A Confession

[rncw]

Cos i missed u and i have too much free time not to hang around here . It's a cold world out there. I feel warm here.

:sweat: :dunno:

then whats the purpose of this thread?

 

[swimcraze]

Cos i missed u and i have too much free time not to hang around here . It's a cold world out there. I feel warm here.

HA HA HA HA


u made me laugh until boh gay liao!!!!

 

[Cash]

:sweat: :dunno:

then whats the purpose of this thread?

aiyah, let those who hated me for so long whack me a bit la. Else not fair right?

 

[rncw]

aiyah, let those who hated me for so long whack me a bit la. Else not fair right?

if i were to get back at "Cash", then i'm no different from "Cash"...rite?

funny why you would think others hated you.... :bsmilie:

 

[Royce]

And the attention seeking continues... :nono:

 

[Stylus C34]

So true, what's the purpuse of this thread then? So that you have something to monitor and pass some time?



Hrm, reminds me of some joker who once made a big hooha, telling the whole world that he wanted to quit cos his papa won't let him use the camera, but end up still around.


Face it, you are just another attention seeker.

 

[Cash]

if i were to get back at "Cash", then i'm no different from "Cash"...rite?

funny why you would think others hated you.... :bsmilie:

not funny, just look at this thread...i was like dragged through mud naked and then dumped on the junkyard.

but hey, i deserved it...so it's ok.

 

[Cash]

So true, what's the purpuse of this thread then? So that you have something to monitor and pass some time?



Hrm, reminds me of some clowns who once made a big hooha, telling the whole world that he wanted to quit cos his papa won't let him use the camera, but end up still around.


Face it, you just want some attention.

and you clicked on this thread because, you what? bored too?

 

[Cash]

And the attention seeking continues... :nono:

most definitely.

 

[Clown]

So true, what's the purpuse of this thread then? So that you have something to monitor and pass some time?



Hrm, reminds me of some clowns who once made a big hooha, telling the whole world that he wanted to quit cos his papa won't let him use the camera, but end up still around.


Face it, you are just another attention seeker.

wah liew.. leave us clowns outta this... >_<

 

[Stylus C34]

wah liew.. leave us clowns outta this... >_<

Heh, apologies. Post edited.

 

[Red Dawn]

that guy, Polarbear(wahahahahahhahahahahaa!) :bsmilie: , is not worth mentioning, or discussing or... whatever!

Polarbear, cash, wat's the difference? they are of one and the same spirit.

if u think polarbear is not worth discussing, then cash isn't either, and should leave CS asap without us taking the trouble to ban him.

 

[Cash]

coming clean is a good thing. it's a virtue.

but up till this post, i was having a big headache in thinking, WHY on earth would anyone carry on lambasting people's photographs when they're ordinary, and only saying "you'll go far" as a very bland compliment, without highlighting the positives in the photos? with a melting pot of backgrounds and existence of each and every of us, working, studying - did you bother about feelings? your very actions remind me too of what StreetShooter mentioned about the war atrocities that were committed - the fundamental problem is that people were treated as experiment specimen. i didn't grow up during the WWII, but i've read enough to know how horrible it was. in the work that i do, love is a definite must, and that's perhaps why i was touchy regarding your skewed self-defense attempts. please "touch your conscience" and ask yourself, WHY you want to do this experiment for - you were experimenting on a real online, live community of people, not SimCity as one other CSer mentioned. why didn't you try what you wanted on your family? even if you did, remember, your subjects of experimentation are real animate beings, not some electron simulation in a computer. what you don't want to have, don't try it on others. didn't you learn that in school?

to paraphrase shakespeare, "to stay or leave, that is the question". you have a functional brain, use it for yourself. if your true persona is exactly like what you have been, enjoying carrying out experiments on others, please, try it on yourself. drive yourself crazy if you want to.

Love is a way to live life, hope God touches your heart one day and make you see beyond repentence.

You will notice a lot of people give compliments too without following up and they got away. Is it just me or you think theirs was ok?

 

[Cash]

The idea was there. Execution: Totally wrong. This isn't Sim City you know. I appreciate your honesty, and have noticed that you ARE indeed providing constructive comments on people's work.

Did it every occur to you that some of these people could very well be new to photography? Did it every occur to you that while you felt the need to come in here to gauge the quality of this community, someone could have been in here for some help on some particular issue.

I've kept quiet so far, since what you do or say here is your own prerogative. However, instead of helping yourself, you have just nearly killed your own existence on this forum.

Yes. Some people like to have sunshine blown up their butts, while others can take criticism constructively.

I see this community as one that is rich with experience both in photography, and in life. I still remember Sensires' post about his experience at Chingay, and your prompt replies. Did lending a listening ear make him feel better? Yes it did, and i'm glad we were there for him. That is the whole idea of this forum. To be there for people, in good times and in bad ones.

