What do you think about the K7 (as a Sony DSLR user)

[Ouverture]

500D

A700

 

[eow]

This must be a very bitter shoot out for yr friend....
what his and yr sharpness setting?
only jpeg?
any dro used?

 

[Ouverture]

This must be a very bitter shoot out for yr friend....
what his and yr sharpness setting?
only jpeg?
any dro used?

Yes, it was, especially with his L lens...

All jpegs (fine) only, +2 sharpness, +2 saturation, DR standard for both cameras.

Initially we thought it was the "photographer" problem, however, even we switched and got similar results too...

 

[Ouverture]

However, as I said earlier, I am not try to be boastful about how good A700 is. Probably maybe the JPEG processing is better. If raw, then maybe it will be different results.

 

[lenrek]

Wow... He was using a L lens and you were using a DT lens?! If I am your friend, see this kind of result, I vomit blood liao lor...

I really like the color produce by A700.

(Mental note to self: "NOT GOING TO BE POISONED BY THIS THREAD TO BUY A700")

 

[Ouverture]

Wow... He was using a L lens and you were using a DT lens?! If I am your friend, see this kind of result, I vomit blood liao lor...

I really like the color produce by A700.

(Mental note to self: "NOT GOING TO BE POISONED BY THIS THREAD TO BUY A700")

Yes, he was quite disappointed...

BTW, he was ex-5D user and sold off almost all his Minolta lenses recently to go into L....now he thinking of coming back....

 

[Rashkae]

Sorry, just to clarify. I think the people in the philippine Pentax assembly plant jobs are safe.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/ce...20090430-202378/Most_firms_re-hiring_workers_

Quote from article from Cebu Daily News, Pentax Cebu Philippines Corp. is hiring and rehiring 277 workers.

Ah, good news then.

 

[lenrek]

...
BTW, he was ex-5D user and sold off almost all his Minolta lenses recently to go into L....

That is even more painful... I can feel his pain... :cry:

 

[boombox]

Well, the a700 pics are sharper, a tad brighter and warmer, the 500D photos are a bit darker, well, not as crisp looking, and definitely cooler in tone.

It's not a big difference to me, but have to bear in mind that the processing engine of a mid range model is still better than a entry level mode, and a700's focusing sensors are one of the most precise ones out there on the market, so it's not too fair a comparison... :angel:

 

[Ouverture]

Well, the a700 pics are sharper, a tad brighter and warmer, the 500D photos are a bit darker, well, not as crisp looking, and definitely cooler in tone.

It's not a big difference to me, but have to bear in mind that the processing engine of a mid range model is still better than a entry level mode, and a700's focusing sensors are one of the most precise ones out there on the market, so it's not too fair a comparison... :angel:

Yes I agreed it's not really a fair comparison.

However I seen people saying a cam with good lens can beat a good cam with normal lens....so for this case does not seem so...

 

[eow]

Actually the 18-250 is quite a sharp lens also.
it might not be fair to yr friend L lens
btw...what is L lens?

 

[Ouverture]

Actually the 18-250 is quite a sharp lens also.
it might not be fair to yr friend L lens
btw...what is L lens?

24-70 F2.8 L, supposedly the cream of the crop among the Ls...

and equivalent to CZ2470...

 

[Rashkae]

24-70 F2.8 L, supposedly the cream of the crop among the Ls...

and equivalent to CZ2470...

Not by far. The Canon 24-70 is actually quite soft. It's a faaaaaaar cry from the Nikkor and Sony CZ 24-70.

 

[Ouverture]

Not by far. The Canon 24-70 is actually quite soft. It's a faaaaaaar cry from the Nikkor and Sony CZ 24-70.

Then probably sums up why A700 images are sharper...

So we can conclude a $800 DT lens can beat a $2+k L lens now...

 

[Ouverture]

BTW, I hope this thread is not closed by my unfair comparison though...

 

[eow]

Then probably sums up why A700 images are sharper...

So we can conclude a $800 DT lens can beat a $2+k L lens now...

All is not lost..
tell yr friend to send in to csc for servicing and calibration.
it could either the lens or the body is out
then meet for a shoot out again..if by 2nd time still lose out.
Then only it worth considering to change or to stay.

 

[Ouverture]

All is not lost..
tell yr friend to send in to csc for servicing and calibration.
it could either the lens or the body is out
then meet for a shoot out again..if by 2nd time still lose out.
Then only it worth considering to change or to stay.

Yes, probably this is the best and only way out now.

Thanks.

 

[le petit prince]

It produces very noisy pics...Review here:

http://www.eprice.com.tw/dc/talk/?prod_id=460&tid=2642

Mmm. Have a look.. if you still feel it's too noisy, ok..
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527416&page=9

My concern is also Pentax's long-term viability. Even the people in the Philippine Pentax assembly plant are concerned about their jobs already. Sales are too low to be profitable. It may only be a matter of time before Hoya pulls the plug. If they're lucky, Samsung will buy them over.

Think niche.

Of course, only time will tell if this strategy works -- focus on primes, weathersealed, tough & rugged outdoors/adventure/trekking bodies/lenses. Oh, compact too.

The K-7 is more akin to Nikon's D300 and Canon's 50D, the mid-range models. The specs say it all.

As for pentax, a renowed photog had commented that in order to have featured laden/packed the K7D...(no offence)they must be very desperate in order to do that.

Erm, renowned photographers are renowned for their good photos I hope, not for their knowledge of the business of the photographic equipment market itself. :bsmilie:

I don't think it's out of desperation; the K-7 is Pentax's current flagship.

Look at all brands' flagships - chokeful of their best features and technologies.. so no surprise Pentax's as well.

 

[lenrek]

...
btw...what is L lens?

By right, L lens series suppose to be best lens series of C.

L Lens Series Information

Similar to G or CZ series for Sony.

 

[boombox]

24-70 F2.8 L, supposedly the cream of the crop among the Ls...

and equivalent to CZ2470...

Well, of the 24-70 f2.8 lenses out there, the Canon's copy is the oldest design amongst the bunch (and to some of my C friends, is quite overdue for an updated copy, hopefully with IS built in), so therefore I don't expect it to be sharper than the newer designs. :sweatsm:

Actually, if you notice, for modern lens designs, the resolution numbers are really going up, so in terms of resolution, new but cheap lenses can perform better than older premium lenses.