Digital photography makes us lousier photographers, me included.
if you are referring to the think before you shoot thing for film...
with the right mentality, it applies for digital too.
Digital photography makes us lousier photographers, me included.
If we have a good DSLR with good lens and filters, why do we need post processing? Considering the huge money we have invested in DSLR and lens, is it worth to spend hours again in post processing to achieve the quality of photos like oil paintings? This is a question I always ask myself but I cannot find a good answer yet. :dunno:
In my opinion, post processing should be meant for point and shoot cameras with limited functions and capabilities. To achieve DSLR-like quality, certain post processing in Photoshop or Lightroom has to be done. What do you think? :think:
you can keep the horse photo but not with the sign. :nono:
if you are referring to the think before you shoot thing for film...
with the right mentality, it applies for digital too.
Digital photos are easier to manupulate and change, and with this mindset, most never take care about proper setting before shooting cause they can make changes during PP. For a causual photographer using film, and printing directly from it, there were less leeway to do this. Unfortunately, I only know DPP, so most of my photos look more like out-of-camera and therefore, less pleasing to most. That's why, I am also a lousier photographer.
let me stress once again, that just because more people are using digital today, and that more people are complaining about photoshop because more people are not good at it since more people are in photography, it doesn't mean that people didn't manipulate or edit photos in the darkroom in the yesteryear.
ansel adams did a lot of burn/dodge work for his landscapes.
don't for a single second think that the masters of yesterday shot out of camera. photoshop IS, after all, based on the darkroom.
If we have a good DSLR with good lens and filters, why do we need post processing?
Film without any darkroom manipulation, especially for colour film, looks realistic straight out of the (light-tight) box and contains enough detail and resolution for you to print dimensions far bigger than what the usual folk does.
But a digital photograph doesn't have that colour straight out of the camera. A JPEG usually lacks contrast. A RAW file, by its very definition, requires some PP to output JPEG. PP for digital then is often needed to achieve a certain look because quite simply, the camera doesn't deliver on it. It captures the image and stores the colour info, but that's it.
Film has its own characteristics. Velvia over-saturates blue and green, and has the highest dynamic range of any color film. Fuji 400H, when slightly overexposed, produces a pastel colour which some people like to use for weddings and portraiture. Kodachrome produces the most realistic colour out of any colour film.
All those mentioned above, in itself, is already "PP" in a sense. Digital doesn't have all that. So people PP for it.
Agreed, but there's a difference how one interprets "PP". In film, many choices, like type of film and processing are made before a shot is taken. So I consider them "Pre". Likewise, if one knows well enough of photography and one's digital cam, one can make most of such choices before hitting the shutter.
Never said that one could not manupulate film photos, but said that for a casual photographer using film, less leeway to do it in the days of just printing directly from film. I spent 50 years in film and sure knows how if I want to but unlike the ease of today's technology with just a PC and software. Therefore, there is this tendancy of more reliance on PP.
this is a very debatable argument -
i would attribute the proliferation of photographers editing their photos with photoshop as a sign of increasing affluence AND technology reducing cost. this of course, includes factors such as the fact that photoshop is probably a lot more pirate-able than a bona fide darkroom with darkroom equipment.
if no one ever came up with a dslr, i think it's arguable that mass production methods, and modern technology could come up with a way to make darkroom techniques much more accessible, portable and implementable within the home today. for example, there might be cheaper alternative china brands, just like how ink cartridges have third party companies producing them nowadays to reduce cost.. in the past such was relatively unseen.
but that's an alternative scenario that we can never really see.. it is counterfactual. thus we will never know.
so im wondering is there any easier,simpler PP programs to help beginners liked many of us, who just joined the community to edit our photos? probably not as advance as PS, but something simpler and easier
Have a look here: http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=63so im wondering is there any easier,simpler PP programs to help beginners liked many of us, who just joined the community to edit our photos? probably not as advance as PS, but something simpler and easier