 for it...

[AbangR]

Now that u say it, i wonder if the movie function on the D90 will cannibalise the D300 sales, because most likely users would be keen on having that function. :dunno:

Perhaps Nikon should launch a mid-update to the D300 to add the movie function? Call it D300X? This would be kind of interesting because the upcoming 5D II is reputated to have Movie Function too and if indeed, i think the D90 would lose it Movie attraction partly because of the better functionalities of the FF 5D II?

doubt d90 consumer will be looking at 5d. Price diff too big

 

[lsisaxon]

Its because of this dinosaur mindset of these pros back then that the video function is not included, until now then the majority realise the need for the video, thats where the d90 comes in. (even those that made the sarcastic remarks earlier are wowing at the video function now)

That was then.. Memory wasn't as cheap as they are now. Even video recorders are going solid state now.

I see 3 preconditions that is required, 1) low power CMOS sensor, 2) high capacity solid state memory, 3) faster processors.

 

[ianwurn]

why would D90 drive down D300's price?... if D300's price go down, wouldn't it cut into the D90's market?... and the D300 is higher speced in stills department than D90 so the price diff should not be affected what...

Well, D90 drives down the price cos it offers a choice to the market. Some folks who would have considered buying the D300 might find that the few hundred bucks difference can be saved and get a free movie mode thrown in, so will go for the D90. D90 does compete with the D300 in a small overlap. Boils down to demand and supply in economics : If demand of the D300 goes down, the price will soften somewhat, assuming Nikon still want to make the D300 volume that is..... Of cos, Nikon could still hold the price to the shops and see what happens...... so it's for the shop to decide ultimately..... Or perhaps Canon will sell more ? ha.....

Right now I am hearing S$1500 for D90 body only (Estimated) and D300 is at $2000 odd. Approx S$500 bucks difference. I already saw D80 body only grey market price in Taiwan to be S$860 (Not sure how much here).....

All I can say is that I'm going to LOOOON big time..... haha..... until I REALLY need a new body !

 

[blackdrakes]

I beg to differ.. I'm buying the D90 to replace my hardly used and dated Panasonic 3CCD DV video camera.

So are you going to try to sell the old videocam to fund for D90?

 

[lsisaxon]

So are you going to try to sell the old videocam to fund for D90?

I don't think anyone will want to buy it although the head hours are quite short.. It's a consumer 3CCD, not a professional one.

 

[theRBK]

Well, D90 drives down the price cos it offers a choice to the market. Some folks who would have considered buying the D300 might find that the few hundred bucks difference can be saved and get a free movie mode thrown in, so will go for the D90. D90 does compete with the D300 in a small overlap. Boils down to demand and supply in economics : If demand of the D300 goes down, the price will soften somewhat, assuming Nikon still want to make the D300 volume that is..... Of cos, Nikon could still hold the price to the shops and see what happens...... so it's for the shop to decide ultimately..... Or perhaps Canon will sell more ? ha.....

quite unlikely Nikon would reduce the price significantly of D300 other than routine lifespan price reduction ... cause the selling point of it would still be superior autofocus, superior metering, better build quality, faster continuous shooting etc., and as well, Nikon would probably like to keep the price segmentation to maximize profit... they might rather reduce production/sales of the camera and push the D700 harder... cause once they reduce the price point for that particular segment (D300's segment) of camera now, it would be harder to push it higher in the future, and it might also apply downward pressure on D700 price... its like in the situation when the D100 was around for some time and then the D70 popped in... the D70 was great value but Nikon could not/did not want to reduce the price of the D100... they rather let it languish till the D200 came in... anything is possible I guess, but other than routine price reduction, I don't think D300 would reduce price significantly because of D90... of course, if I'm wrong, better for all us consumers

 

[ianwurn]

quite unlikely Nikon would reduce the price significantly of D300 other than routine lifespan price reduction ... cause the selling point of it would still be superior autofocus, superior metering, better build quality, faster continuous shooting etc., and as well, Nikon would probably like to keep the price segmentation to maximize profit... they might rather reduce production/sales of the camera and push the D700 harder... cause once they reduce the price point for that particular segment (D300's segment) of camera now, it would be harder to push it higher in the future, and it might also apply downward pressure on D700 price... its like in the situation when the D100 was around for some time and then the D70 popped in... the D70 was great value but Nikon could not/did not want to reduce the price of the D100... they rather let it languish till the D200 came in... anything is possible I guess, but other than routine price reduction, I don't think D300 would reduce price significantly because of D90... of course, if I'm wrong, better for all us consumers

I am probably secretly hoping you are wrong. hahaha..... But then again, which of us not wishing for a price drop ? Heh heh heh....

