Yang.

[Discreet]

does anyone find this image bad?and does anyone see the similarities?

I find this interesting a little more interesting.. but one similiarity i see is that both photos have some technical flaws (IMHO) that i feel distracts the viewers esp other photogs. Correct me if I am wrong but your picture is not in focus,... or rather it is front focusing on the chest area of the model. On one hand it makes the model's face blurry which give its a nice effect, on the other hand, I cannot help but wonder if this is a delibrate effort or simply user error. Personally, I will shoot the photo focused on the face and de-focus the whole picture in post production if that is the effect wanted. Now with the chest area in focus, I am again wondering why only that area is in focus... and hence is distracting me. Nevertheless, the subject is pretty interesting

Back to the OP's photos, I am distracted by the over-processing and the fact that the photos is not very well taken. He mentioned that he did make-up on the model, so this is not a "snap=shot" per say and hence a certain level of sharpness and exposure is expected because you have the luxury of prepping the photo. Right now, personally, the expression of the face is the only interesting part (not really that interesting to me though) of the whole picture. Everything else is just a distraction. Imagine if the picture was sharper, exposure better that the amount of post-processing is not so extreme to generate all these unnecessary artifiacts.

What i see is a photo that while might have a strong message to some, is simply compromised by other distraction in the photos. For some, the message itself might be enough, but IMHO, this is a posed shot and hence my view that this seems as though to be a random photo over processed to look provocative.

 

[zemotion]

There seems to be a contrast of a two fold here, an older soul in her by her pose and the innocence of a child. This irony works for me personally. Nice stuff.

you read best. thanks.

 

[zemotion]

I like this pix =)

ah, i find that sometimes you 'chin up' a little bit too much actually in this particular pix.

as for my reply - it's gonna be the same wether i know you or not. Rest assure that :bsmilie:

eh, i think different people different view. well i do like this picture, got the full crop but that's not the point so i post the eye part, hahah~ thanks anyway. =)

 

[zemotion]

I like it!! :lovegrin:

On first look, it's seems wrong somehow.. following the norms, there will be a lot of wrongness in it. But the expression and the style does invoke a strong feeling!

Well, not all photos are meant to juz look nice, makes u feel good. Some makes u feel angry, so sad.. This one is good!

Hopefully some day I can do something with as much feel as this! :thumbsup:

thanks for the comment! really hope that's true and thanks for telling me

well last line.. no need to be so flattering, i think your stuffs are nice too, and you probably know alot more than me :lovegrin:

 

[zemotion]

does anyone find this image bad?and does anyone see the similarities?

actually, i don't really like hte helmet, but i think it's more interesting because there's movement. it's not still. but i like mine more, because it's more personal, and emotional. different things, similarity, they're both blurry. :bsmilie:

 

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I find this interesting a little more interesting.. but one similiarity i see is that both photos have some technical flaws (IMHO) that i feel distracts the viewers esp other photogs. Correct me if I am wrong but your picture is not in focus,... or rather it is front focusing on the chest area of the model. On one hand it makes the model's face blurry which give its a nice effect, on the other hand, I cannot help but wonder if this is a delibrate effort or simply user error. Personally, I will shoot the photo focused on the face and de-focus the whole picture in post production if that is the effect wanted. Now with the chest area in focus, I am again wondering why only that area is in focus... and hence is distracting me. Nevertheless, the subject is pretty interesting

Back to the OP's photos, I am distracted by the over-processing and the fact that the photos is not very well taken. He mentioned that he did make-up on the model, so this is not a "snap=shot" per say and hence a certain level of sharpness and exposure is expected because you have the luxury of prepping the photo. Right now, personally, the expression of the face is the only interesting part (not really that interesting to me though) of the whole picture. Everything else is just a distraction. Imagine if the picture was sharper, exposure better that the amount of post-processing is not so extreme to generate all these unnecessary artifiacts.

What i see is a photo that while might have a strong message to some, is simply compromised by other distraction in the photos. For some, the message itself might be enough, but IMHO, this is a posed shot and hence my view that this seems as though to be a random photo over processed to look provocative.

in fact, i did not have the luxury to prep the photo, by the way, i'm not a he. (i don't see which part of my avatar or my previous post of self portrait shows me as a he, really, where did you read that from again?)

anyway, back to the picture, no. i did the make-up for her, for a dance. and i didn't even have enough time to finish it up before my mother had to grab her out of the door. which was kind of unplanned because they had read the time wrongly, i'd wanted more time to take nicer shots to keep before she left.
so i took the shots in the corridor at my place in a rush. trying to pose her.

as for distraction, i think the limit of "over-processing" is a little different for every body. this is my style, and i like it. if you'd still like to emphasis on sharpness and exposures. well, you need to look at pop and icon etc, honestly, there're good stuffs there that trash these.

 

[mattlock]

I find this interesting a little more interesting.. but one similiarity i see is that both photos have some technical flaws (IMHO) that i feel distracts the viewers esp other photogs. Correct me if I am wrong but your picture is not in focus,... or rather it is front focusing on the chest area of the model. On one hand it makes the model's face blurry which give its a nice effect, on the other hand, I cannot help but wonder if this is a delibrate effort or simply user error. Personally, I will shoot the photo focused on the face and de-focus the whole picture in post production if that is the effect wanted. Now with the chest area in focus, I am again wondering why only that area is in focus... and hence is distracting me. Nevertheless, the subject is pretty interesting

Back to the OP's photos, I am distracted by the over-processing and the fact that the photos is not very well taken. He mentioned that he did make-up on the model, so this is not a "snap=shot" per say and hence a certain level of sharpness and exposure is expected because you have the luxury of prepping the photo. Right now, personally, the expression of the face is the only interesting part (not really that interesting to me though) of the whole picture. Everything else is just a distraction. Imagine if the picture was sharper, exposure better that the amount of post-processing is not so extreme to generate all these unnecessary artifiacts.