I can understand if you want to emphasize the fact that life is not a bed of roses...really, but i think the last thing that people need here, is to be reminded of that fact. See a picture that doesn't work for you? Explain why. Simple as that. Then again, as with every online community, we must remind ourselves that nobody's the same here. We're from different backgrounds, countries, races and religions. The beauty of it all though, is that we look through the same lenses everyday: our eyes.

So. I've spoken enough, and maybe even too much. I don't think it's fair for you to impose a vote on whether you should stay or go. I'll repeat what Royce has said earlier. Stay if you feel you can contribute positively to this community. Leave if your desire is only to walk around with what i thought was a chip on your shoulder. I believe you have a wealth of knowledge and experience that will benefit all that cross paths with you, however, where you focus that energy of yours is another great mystery. I am a firm believer of potential, and sincerely hope that you will prove the critics wrong.

I saw a lot of comments saying they like the picture too but with no explanations and they got away. Explain why.

 

[Red Dawn]

Hi

btw contrary to wat Streetshooter have said, i quite like Polarbear in offstone - at least until last week. Maybe cos i never really had any brush with him. I think i can still get myself to like the PolarBear of offstone again eventually, but not Cash of CS though.

I don't like characters who perform experiments on innocent civilian populations for some nefarious study to help out *other* _new_ forums. That is underhanded and contrary to wat Cash said when he claimed he's doing a personal experiment.

If the old Polarbear of Offstone comes to CS as he is, he'll be welcomed for sure.

 

[Cash]

I don't think personal experiments at the detriment of others are a good way to become part of an online community. While some of your critiques were reasonable, others were unneccessarily harsh and not constructive by any means. I'm also not interested in attention seekers, and while perhaps this was not your intention, you have been doing this through all the controversy you've created and now this very thread.

So I will say this, stay if you will stop all the crap and just stick to photography (and perhaps learn to be tactful in future). Otherwise continue your journey someplace else.

So which is it to be? :think:

I stuck to photography this whole week despite sujectively harsh comments, but my son was named and so was my family. I can understand u need 2 habds to clap and possibly a bait to chew on but ever consider it's also important how one respond to anynomity?

Surely if you check back my posts, I went in for the pictures as if I had no other views in sight but pictures lying on the table for me to critique . I should have thought abit the feelings of the posters but then I might not have given them the real picture (pun ) . I can go round one big circle trying to be nice but don't u think sometimes, direct feedback is also a possible way of accpetance?

Perhaps not, but that's not my desire and I have no way in guaging posters' response to my comments.


PS: Im still on this thread not becos I wanna seek attention, but becos i tink it is important we discuss why different forms of critiques are necessary. I know the basic interpersonal courtesy we should extend in reality. But pictures to be has to be seen on an isolated table with maximum focus on whether it works or not, when posted.


i think.

 

[HelmetBox]

And the attention seeking continues... :nono:

wakakaka! :sweatsm:

Hey, I'm not too late! :bsmilie:

I say: Why bother what people think? It was what you chose in the beginning.

So as many have already mentioned, stay or leave its all your decision.

 

[zaren]

aiyah, let those who hated me for so long whack me a bit la. Else not fair right?

hmmm....this offer cannot refuse manz!!!! *hiakz*

:hammer:

:bsmilie:

 

[Cash]

Hi

btw contrary to wat Streetshooter have said, i quite like Polarbear in offstone - at least until last week. Maybe cos i never really had any brush with him. I think i can still get myself to like the PolarBear of offstone again eventually, but not Cash of CS though.

I don't like characters who perform experiments on innocent civilian populations for some nefarious study to help out *other* _new_ forums. That is underhanded and contrary to wat Cash said when he claimed he's doing a personal experiment.

If the old Polarbear of Offstone comes to CS as he is, he'll be welcomed for sure.

heck, so im who im. Im Pb. ANd no, this wasn't about another forum. I told AVATAR it was but it isn't. He asjed me why im doing this and i had to tell him something then. And today, i felt the whole thing is off tangent and so this thread. U can check with the new forum people who are starting it if they know about my presence here and see if they know what all this is about.


I said it in my first post. It's about wanting to know how far people will react when faced with harsh criticism whne their art is being posted. U can check back all my posts and mostly all started with pictures. I went OT fending for myself, ok i deserved it but this has got nothing to do with any new forums. I feel the importance of critiques that is why i did what i did, with modification to my comments...an experiment u say.

check with Bobmann.(sorry pal)...if he knows anything about this. he is starting a new forum i think. I heard.


thought i need to clear this. And sorry AVATAR

 

[zaren]

cash aka polarbear....

ok...have asked b4 (when the "war" was raging)...and now will ask again.....

care to share some of those B&W street n abstract shots of urs, in the spirit of sharing that is ClubSNap?