Anyways, I am just curious about Nikon coming out with so many products at a go. This will cause overall market fatigue if the pace is kept and may lead to lesser interest...... then all our older stuff really command zero 2nd hand value when we try to sell off to fund other stuff..... just like the Bates 3000 / 4000 / 5000 / 6000 /.... / 9000 video.....

I am sure Canon will respond soon. And then the cycle goes on. Mebbe I will wait for D500 to be launched. Perhaps full frame D500 pro camera with video function 10 fps at $1800 ?
hahahaha.... Yeah, I WISH !

 

[ilyas]

but it's interesting because the D90 has the same sensor as the D300, meaning even the same or similar high iso performance as the d300. And also plus expeed and scene recognition system and 3d focus tracking etc etc. Just curious what would be the biggest loss for getting the d90 instead of the d300?

 

[ilyas]

okay wait im not sure if they have the same sensor -_-

but either way, they claim similar high iso performances.

 

[ahguan]

If i see D3 or its new iteration D3? having video recording, then maybe i will consider video becoming the norm in serious DSLRs. Otherwise moot point and right now just a fad to get market share and give a reason for upgrade

 

[big_dailou]

The only reason for me to be excited about D90 is the possible drop in D80's price after D90 is in-store. Sure the video capturing feature sounds a lot sexier, but it will take up all storage after shooting few minutes of videos, after that no space for photos, what good does that bring :dunno: ? If anyone can find good lobang for D80 let me know ya, i'm still waiting very patiently... :sweat:

 

[CT 3833]

but it's interesting because the D90 has the same sensor as the D300, meaning even the same or similar high iso performance as the d300. And also plus expeed and scene recognition system and 3d focus tracking etc etc. Just curious what would be the biggest loss for getting the d90 instead of the d300?

okay wait im not sure if they have the same sensor -_-

but either way, they claim similar high iso performances.

Judging from Nikon D90 microsite....it seems to be be a different CMOS from the one used for D300...
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/hi-quality-image/

>>>>>The D90 incorporates a newly developed DX-format CMOS image sensor with technology directly inherited from the D300<<<<<

 

[tunster]

IF you can live with that 720p (only) so called HD and mono sound recording. Just get another body.

 

[binbeto]

Don't be rush, wait for the D90 to come into the market before making a rash decision. For all you know, the video functions might not be as good as you thought it to be.
D300 has some advantage over D90. For me, the most noticeable are the focus point (51 vs 11), focus speed (d90 is using same as d80), the AF fine tuning and MF lens metering.

Not to forget, your CF card need to be replaced.

 

[AbangR]

Judging from Nikon D90 microsite....it seems to be be a different CMOS from the one used for D300...
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/hi-quality-image/

>>>>>The D90 incorporates a newly developed DX-format CMOS image sensor with technology directly inherited from the D300<<<<<

The way I read it, this sensor is exactly the D300's sensor which was newly developed.

 

[lsisaxon]

Judging from Nikon D90 microsite....it seems to be be a different CMOS from the one used for D300...
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/hi-quality-image/

>>>>>The D90 incorporates a newly developed DX-format CMOS image sensor with technology directly inherited from the D300<<<<<

I'd expect that because it needs to be able to stream out 720p videos at 24fps.

 

[lsisaxon]

but it's interesting because the D90 has the same sensor as the D300, meaning even the same or similar high iso performance as the d300. And also plus expeed and scene recognition system and 3d focus tracking etc etc. Just curious what would be the biggest loss for getting the d90 instead of the d300?

51pt AF.

 

[thedaniel]

if nikon want to have movie mode inside D3, D700 and D300, they can simply do an firmware update. Since the hardware of the 3 cameras should be better than D90. But they will normally not do that because they will only add it on the next version of the cameas so they can sell more cameras.

 

[lsisaxon]

if nikon want to have movie mode inside D3, D700 and D300, they can simply do an firmware update. Since the hardware of the 3 cameras should be better than D90. But they will normally not do that because they will only add it on the next version of the cameas so they can sell more cameras.

If it can be done, they would do it.. eg, D3 now has some of D700's features included in the new firmware.

 

[thedaniel]

But the new firmware for D3 is only small minor feature addition. Adding movie mode will become big feature improvement. I think the lack of mic could be the main reason.