What i see is a photo that while might have a strong message to some, is simply compromised by other distraction in the photos. For some, the message itself might be enough, but IMHO, this is a posed shot and hence my view that this seems as though to be a random photo over processed to look provocative.

Let's get a few things out of the way first
What is a "technical flaw", and what is an "error"
What if the user decided to set certain parameters in which he allows "errors" to happen, and accepts these "errors" as part of the final product?

that attitude of having the picture sharp first and then blurring it in post-production is....ok....but it goes down to the person's philosophy. Many artists are interested in allowing "mistakes" to happen and accepting these "mistakes" as the final product becaues they deviate from what you normally expect,and can be beautiful.
I think if you leave it to post production you lose the spontaneity and randomness of chance.

Blurriness is not a technical fault, it's just another effect a person can use to convey a message. Our eyes don't see things pinpoint sharp, my eyesight is not perfect so technical nothing is in focus, and this is natural. and my eyes don't capture motion at 1/500th of a second so things blur with motion.

I think you might like to look at Sarah Moon's work and Paolo Reversi (the picture I attached in the earlier message is by Paolo Reversi)
What does it say when these two artists have a whole production team preparing their models in expensive clothing and the best hair and makeup, and then proceed to create photos that are not "sharp"?

 

[Stereobox]

you see it as a photo randomly pulled out and postprocessed to get an alternative look.

i see it as a re-interpretation of the original 'negative', a current reflection of her state of mind and being, and photographic sensibility.

the expression however, remains priceless.

Makes sense too, everyone is entitled to his of her opinion.

As for the expression, I really dont know what to make up of it.

thanks =) for the mutal respect of individual opinions!

as for distraction, i think the limit of "over-processing" is a little different for every body. this is my style, and i like it. if you'd still like to emphasis on sharpness and exposures. well, you need to look at pop and icon etc, honestly, there're good stuffs there that trash these.

perhaps that was an illustration of the photographic sensibility i was refering to.
OP is showing a picture which she felt works for now.

days later, weeks later, years later....she might go "what the F was i thinking??"
or she might like it even more. that's good, cos that will be the hallmark of a good picture for her.

if you can understand the usage of electric guitar distortion, feedback, alternate tunings and discordant harmonies in rock music as tools of expression, perhaps it would be clearer to understand that 'blurness' and "overprocessing" are similar tools to a photographer.

of course, different story altogether if the photographer uses that as an excuse for a cover-up in mistake hehehehe

and hey, what's so bad about mistakes and errors anyway? mistakes can be beautiful, too!
i've always believe me being born into this world was a mistake (lol, ok....that was lame. i love my parents =) )

 

[lycan]

Nice shot.......

mattlock.....good point.....not all shots need be in focus. Sometimes a bit off focus does add to the final product.

Something like Backstage.

But then i guess the processing colors and everything else are all a little different. Though this one is much more close to being backstage than the first one.

Taken a very long time ago..

Photo and makeup by me.

 

[kuoann]

The photo looks like death. A drowning victim or character from dawn of the dead.

 

[Tofu_man]

as somebody else said, very Devon Aoki. ... but not here in singapore unless you are prepared to put on a bathing suit and be oggled by a bunch of lecherous men..

I agree with the devon aoki bit. At first glance that was the first impression that struck me too.

:bsmilie: :bsmilie: well, somehow in SG, while carrying a dSLR/SLR and walking around shooting models, people assume you to be some kind of lecherous pervert anyway :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

 

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thanks =) for the mutal respect of individual opinions!



perhaps that was an illustration of the photographic sensibility i was refering to.
OP is showing a picture which she felt works for now.

days later, weeks later, years later....she might go "what the F was i thinking??"
or she might like it even more. that's good, cos that will be the hallmark of a good picture for her.

if you can understand the usage of electric guitar distortion, feedback, alternate tunings and discordant harmonies in rock music as tools of expression, perhaps it would be clearer to understand that 'blurness' and "overprocessing" are similar tools to a photographer.

of course, different story altogether if the photographer uses that as an excuse for a cover-up in mistake hehehehe

and hey, what's so bad about mistakes and errors anyway? mistakes can be beautiful, too!
i've always believe me being born into this world was a mistake (lol, ok....that was lame. i love my parents =) )

^^ thanks lycan, stereobox and mattlock.

i haven't seen or read up alot but i like sarah moon's works.

 

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The photo looks like death. A drowning victim or character from dawn of the dead.

is that a good, or bad thing? ...

 

[zemotion]

I agree with the devon aoki bit. At first glance that was the first impression that struck me too.

:bsmilie: :bsmilie: well, somehow in SG, while carrying a dSLR/SLR and walking around shooting models, people assume you to be some kind of lecherous pervert anyway :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

hahha but if you're girl it's ok~~!

 

[kuoann]

is that a good, or bad thing? ...

Good if she's trying to look like Wednesday Addams.

 

[ortega]

i like it! very goth

except for the shadow on the wall, could be better